Canberra Raiders star Jamal Fogarty set to test open market
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Canberra Raiders star Jamal Fogarty set to test open market
Canberra Raiders star Jamal Fogarty set to test open market
Half Jamal Fogarty, 29, is off-contract next season and while the Raiders are keen to extend Fogarty for a further 12 months in 2025, it is understood the Canberra No.7 is keen to test his value as a free agent before making a final call.
“There’s no issue with Canberra. He rates Ricky as a coach. He is settled and enjoying his time at the Raiders, so if they tabled the right deal, he will certainly consider it, but we’ll explore all our options and see where it lands,” manager Tas Bartlett said.
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Half Jamal Fogarty, 29, is off-contract next season and while the Raiders are keen to extend Fogarty for a further 12 months in 2025, it is understood the Canberra No.7 is keen to test his value as a free agent before making a final call.
“There’s no issue with Canberra. He rates Ricky as a coach. He is settled and enjoying his time at the Raiders, so if they tabled the right deal, he will certainly consider it, but we’ll explore all our options and see where it lands,” manager Tas Bartlett said.
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jamal Fogarty set to test open market
The club is right to be looking at a 12 month extension only imo
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Agree, he's solid, been our best spine player this year but I reckon you need to upgrade Fogarty to win be a really top tier side.
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And we’ve already signed his successor. So we really only need fog for as long as it takes for the colonel to be readykiwi raider wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 10:09 am Agree, he's solid, been our best spine player this year but I reckon you need to upgrade Fogarty to win be a really top tier side.
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I agree 12 months is the best option. He’s been very good at his best this year, but he’s not been consistent. With Ethan Sanders on the horizon, it’s best to plan for transition at some stage.
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Yep, 12 months makes sense and would be a nice change from the trend of two+ year deals for everyone. If he decides to walk and Sanders isn't ready I am sure they can pick up a decent fill in that's close to his level.
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12 months would suit us, but not ideal at all for him at age 29.
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jamal Fogarty set to test open market
Two years is probably fine for him as well at the right money. I would assume Sanders is going to be on low dollars if he does end up starting halfback so you could have a slightly over priced back up in Fogarty for a year. I mean it makes more sense than signing Levi for two more.
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Yep and I think as a club we need to
A. Acknowledge and accept that whilst 12 months is best for us, as you say, at his age it might not suit him and he might walk to seek greater levels of job/financial security
B. Be ok with that and not panic and give him extra years to keep him in the building. Set our offer down, that suits us and if he takes it great, and if it doesn’t work him… we have to stay firm and say “thanks for your time and efforts and best of luck to you in the future”
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Two years is the easy option for the club, so it's good to see them not going that path. Nobody would question it, but then you think about what the point would be to having a journeyman half in a young squad in 2026 earning $500,000? Differrent story if he was earning around the $300,000 mark, but he's re-signing as a starting half so no way he'd come at that price.
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2 years, get it done.
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The trend for every other signing has been the Raiders to needlessly bump and or extend players with worse performance than Fog. I'd prefer we hold the line but don't expect us to.
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makes sense with Sanders coming, I'd really like to see Fog test himself at 9 I think he could extend his career as a quality 14
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Im surprised by this 12 month talk. I think Fog us a decent half back. Sezer got us to a gf, so can Fog.
Also, I didn't think we are that sorta club. Noone here is stupid, at Fog's age a 1 year extension isn't ideal. Where to from there? We play players every week that would barely make the Bulldogs starting squad.
Having said all that, I dont have all the details and plans. Do we have someone else coming in at 7?
Also, I didn't think we are that sorta club. Noone here is stupid, at Fog's age a 1 year extension isn't ideal. Where to from there? We play players every week that would barely make the Bulldogs starting squad.
Having said all that, I dont have all the details and plans. Do we have someone else coming in at 7?
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Yep. We've got Strange and Sanders coming thru, and will make a bid for Mam.
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I think the Dogs will be interested in him, and maybe the Tigers.
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We cant block the path of Sanders. This is the right move for the club and backs up the direction of the club is focusing on
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Really depends on whether we get Sanders for 2024. If so, then yes a 1 year extension is all we should be offering.
If the eels hold onto him, then I can see value in extending him for 2 years. Makes Sanders fight for the position, allows Sanders to learn from Fog and provides coverage for the inevitable rollercoaster of form from Sanders as he learns his trade.
If the eels hold onto him, then I can see value in extending him for 2 years. Makes Sanders fight for the position, allows Sanders to learn from Fog and provides coverage for the inevitable rollercoaster of form from Sanders as he learns his trade.
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Surely Sanders gets released for 24 if he signs formally in November. It would be bizarre for the Eels to keep him around.
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For 2025 we have Strange locked in and presumably Sanders coming. I don't see how we'd be able to keep all of Sanders, Strange, Fog and Mam in 2025. Would think 1 of Fog and Mam (or equivalent new signing) won't be there in 2025
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1 year to help Sanders and Strange along in the halves. Makes sense.
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Raiders is the right home for Fog. We are not a half back centric team so he gets away with a lot of deficiencies that other clubs won't tolerate, like lack of running and passing game. He suits Canberra and fits into our system cos we just need decent kicking, defence and game management, which he does to a reasonable degree.
