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That court ruling effectively upended the 1215 Magna Carta and the principle that the king and his government is not above the law.

Just outrageous.

And how about the irony of the conservative gun loving folk needing their guns to protect them from the rogue rulings of the conservative judges of the Supreme Court.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: July 9, 2024, 3:46 pm That court ruling effectively upended the 1215 Magna Carta and the principle that the king and his government is not above the law.

Just outrageous.

And how about the irony of the conservative gun loving folk needing their guns to protect them from the rogue rulings of the conservative judges of the Supreme Court.
Ironic indeed! Doubt they'll need them for that reason though... To paraphrase the GOAT, Democrats buy guns too 🙃
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Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
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Botman wrote: July 9, 2024, 9:14 pm

Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
Looks like a job for Just Stop Oil
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Botman wrote:

Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
What do they all have in common?
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Botman wrote:

Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
Yes.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.
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gangrenous wrote: July 10, 2024, 7:10 am
Botman wrote:

Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
Yes.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.
What a rediculous report.

Just goes to show that any agenda can be sold if you manipulate the numbers to “prove” that what you are saying is true and correct in the real world.

Bit like the whole Climate Change fantasy .🤦‍♂️
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samvucago wrote: July 10, 2024, 11:18 am
gangrenous wrote: July 10, 2024, 7:10 am
Botman wrote:

Curious as to what people think about this... too early to blame the sitting government?
Yes.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.
What a rediculous report.

Just goes to show that any agenda can be sold if you manipulate the numbers to “prove” that what you are saying is true and correct in the real world.

Bit like the whole Climate Change fantasy .🤦‍♂️
In this day and age you're "guilty until proven innocent" - playin that numbers game well beyond extra time.
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Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
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Dr Zaius wrote: July 11, 2024, 7:16 pm Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
The whole system needs a Ctrl+Alt+Del when George Clooney has influence on matters that either directly or indirectly affects literally millions or even billions of peoples lives. All they need is the tent cause they definitely have the Circus 🤡
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George Clooney advising on us on an election between the reanimated corpse of the former vice president and a buffonish reality TV star with a messiah complex.

Yep, odd times.

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Dr Zaius wrote:Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
I’ve been watching these markets every day for months now and they fluctuate wildly. A couple days ago Harris was in front of Biden as the Dem candidate and then it flipped again. I think it shows that Sportsbet genuinely has no idea.

I still think there’s absolutely zero chance Biden contests the next election, despite the fact he obviously still thinks he will be. I just see absolutely no chance the Dems don’t push him off the cliff if he’s not prepared to go gracefully, I just cannot see a reality where he goes again, the guy can barely speak.

Do with that what you will.
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Why wouldn't you keep him as the fall guy?

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The Nickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
I’ve been watching these markets every day for months now and they fluctuate wildly. A couple days ago Harris was in front of Biden as the Dem candidate and then it flipped again. I think it shows that Sportsbet genuinely has no idea.

I still think there’s absolutely zero chance Biden contests the next election, despite the fact he obviously still thinks he will be. I just see absolutely no chance the Dems don’t push him off the cliff if he’s not prepared to go gracefully, I just cannot see a reality where he goes again, the guy can barely speak.

Do with that what you will.
Agreed. The discontent is getting louder. It's only a matter of time. The drums are beating. He needs to step aside to preserve his legacy.
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The Nickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
I’ve been watching these markets every day for months now and they fluctuate wildly. A couple days ago Harris was in front of Biden as the Dem candidate and then it flipped again. I think it shows that Sportsbet genuinely has no idea.

I still think there’s absolutely zero chance Biden contests the next election, despite the fact he obviously still thinks he will be. I just see absolutely no chance the Dems don’t push him off the cliff if he’s not prepared to go gracefully, I just cannot see a reality where he goes again, the guy can barely speak.

Do with that what you will.
What is the deadline (no pun intended) for deciding the Dems nomination?

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gerg wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
I’ve been watching these markets every day for months now and they fluctuate wildly. A couple days ago Harris was in front of Biden as the Dem candidate and then it flipped again. I think it shows that Sportsbet genuinely has no idea.

I still think there’s absolutely zero chance Biden contests the next election, despite the fact he obviously still thinks he will be. I just see absolutely no chance the Dems don’t push him off the cliff if he’s not prepared to go gracefully, I just cannot see a reality where he goes again, the guy can barely speak.

Do with that what you will.
What is the deadline (no pun intended) for deciding the Dems nomination?

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The nominee is formalised at the Democratic National Convention from the 19th to 22nd of August
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Dr Zaius wrote:
gerg wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Interesting movement in the US Presidential Election market on Sportsbet.

