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Botman wrote:
Finchy wrote: March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well

You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.

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gerg wrote: March 28, 2024, 9:29 pm
Botman wrote:
Finchy wrote: March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well

You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.

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Both very limited in ball playing. I actually think Schneider is a better defender, Fog a better kicker, at least in length and height. W'ere probably quibbling over 5-6/10 halfbacks that can pull out 8-9/10 games on occasion.
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Schneider is a better defender
I’ll give him that and stylistically they are similar players in that there is little creative ball playing on offer

But I think Fog is a significantly better player right now. He’s also much older and has much more experience.
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I’ve been Fogarty’s harshest critic but he’s miles ahead of Brad Schneider. I mean come on.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I’m just disappointed this guy was on the books for as long as he was but it took one game for the Panthers to be referred to as Schneider-Man


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Fogarty is a better player overall. Their biggest weakness is a lack of creativity. That is what limits them ever getting to an elite level.

I don’t think their defence or kicking is a worry, both solid in that regard.
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julian87 wrote:I’ve been Fogarty’s harshest critic but he’s miles ahead of Brad Schneider. I mean come on.
I wasn't suggesting that Schneider was a better player. Just throwing the question out there 'how much better' and I think suggesting Fogarty is miles better is a little off the mark. When was his last line break assist, or try assist (not from a kick)?

He is a better player but not by that much. I think one of the only differences is he has been afforded more of an opportunity in the NRL than Schneider. If they'd played the exact same amount of games they almost be identical or maybe even Schneider takes it on points.

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Botman wrote:He's not had a lot of joy on the stat sheet but i think Luai has been very good for the panthers tonight
He's an unlikable character and im not sold he's the sort of player that can drag the tigers out of their **** show but i am sold of this... dude can play and people who think he cant are too far in their feelings.
Hahaha I love people who say he’s overrated and nothing without Cleary… whenever Cleary has been out over the last five years, Luai just takes the reins and they don’t miss a beat.

He continually puts rubbish criticism like that to bed.
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The Nickman wrote:
Botman wrote:He's not had a lot of joy on the stat sheet but i think Luai has been very good for the panthers tonight
He's an unlikable character and im not sold he's the sort of player that can drag the tigers out of their **** show but i am sold of this... dude can play and people who think he cant are too far in their feelings.
Hahaha I love people who say he’s overrated and nothing without Cleary… whenever Cleary has been out over the last five years, Luai just takes the reins and they don’t miss a beat.

He continually puts rubbish criticism like that to bed.
Yeah, think he has won 16 out of 18 when Cleary has been out (according to Phil Gould).


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Tigers with a spine of;

1-Bula
6-Luai
7- Sezer
9- Koroisau
13- Galvin

Should push a few more sides than they currently do.


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Galvin won’t be playing 13.
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NRL’s shock admission after Bunker’s inconsistency robs Roosters

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrls- ... 1bcb8e9d73

Annesley being a dunce.
some idiot who should know better wrote: “I talked about the need for the lead runner to continue through the defensive line, and for the play not to be turned back through the gap created by a collision with a defender.

“Neither of these factors were present in last night’s decision (for the Manu no-try).

“In the circumstances, the Bunker does have discretion to consider whether a defender could have prevented the try.
As others have already pointed out. You need to not just consider if that defender can get there, but also the flow on impact to other defenders and attackers.

This just makes the rule more grey, and means more favourable to teams who get the refereeing biases.

It’s garbage. If you want to run a decoy/block play and don’t want to lose your try? Don’t stop in the freaking defensive line!!

So frustrating.
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Here we go again.

Annesley making all these contortions over a decision that just further adds confusion and increases to the lack of consistency by decision makers, especially the Bunker.

It certainly wasn’t as clear cut like last week, but JWH ran a long way through the line and then collided with the fullback coming across field. JWH as a decoy needs to be more aware of his surroundings and do a better job trying to avoid getting in the way.
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Bulldogs out enthusing Souths, but behind on the scoreboard. Wonder if the bulldogs can keep it up
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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It appears not. Souths on fire now.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Jack Wighton scores about his 30th career try with that exact same play.

Get the ball about 15 metres out and burst through for the try.
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Bit confused about how I feel about Jack tbh. Don’t hate him or wish ill will on him the way I did Dugan for example.

But certainly don’t love him either or wish him particularly good fortune in his Bunnies venture.
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Geez Connor Tracey has had a diabolical last 5 minutes.
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Burton not having a good one.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Pet hate is when a fullback does all the hard work getting into position, makes a good call and sees a ball go dead, picks it up and sprints 30m to the 20m line only for lazy forwards not getting themselves back behind the 20.

As a result the 30m sprint was for nothing, the defence is rested and set and a 7 tackle set is wasted.


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And of course, he scores a try now. Nice work by the Bulldogs
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Dramatic end to the half. Addo-Carr unlikely to come back in the second half.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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How did Tass not go to the bin

Dogs have fought back into this. Have looked the better team .
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LimeGreenMachine wrote:How did Tass not go to the bin

Dogs have fought back into this. Have looked the better team .
Mitchell also lucky not to go to the bin.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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reptar wrote: March 29, 2024, 3:56 pm
LimeGreenMachine wrote:How did Tass not go to the bin

Dogs have fought back into this. Have looked the better team .
Mitchell also lucky not to go to the bin.

MRC will need to look at that one.
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Ado Carr ruled to be Cat 1 . Wont return
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Yeah, he was knocked out cold for a minute or two. Stupid of those players trying to pick him up.
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John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Teams are back out. This could be a wild second half
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Finchy wrote: March 28, 2024, 9:46 pm
gerg wrote: March 28, 2024, 9:29 pm
Botman wrote:
Finchy wrote: March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well

You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.

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Both very limited in ball playing. I actually think Schneider is a better defender, Fog a better kicker, at least in length and height. W'ere probably quibbling over 5-6/10 halfbacks that can pull out 8-9/10 games on occasion.
Agreed,inkee.

Schneider defends better, Fogarty kicks better.

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The Weak Gutted Dog not having a bad game.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: March 29, 2024, 3:24 pm Bit confused about how I feel about Jack tbh. Don’t hate him or wish ill will on him the way I did Dugan for example.

But certainly don’t love him either or wish him particularly good fortune in his Bunnies venture.
Same.
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Another try for Wighton. Be interesting to see if the Rabbitohs can keep it up for more than 5 minutes.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Another HIA.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Crichton gets a lot of love from the media.

Just then, he and Tracey looked average
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Bulldogs more enthusiastic but they keep letting the Rabbits bust through. Tighten up the defence Doggies!
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