zim wrote: ↑May 25, 2022, 10:57 pm
The amount of control it seems like they have is a lot more shaky in reality given the floor walkers they have on certain issues. Manchin as one example. For gun control there's more than just him.
Personally I wish they just went hammer and tongs for it to force those votes into public view and trim the fat from their party, or gain enough seats at the mid terms that those voices are irrelevant.
Agreed that its shakier than it looks, but progressive podcasters i listen to are fairly adamant the numbers are there even accounting for the "floor walkers", as you called them.
And like i said, if they did it, most of what they did would be immediately repealed as soon as the Republicans got back in, so in that respect i can understand the desire to work with them to put something in place that might survive the next time the republicans get control
However, at some point you have to just do SOMETHING so you can sleep at night knowing you've tried your best. And ****, who knows... maybe you ram some gun reform, and in the couple of years its in place the people start to see it's having a impact in reducing gun violence and mass shootings and that helps convince more people/politicians who are on the fence to support it forcefully?
I dont know. Its certainly a difficult issue to address given the size and scope of the gun problem there, but for me... it's beyond the point now where the democrats just have to do SOMETHING, to go down swinging at the very least so they can look themselves in the eye and not be ashamed of themselves