2022 Rd 20 V Titans: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Raiders 13+
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Raiders 1-12
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greeneyed wrote: July 26, 2022, 8:42 pm
Ultima wrote: July 26, 2022, 8:33 pm Absolutely crazy that Whitehead is still there... Also surprised Hopoate is there over Schiller. Hopate did good, but Schiller was exceptional the week before and is apparently healed up.

Anyone else worried that Valemei was put in the reserves suddenly? He hasn't been in there recently.... I guess maybe that shows Schiller isn't healed up enough?
Schiller not selected in any team, Valemei selected in NSW Cup. Suggests Valemei won’t go to the Gold Coast.

Apparently Horsburgh lost so much weight during his illness, he still hasn’t recovered.
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hrundi89 wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Butters wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:29 am
greeneyed wrote: July 26, 2022, 8:42 pm
Ultima wrote: July 26, 2022, 8:33 pm Absolutely crazy that Whitehead is still there... Also surprised Hopoate is there over Schiller. Hopate did good, but Schiller was exceptional the week before and is apparently healed up.

Anyone else worried that Valemei was put in the reserves suddenly? He hasn't been in there recently.... I guess maybe that shows Schiller isn't healed up enough?
Schiller not selected in any team, Valemei selected in NSW Cup. Suggests Valemei won’t go to the Gold Coast.

Apparently Horsburgh lost so much weight during his illness, he still hasn’t recovered.
Did Horse eat a bad sausage again or def COVID this time?
The club has not said. It was reported early on he had not tested positive to COVID. But I guess it’s possible to later test positive.
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I don't approve of women in league round, it's against my religion

Therefore I'm boycotting the whole round and anyone who questions my stance is persecuting me for my religion.
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The Nickman wrote:I don't approve of women in league round, it's against my religion

Therefore I'm boycotting the whole round and anyone who questions my stance is persecuting me for my religion.
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The Nickman wrote:I don't approve of women in league round, it's against my religion

Therefore I'm boycotting the whole round and anyone who questions my stance is persecuting me for my religion.
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Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:35 am
hrundi89 wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Savage just isn't it I'm afraid...I'd like to see him play wing before I punt him though
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Tigers carrying on....Raiders had 2 very similar calls which could have cosy us both games. Proud of the way the club handled it.
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Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 12:36 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:35 am
hrundi89 wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Savage just isn't it I'm afraid...I'd like to see him play wing before I punt him though
Savage is a 20 year old with less than 15 NRL games under his belt... very early to be making those calls imo
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I, like many others, argued that the coach should bring in the young player with huge potential and giving him a decent shot in first grade. It is what the club now has to do, and do more of. Credit to the coach in my view.
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greeneyed wrote: July 27, 2022, 12:57 pm I, like many others, argued that the coach should bring in the young player with huge potential and giving him a decent shot in first grade. It is what the club now has to do, and do more of. Credit to the coach in my view.
Credit to you I say. He's obviously listened to you, Ferg.
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bonehead wrote:
The Nickman wrote:I don't approve of women in league round, it's against my religion

Therefore I'm boycotting the whole round and anyone who questions my stance is persecuting me for my religion.
#I'llsitwithnick




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Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
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Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:48 pm Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
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The Nickman wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:59 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:48 pm Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
Well that's the hottest of hot takes
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Raiders_Pat wrote: July 27, 2022, 12:46 pm


Savage is a 20 year old with less than 15 NRL games under his belt... very early to be making those calls imo
Exactly. He's already improved our attack and can do things no one else on our team can do.

Coming in cold from an absence of lower grades due to covid for 18 months he's doing well and learning every game. I think he's going to be really, really good. And he's the best FB we have right now.
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Raiders666 wrote:
The Nickman wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:59 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:48 pm Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
Well that's the hottest of hot takes
Thanks
It wasn't a compliment.

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Raider Azz wrote: July 27, 2022, 3:29 pm
Raiders666 wrote:
The Nickman wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:59 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:48 pm Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
Well that's the hottest of hot takes
Thanks
It wasn't a compliment.

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Thanks...I don't rate our fullback..Hope that's OK with you
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Raiders666 wrote:
Raider Azz wrote: July 27, 2022, 3:29 pm
Raiders666 wrote:
The Nickman wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:59 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:48 pm Savage is about half as good as Matt Dufty lol
Well that's the hottest of hot takes
Thanks
It wasn't a compliment.

