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I think moving Jack makes sense if it's to bring in a good enough player. Moving him to play Frawley I am not so sure on.
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I don't think people are hooked on that. I think people tale that into consideration coupled with the fact he's had to play his entire 6 career with numpties at halfback and a fullback that can't pass.PerthRaider86 wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 9:33 amShould be 13. Wighton
But people get so hooked on 'oh but he won the dally M at six'
I personally think he would be like an Isiah Yeo or Cam Murray type of lock with some kicking ability
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Yes I agree. We would need to bring in a good number 6Crash Ball wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 10:05 am I think moving Jack makes sense if it's to bring in a good enough player. Moving him to play Frawley I am not so sure on.
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For me it’s simply down to this
Whatever you think of Wighton and where his best position lays, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that’s he’s our best half right now
Until such time as we have not 1 but 2 better halves than him, moving our best half to a position that isn’t as important to accomodate a player not as good as him in the more important position… well let’s just say I don’t think that’s a path to improving our footy team
If I woke up tomorrow in an alternate reality and the club had somehow signed Munster and Schnieder was having a Sam Walker level rookie year then I’d be very open about moving Wighton. Until then though, it’s just not viable imo
Whatever you think of Wighton and where his best position lays, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that’s he’s our best half right now
Until such time as we have not 1 but 2 better halves than him, moving our best half to a position that isn’t as important to accomodate a player not as good as him in the more important position… well let’s just say I don’t think that’s a path to improving our footy team
If I woke up tomorrow in an alternate reality and the club had somehow signed Munster and Schnieder was having a Sam Walker level rookie year then I’d be very open about moving Wighton. Until then though, it’s just not viable imo
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Wait, we're signing Munster?!
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Yes, in an alternate universe.
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100%, i don't understand why people can't see how good a move this would be for us and jackPerthRaider86 wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 9:33 amShould be 13. Wighton
But people get so hooked on 'oh but he won the dally M at six'
I personally think he would be like an Isiah Yeo or Cam Murray type of lock with some kicking ability
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Because what good is Jack being Isiah Yeo when instead of Nathan Cleary and Jarome Luai we have Brad Schnieder/Matt Frawley/Jamal Fogarty?nemesis wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 9:00 pm100%, i don't understand why people can't see how good a move this would be for us and jackPerthRaider86 wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 9:33 amShould be 13. Wighton
But people get so hooked on 'oh but he won the dally M at six'
I personally think he would be like an Isiah Yeo or Cam Murray type of lock with some kicking ability
Wighton could be the BEST lock forward in the world and he'd be completely wasting his time distributing to those guys in the halves.
What Yeo does is help push their elite play makers a little bit wider of the ruck and lets them work with more space and time... what good is that when you're shuffling the ball on to players who cant play make?
Yeo helps his halves, no question about that, but their abilities as play makers is what makes his role so important. The halves make him, not the other way around.
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I'd assume Yeo isn't earning 900k per season either?
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Tyrone Peachy looks like he’s after a new club again, can anyone believe the Tigers are paying him $750k? No wonder he signed with them.
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Jesus Christ. I still like him. But 750k wowee. I'd take him on 300. He's the style of player the current squad lacks. That's astonishing that money though.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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CHRIST! hahahah
How do the tigers keep doing this... they had Mybe on 750k as well. Wild ****
How do the tigers keep doing this... they had Mybe on 750k as well. Wild ****
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I think it was 750k over two years
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Yeah surely someone has misquoted it. If it is 750 over 2 that's a cut price player that would be good for Canberra to target imo.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Well that's something! At this point i'd believe anything with the tigers and salaries though
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I’m not too sure, the article just stated $750k deal so sound like a total as opposed to yearly. The $750k figure probably gets more clicks, if the Tigers are looking at tipping in that’s not a lot of cap space for a decent player.
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Brooks might be getting axed by the tigers so.... you know... we could already have Munster at home.
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I've been critical of the club's recruitment and retention but we dodged a bullet in not signing both Peachey and Matt Dufty. I was wrong about Adam Elliott who has been one of our best since the Warriors game - the key was the pricing which gave us all upside and little downside risk.
When you think about it, it's always the same clubs going for a particular player that no other good club wants
Hetherington - us, Wests Tigers, Newcastle
Elliott - us and Newcastle
Peachey - from memory it was only us and Wests
Ryan James chose us over Roosters as we gave him a two year deal, Roosters were right in only offering 1 year after his ACL. Now we are paying Broncos money for the additional year.
I think Peachey can be an X factor in similar vein to when Blake Austin joined us. Another point in attack at 13. We would not want to pay more than $200,000 next year with Wests chipping in the rest.