Kamala Harris ($6) has come in ahead of Biden ($7.50) to win the presidency. Biden ($2) slightly ahead of Harris ($2.50) to win the Democratic nomination.

Pressure growing on Biden with George Clooney tightening the screws.
I’ve been watching these markets every day for months now and they fluctuate wildly. A couple days ago Harris was in front of Biden as the Dem candidate and then it flipped again. I think it shows that Sportsbet genuinely has no idea.

I still think there’s absolutely zero chance Biden contests the next election, despite the fact he obviously still thinks he will be. I just see absolutely no chance the Dems don’t push him off the cliff if he’s not prepared to go gracefully, I just cannot see a reality where he goes again, the guy can barely speak.

Do with that what you will.
What is the deadline (no pun intended) for deciding the Dems nomination?

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The nominee is formalised at the Democratic National Convention from the 19th to 22nd of August
Another month of this **** and then three more before the election. US politics is just the worst.

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I said last week to a mate that I didn’t think Biden would last the end of this week and I still think that’s the slightest of chances
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I don’t know, seems there’s some hefty motivations for his party to keep him if he won’t step down voluntarily, which doesn’t seem to be about to happen…
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There's some pretty huge motivations for them to throw him into the ocean too, particularly a) losing the election and 2) the amount of campaign funding that's being withdrawn if he stays on.

He might not go today, but he won't make the election.
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Biden just introduced Zelensky as President Putin at the NATO summit.

Wheel him off for his supper and bedtime.

It is over.
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I mean, in just over half an hour Biden's going to give a solo press conference that if he completely flubs, which he almost certainly will, he'll almost certainly be even more cooked than he already is.

Also, at the NATO summit earlier today, Biden accidentally introduced Volodymyr Zelenskiy as President Putin... whoopsie!

EDIT: Ahhhh ****itall, Mickey beat me to it haha
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The Biden press conference has been pushed back half an hour and it's the second time it's been pushed back today... he's genuinely cooked.
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Biden press conference starting soon, I recommend anybody interested in the upcoming American election in any way, shape or form to watch it.
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surely the delay sees him hand off the running

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Kamala Harris is currently at the shortest odds she's been to be the Democratic Nominee, she's currently at $1.83.

Was at $2.00 when I woke up at 5am.

I reckon him calling Zelenskiy Putin is the final straw. He's done, absolutely cooked.
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The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
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Mr Squiggle wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:08 am The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
A new candidate will certainly be able to defeat Donald Trump, who is the textbook definition of "toxic".
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The Nickman wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:13 am
Mr Squiggle wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:08 am The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
A new candidate will certainly be able to defeat Donald Trump, who is the textbook definition of "toxic".
Agreed, it is pretty telling that even after the last few nuclear meltdown level weeks from Biden he is still neck and neck with Trump in polling.

In the most recent poll over 55% of people who said they would vote Biden think he should step aside. That’s wild.

I think the only hold up to the changeover is confirming polling as to how Harris would fare against Trump.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:25 am
The Nickman wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:13 am
Mr Squiggle wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:08 am The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
A new candidate will certainly be able to defeat Donald Trump, who is the textbook definition of "toxic".
Agreed, it is pretty telling that even after the last few nuclear meltdown level weeks from Biden he is still neck and neck with Trump in polling.

In the most recent poll over 55% of people who said they would vote Biden think he should step aside. That’s wild.

I think the only hold up to the changeover is confirming polling as to how Harris would fare against Trump.
Harris will do better than Biden, and she stands a very good chance at beating Trump if they get her messaging right, but the Democrats really should run with someone like Gavin Newsom and put Trump down once and for all.
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He's on!!
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The Nickman wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:13 am
Mr Squiggle wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:08 am The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
A new candidate will certainly be able to defeat Donald Trump, who is the textbook definition of "toxic".
'Certainly' without even knowing who it is?

Nobody beats Trump but Trump at this point.
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Mr Squiggle wrote: July 12, 2024, 9:08 am The Democratic brand is toxic. A new candidate won't change that.
Caught up in identity politics and trump/republican hating. I don't think they even know what their brand is.
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I said "certainly be able to", not "certainly would". There's a huge difference in the context between those two statements.

And Trump has already laid enough of a platform to "defeat himself". If anyone even remotely half-competent takes him to task on abortion, January 6th, the Ukraine war, his contempt for NATO and Project 2025, he'll be absolutely sunk.
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Biden's not stepping down. He's campaigning, in Orange face. Slurring his speech like a punchy ex-fighter.
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