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Thanks...I don't rate our fullback..Hope that's OK with you
No skin off my back, it just makes you look like an idiot

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Raider Azz wrote: July 27, 2022, 4:37 pm
Raiders666 wrote:
Raider Azz wrote: July 27, 2022, 3:29 pm
Raiders666 wrote:
The Nickman wrote: July 27, 2022, 2:59 pm
Well that's the hottest of hot takes
Thanks
It wasn't a compliment.

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Thanks...I don't rate our fullback..Hope that's OK with you
No skin off my back, it just makes you look like an idiot

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hrundi89 wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:11 am
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Flogging a dead horse again I see.
If Seiff was a coach he'd be conservative and defensive. Likes kicking to the corners and keeping error count low. From that perspective I can understand his position. Of course I wildly disagree with it. I love attack

Raiders666 is a different case, just got something stuck up his ass. Can't leave a thread alone without having a dig at Savage, and doesn't post much else
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Canberra Milk wrote: July 27, 2022, 5:46 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:11 am
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Flogging a dead horse again I see.
If Seiff was a coach he'd be conservative and defensive. Likes kicking to the corners and keeping error count low. From that perspective I can understand his position. Of course I wildly disagree with it. I love attack

Raiders666 is a different case, just got something stuck up his ass. Can't leave a thread alone without having a dig at Savage, and doesn't post much else
Hey I only gave Savage grief in 2 threads .... I just like me a fullback who can tackle and hold onto the ball 🤷
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I think Savage has done really well since coming into the team. We wouldn't have scored Kris's try or the try on the right hand side v Melbourne w/o him. I've really enjoyed watching him play and when CNK was in the side we were getting nowhere. It seems ages ago that we started with CNK and Semi in the side. He gives another focal point in attack and takes pressure of the halves. He can improve on ball handling and defence but is only a young player.

We can also make half or full breaks from kick returns now.
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4 tries 0 try assists and only 2 line breaks is hardly anything to get excited about.
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Canberra Raiders co-captain Elliott Whitehead would back an NRL pride round

Canberra Raiders co-captain Elliott Whitehead would be "all for" a pride round if the NRL introduced one.

"I have no problem with doing that. I'd be all for it and I'm sure a majority of our team would as well," he said. "That [drama's] nothing to with our club at the moment, that's somewhere else, but if that comes out of that then I'm sure the club will go in the right direction."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Canberra Raiders look to get in Gold Coast Titans' Tino Fa'asuamaleaui's face



It's a battle of the two biggest boppers in the NRL - the Canberra Raiders' Joe Tapine and his Gold Coast counterpart Tino Fa'asuamaleaui.

""That'll be a good match-up, big Tino and Taps going at it. I'll have front-row seats in watching that, it'll be good. It's a group effort there - you can't take him one-on-one. We'll probably try to get into his face early so he doesn't get a roll on," Tom Starling said of the Titans captain.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

VIDEO: Anthony Seibold and Renee Gartner preview the Round 20 match between the Gold Coast Titans and Canberra Raiders: https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/07/27/tit ... -round-20/

VIDEO: Women in League - Caitlyn Chalmers: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2022/07 ... -chalmers/

PODCAST: Behind the Limelight: Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2022/07 ... klokstad3/
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Whether savage is our long term fullback or a long term nrl football remains very much to be seen, but I know one thing is for sure, we’re a much better football team with him in the side over CNK. I feel confident in saying 90% of fans are instantly more excited when the ball is in his hands.

Imagine being so stubborn as to death ride a 15 game rookie and deprive yourself from being able to enjoy the excitement a talent like him can give a fan. Couldn’t be me.
I feel sorry for those sad sack losers.
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They will probably do the same against Taps but they won’t put him down, and they will have papa coming as well!!
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Botman wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:49 pm Whether savage is our long term fullback or a long term nrl football remains very much to be seen, but I know one thing is for sure, we’re a much better football team with him in the side over CNK. I feel confident in saying 90% of fans are instantly more excited when the ball is in his hands.

Imagine being so stubborn as to death ride a 15 game rookie and deprive yourself from being able to enjoy the excitement a talent like him can give a fan. Couldn’t be me.
I feel sorry for those sad sack losers.
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Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:18 pm 4 tries 0 try assists and only 2 line breaks is hardly anything to get excited about.
3 try assists, 5 line breaks, 3 lb assists, 8 total try involvements according to Fox. All more than Charnze has. Some of those are already as many as Charnze produces in an average season.