When you think about it, it's always the same clubs going for a particular player that no other good club wants
Hetherington - us, Wests Tigers, Newcastle
Elliott - us and Newcastle
Peachey - from memory it was only us and Wests
Ryan James chose us over Roosters as we gave him a two year deal, Roosters were right in only offering 1 year after his ACL. Now we are paying Broncos money for the additional year.
I think Peachey can be an X factor in similar vein to when Blake Austin joined us. Another point in attack at 13. We would not want to pay more than $200,000 next year with Wests chipping in the rest.
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I'd love to sign peach. Incredibly skilful player who can slot into a number of positions that we are weak on
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Caryannis on SEN said no nrl clubs interested and Peachey's form warrants thatFROG wrote:I'd love to sign peach. Incredibly skilful player who can slot into a number of positions that we are weak on
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Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
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$750k would be one of the highest paid locks in the game. Tarps is on $750k.Postman Pat wrote: ↑June 20, 2022, 8:52 pm I’m not too sure, the article just stated $750k deal so sound like a total as opposed to yearly. The $750k figure probably gets more clicks, if the Tigers are looking at tipping in that’s not a lot of cap space for a decent player.
Ricky’s new project? He needs one every year.
Peachy was casting around for a club to join. $350/$400k per year sounds about right- he was coming off a decent season but no one was pretending he was Cam Murray.
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Hmm when you say Peachy was going rubbish, even last year in 2021 he had 5 tries, 12 forced drop outs (handy skillful lock) and was averaging more metres per game than Adam Elliot is this year, same tackling % at about 92% effective and broke tackles at the same rate... so if Adam Elliot is going ok then Peachy was reasonably productive.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:18 am Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
Not a stellar player but there was a period in peak Vlandy'sball when it looked like the game was turning towards his style and size of lock. Things have slowed a tad since then.
Can see why a club took a 300k punt on him based on that. Might have been a role for him as bench lock/utility half if his form held up and the game stayed quicker.
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Caryannis clarification was 750k over 2yrsBadnMean wrote:$750k would be one of the highest paid locks in the game. Tarps is on $750k.Postman Pat wrote: ↑June 20, 2022, 8:52 pm I’m not too sure, the article just stated $750k deal so sound like a total as opposed to yearly. The $750k figure probably gets more clicks, if the Tigers are looking at tipping in that’s not a lot of cap space for a decent player.
Ricky’s new project? He needs one every year.
Peachy was casting around for a club to join. $350/$400k per year sounds about right- he was coming off a decent season but no one was pretending he was Cam Murray.
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I didn’t think Raiders were paying freight on Ryan James. Has there been any news reports claiming we were?
Ben Ikin said on radio that they were simply taking on his contract for 2022, but I’m not sure if there’s been separate reports.
Ben Ikin said on radio that they were simply taking on his contract for 2022, but I’m not sure if there’s been separate reports.
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Cherry picked stats doesn't doesn't really support the case. If he was such a valuable contributor the Titans would not have let him go and the Tigers would not be trying to offload him now.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:58 amHmm when you say Peachy was going rubbish, even last year in 2021 he had 5 tries, 12 forced drop outs (handy skillful lock) and was averaging more metres per game than Adam Elliot is this year, same tackling % at about 92% effective and broke tackles at the same rate... so if Adam Elliot is going ok then Peachy was reasonably productive.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:18 am Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
Not a stellar player but there was a period in peak Vlandy'sball when it looked like the game was turning towards his style and size of lock. Things have slowed a tad since then.
Can see why a club took a 300k punt on him based on that. Might have been a role for him as bench lock/utility half if his form held up and the game stayed quicker.
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I don't care how bad he's been. But if Canberra pass up getting Peacher on 200k that will do me. The squad is desperate for utility. And the bloke covers 14, 13, 6, 9 and 3/4.
Considering we constantly see blokes like Schiller on the bench wasting spots it would ve crazy not to.
Considering we constantly see blokes like Schiller on the bench wasting spots it would ve crazy not to.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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It's a pretty broad selection of stats- defence, attack, yards. I don't really see how I "cherry picked" it.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 9:53 amCherry picked stats doesn't doesn't really support the case. If he was such a valuable contributor the Titans would not have let him go and the Tigers would not be trying to offload him now.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:58 amHmm when you say Peachy was going rubbish, even last year in 2021 he had 5 tries, 12 forced drop outs (handy skillful lock) and was averaging more metres per game than Adam Elliot is this year, same tackling % at about 92% effective and broke tackles at the same rate... so if Adam Elliot is going ok then Peachy was reasonably productive.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:18 am Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
Not a stellar player but there was a period in peak Vlandy'sball when it looked like the game was turning towards his style and size of lock. Things have slowed a tad since then.