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Him testing the market would be the best thing for all involved because we’d probably be able to extend him for half of what he’s on now.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I agree denissnowy there is no saying that Sanders will be an instant hit in FG. All of the signs are good, but you never know and the physicality of FG is another thing he will have to adapt to. I reckon the Club will have to make a decision on Frawls or Fog at some point over the next 2 years. Should a player be injured or lose form then an experienced halves player is great for the squad. There are some other fine halves also coming through in Junior Reps. I would offer Fog a two year deal. He is a level head in the squad and that is a good thing for a Club losing a lot of experience over the next couple of years.denissnowy wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 12:05 pm Really depends on whether we get Sanders for 2024. If so, then yes a 1 year extension is all we should be offering.
If the eels hold onto him, then I can see value in extending him for 2 years. Makes Sanders fight for the position, allows Sanders to learn from Fog and provides coverage for the inevitable rollercoaster of form from Sanders as he learns his trade.
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Your death riding of the bloke is well and truly noted.
With Croker Whitehead Wighton all moving on there’s a vacuum of experience and leadership in 24 and beyond.Considering how much importance Stick places in those attributes I’d say he’ll get two years at the same if not more coin than he’s on now.
And be made captain in 24.
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Keep Fogarty as a reserve grade half in 26 for $500k for a role typically done at more like the $250k level and you can't complain when we lose a talented junior over a $200k.RedRaider wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 1:14 pmI agree denissnowy there is no saying that Sanders will be an instant hit in FG. All of the signs are good, but you never know and the physicality of FG is another thing he will have to adapt to. I reckon the Club will have to make a decision on Frawls or Fog at some point over the next 2 years. Should a player be injured or lose form then an experienced halves player is great for the squad. There are some other fine halves also coming through in Junior Reps. I would offer Fog a two year deal. He is a level head in the squad and that is a good thing for a Club losing a lot of experience over the next couple of years.denissnowy wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 12:05 pm Really depends on whether we get Sanders for 2024. If so, then yes a 1 year extension is all we should be offering.
If the eels hold onto him, then I can see value in extending him for 2 years. Makes Sanders fight for the position, allows Sanders to learn from Fog and provides coverage for the inevitable rollercoaster of form from Sanders as he learns his trade.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at the dolphins
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He would do well at the dolphins.
Have no drama if Fog got good money anywhere and left. I think he has been an astute buy from us and played relatively well. His kicking is superb, but if he develops a killer last play option and ups his try assists (not from his boot), he would be an elite halfback in the game.
Have no drama if Fog got good money anywhere and left. I think he has been an astute buy from us and played relatively well. His kicking is superb, but if he develops a killer last play option and ups his try assists (not from his boot), he would be an elite halfback in the game.
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I agree
Sanders would not be their primary half or even their back up next year, he’d be at best 4th choice
So there is no need for them, he’s lost to their system and investing more time into that player doesn’t make sense
Add In motivation for our club and the player to get here asap, and I just can’t fathom how he’s not here in 2024 unless the eels want to dig their heels in and get vindictive
Which would hurt them more than the kid in terms of their relationships with other talented kids
may need to do some minor player swap (HSS may be?) to get the deal done but my bet is he’s here in 2024
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Exactly what the club thinksPNGRaider37 wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 12:50 pm 1 year to help Sanders and Strange along in the halves. Makes sense.
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To replace Milford?
I'm not sure. I think he wants to capitalise on the halves shortage and earn a big contract.
He is a decent half. Just not elite
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2023 Raiders struggled in the halves. In 2024 Wighton is gone, Schneider is gone, Frawley looks gone and we are happy to let out best half Fog walk? We have a couple of kids coming through in a few years. If we sign Ezra man - sure let Fog walk but otherwise I suspect Fog is getting a good deal out of this.
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He had a really good game last night. Much better than some of his recent performances. His defence was superb. His attack was pretty good. We play well when he’s in that form.
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Completely agree Regs!
The number of times a Bronco was cut down only to see Fogarty at the feet was impressive
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I would keep him for another 2 years RK. Neither Sanders nor Strange will be on this type of money to begin with. If Fog goes and Frawley also goes like Schneider, then we are a single halves injury away from needing a inexperienced NSW Cup level player in FG. Fog is not a rep level half but we knew that when he came here. But he is a level head and can help bring the youngsters through unless you believe Simi Sasagi in the answer. I would keep the experienced Fogarty.Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 1:54 pmKeep Fogarty as a reserve grade half in 26 for $500k for a role typically done at more like the $250k level and you can't complain when we lose a talented junior over a $200k.RedRaider wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 1:14 pmI agree denissnowy there is no saying that Sanders will be an instant hit in FG. All of the signs are good, but you never know and the physicality of FG is another thing he will have to adapt to. I reckon the Club will have to make a decision on Frawls or Fog at some point over the next 2 years. Should a player be injured or lose form then an experienced halves player is great for the squad. There are some other fine halves also coming through in Junior Reps. I would offer Fog a two year deal. He is a level head in the squad and that is a good thing for a Club losing a lot of experience over the next couple of years.denissnowy wrote: ↑August 26, 2023, 12:05 pm Really depends on whether we get Sanders for 2024. If so, then yes a 1 year extension is all we should be offering.
If the eels hold onto him, then I can see value in extending him for 2 years. Makes Sanders fight for the position, allows Sanders to learn from Fog and provides coverage for the inevitable rollercoaster of form from Sanders as he learns his trade.
Can't keep em all.