And blind Freddy can see we are attacking much better.
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BadnMean wrote: July 27, 2022, 7:09 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:18 pm 4 tries 0 try assists and only 2 line breaks is hardly anything to get excited about.
3 try assists, 5 line breaks, 3 lb assists, 8 total try involvements according to Fox. All more than Charnze has. Some of those are already as many as Charnze produces in an average season.

And blind Freddy can see we are attacking much better.
My bad....Just went off his stats on the Raiders website. Obviously I'm in the minority but I just don't see a 1st grade quality fullback in the kid. We will see what happens
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greeneyed wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:31 pm Canberra Raiders co-captain Elliott Whitehead would back an NRL pride round

Canberra Raiders co-captain Elliott Whitehead would be "all for" a pride round if the NRL introduced one.

"I have no problem with doing that. I'd be all for it and I'm sure a majority of our team would as well," he said. "That [drama's] nothing to with our club at the moment, that's somewhere else, but if that comes out of that then I'm sure the club will go in the right direction."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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There's a lot of reasons our attack has changed, Savage is one of them. Time will tell if he continues to improve.

As CM pointed out, my focus is on getting the fundamentals right, although given the strengths of our squad I'm a huge advocate of second phase play and early shifts to the centres. Wighton should also be bombing a lot more, rather than grubbers that go 10 metres too long. But I digress...

Savage is clearly a work in progress. He's learning on the job. I've just taken the attitude that this is a season of transition, so we are going to see a lot of rocks in amongst a few diamonds.

Like I say though, Woolford won't get a great deal of plaudits for his flashy play, but my goodness he's made a huge difference to our attack.

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Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 7:21 pm
BadnMean wrote: July 27, 2022, 7:09 pm
Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:18 pm 4 tries 0 try assists and only 2 line breaks is hardly anything to get excited about.
3 try assists, 5 line breaks, 3 lb assists, 8 total try involvements according to Fox. All more than Charnze has. Some of those are already as many as Charnze produces in an average season.

And blind Freddy can see we are attacking much better.
My bad....Just went off his stats on the Raiders website. Obviously I'm in the minority but I just don't see a 1st grade quality fullback in the kid. We will see what happens
Do you watch our games though? Because one of his try assists was just a few days ago. Honestly thought you were taking the piss when you said "0 try assists".
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Raiders666 wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:13 pm
Canberra Milk wrote: July 27, 2022, 5:46 pm
hrundi89 wrote: July 27, 2022, 11:11 am
Seiffert82 wrote: July 27, 2022, 10:43 am I'm sure many have seen the introduction of Savage as being a big factor in our turnaround. I can appreciate that, but at this stage he subtracts as much as he adds to our performances. The two halves of the Warriors game couldn't provide a more stark example.

Not death riding the kid. Just pointing out the bleedingly obvious.

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Flogging a dead horse again I see.
If Seiff was a coach he'd be conservative and defensive. Likes kicking to the corners and keeping error count low. From that perspective I can understand his position. Of course I wildly disagree with it. I love attack

Raiders666 is a different case, just got something stuck up his ass. Can't leave a thread alone without having a dig at Savage, and doesn't post much else
Hey I only gave Savage grief in 2 threads .... I just like me a fullback who can tackle and hold onto the ball 🤷
Well I can concede those aren't his strong points at the moment. I think he'll get better at both. Maybe not this year, but next year and onwards. We'll see.

On his tackling, he did a good gamesaver on Jahrome Hughes, admittedly not a 1-on-1 which is where he can struggle. But still, shows promise.

On his handling, he leaps well and seems to be good in the air. He loses the ball in contact which I think is likely to improve with technique (he often holds the ball in one hand), and as he bulks up
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: July 27, 2022, 6:14 pm I think Savage has done really well since coming into the team. We wouldn't have scored Kris's try or the try on the right hand side v Melbourne w/o him. I've really enjoyed watching him play and when CNK was in the side we were getting nowhere. It seems ages ago that we started with CNK and Semi in the side. He gives another focal point in attack and takes pressure of the halves. He can improve on ball handling and defence but is only a young player.

We can also make half or full breaks from kick returns now.
That's true, comparing Savage/Kris to CNK/Valemei, it feels much better now, and dare I say more in the Raiders DNA of speed over bulk
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