Can see why a club took a 300k punt on him based on that. Might have been a role for him as bench lock/utility half if his form held up and the game stayed quicker.
And I didn't say he was good this year, just that he was decent enough last year to be worth a punt at the price- and his output was similar to our low dollar punt at lock...
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Cherry picked across various categories and don't really prove anyting. I will agree that first half of last year he was going well. Mainly because he simplified his game. Played very direct and took the line on regualry. His game dropped off towards the back end of the year when he reverted back to his more chaotic style. Went back to playing too sideways and disrupting his own team's attack more than the opposition defense.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 10:10 amIt's a pretty broad selection of stats- defence, attack, yards. I don't really see how I "cherry picked" it.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 9:53 amCherry picked stats doesn't doesn't really support the case. If he was such a valuable contributor the Titans would not have let him go and the Tigers would not be trying to offload him now.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:58 amHmm when you say Peachy was going rubbish, even last year in 2021 he had 5 tries, 12 forced drop outs (handy skillful lock) and was averaging more metres per game than Adam Elliot is this year, same tackling % at about 92% effective and broke tackles at the same rate... so if Adam Elliot is going ok then Peachy was reasonably productive.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:18 am Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
Not a stellar player but there was a period in peak Vlandy'sball when it looked like the game was turning towards his style and size of lock. Things have slowed a tad since then.
Can see why a club took a 300k punt on him based on that. Might have been a role for him as bench lock/utility half if his form held up and the game stayed quicker.
And I didn't say he was good this year, just that he was decent enough last year to be worth a punt at the price- and his output was similar to our low dollar punt at lock...
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That's the essence of Peachy. Effective when it's simplified but when he's required to "impact" or come up with the big play it's very often a negative impact. He finds himself in that situation far more often than his skill level demands because of that reputation.
I'm really not a fan but at 200k, sure.
I'm really not a fan but at 200k, sure.
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Lol, I included practically every stat available on a standard club profile. Do you want his kick metres? Offloads? Fantasy points? Total tackles?Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 10:40 amCherry picked across various categories and don't really prove anyting. I will agree that first half of last year he was going well. Mainly because he simplified his game. Played very direct and took the line on regualry. His game dropped off towards the back end of the year when he reverted back to his more chaotic style. Went back to playing too sideways and disrupting his own team's attack more than the opposition defense.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 10:10 amIt's a pretty broad selection of stats- defence, attack, yards. I don't really see how I "cherry picked" it.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 9:53 amCherry picked stats doesn't doesn't really support the case. If he was such a valuable contributor the Titans would not have let him go and the Tigers would not be trying to offload him now.BadnMean wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:58 amHmm when you say Peachy was going rubbish, even last year in 2021 he had 5 tries, 12 forced drop outs (handy skillful lock) and was averaging more metres per game than Adam Elliot is this year, same tackling % at about 92% effective and broke tackles at the same rate... so if Adam Elliot is going ok then Peachy was reasonably productive.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 21, 2022, 8:18 am Peachey has been getting by on a reputation from 5 years ago. Hard to think of anything special he's done since then. Constantly talked up as an X factor when he's on the field yet he doesn't deliver.
Not a stellar player but there was a period in peak Vlandy'sball when it looked like the game was turning towards his style and size of lock. Things have slowed a tad since then.
Can see why a club took a 300k punt on him based on that. Might have been a role for him as bench lock/utility half if his form held up and the game stayed quicker.
And I didn't say he was good this year, just that he was decent enough last year to be worth a punt at the price- and his output was similar to our low dollar punt at lock...
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Nailed itBotman wrote: ↑June 19, 2022, 10:45 am For me it’s simply down to this
Whatever you think of Wighton and where his best position lays, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that’s he’s our best half right now
Until such time as we have not 1 but 2 better halves than him, moving our best half to a position that isn’t as important to accomodate a player not as good as him in the more important position… well let’s just say I don’t think that’s a path to improving our footy team
If I woke up tomorrow in an alternate reality and the club had somehow signed Munster and Schnieder was having a Sam Walker level rookie year then I’d be very open about moving Wighton. Until then though, it’s just not viable imo
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If we can get Peachey for $200k - sure. I don't think he's worth much more than that though. Interesting that people are keen to sign Peachey when he's been crap this year, yet people also call Elliott on $200k or so a plodder despite being a valuable contributor in most games this season.
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Why would we be wanting to sign a 30 year old reject from the Wests Tigers, after they've played half a season with that club?