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Botman wrote:
July 1, 2020, 1:10 pm
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Are you missing the part whereby that was exactly what was about to transpire should the Dogs have come to the party on 5-10% more than our 750k offer? We offered 750k, and he said "you're getting closer"...and went off in search of 800k or more.
That was never going to transpire because its now evidently clear the dogs don't even want to match that offer, least of all beat it.

You can guess what might have happened if the Dogs decided to offer 5-10% more but that's all it would, a guess. In the hypothetical you've laid out I would hope if the difference was marginal, he'd stay but maybe he would have left? I dont know.
His position was, he and his representation felt clubs were going to offer substantially more than we were willing to offer, not marginally, so the course of action taken and the bridges burnt were done so with that mind frame.

And given the way this actually played out, in that by the time the offer did come down from Canterbury, we'd already pulled our offer. So i dont feel like i can say what he'd have done if the Dogs came to the party with our offer firm, and came in with 5-10% more.

And i dont think what he's doing now is instructive to that hypothetical, because the situations are wildly different imo.
What i do know is he's not making a decision to take a marginal offer over our offer, because we had pulled our offer long before he got the dogs offer.
JB has pretty much stated unequivocally that it is all about getting the most amount of money he can.

The club made an offer of 750k, which was met with "getting closer".

At that time of that offer I think it is a stronger guess to assume that there was some level of interest from other parties to go higher than that. If the best that was being offered elsewhere was 665k (the approximate value of the current Dogs offer), then I am sure he would have re-signed with us at the time, rather than engaging in fanciful talk of securing 950k.

The fact he didn't surely tells you that there was some interest elsewhere which had his attention, and likely it was in that "marginal upgrade" territory.

I think it is far more likely that Dogs were toying with 750-800k and then when they saw suitors pulling the pin/his second surgery being announced, they went all the way back down to 665k or so.

And if the above is true, which I believe it is, then it also suggests that JB was certainly interested in moving elsewhere for a few extra K. And cue the questions about his character.
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Forget him. Let’s move on

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That's not my read on how this played out. A few months ago it was reported the Raiders had made an offer to JB and his team, and we told reportedly told them it was as high as we could go, JB and his team knocked it back, said that was way under market, we stood firm and said that's all we can do and if thats not good enough then good luck, Don reportedly offered to drive him to his new club if he got the offers they were expecting, so talks stall, no one is budging and the club agreed to let him the test the market.

What we know now based on reporting is that offer was 750k and the response was "getting closer", which i dont interpret as saying we were close, in fact i read it and i think Stuart interpreted it the same as a dismissive way of saying not good enough. And it was at that moment confirmed by the man himself, Stuart knew he wasnt going to be here, and started reallocating funds. And we pull our offer and move on.

There was clearly in my mind an expectation from JB and his representation that they'd be fielding offers well in excess to our 750k. The reports at the time say the dogs and dragons were rumoured to be interested in deals for about 800k, but from JB and his team's perspective, that's an opening bid in the auction... So the starting point is 50k difference (50k is about 7.5% difference which i wouldnt actually call marginal but for the sake of this, we'll call that marignal), but Moses at that time is undoubtedly thinking that once he has two teams bidding, this is going up past 850k. Now that's 100k difference which is CERTAINLY not marginal imo.

But they misevaluated the market, the interest was never really there, and the offers never materialised for whatever reason, so they came crawling back for the 750k but it was already reallocated and our offer was pulled... now all he's left with is the offer to return home or the bulldogs offer.
At least that's my belief and understanding of how this all went down

But if that's not your read on it, fair enough. Agree to disagree :)
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Botman wrote:
July 1, 2020, 2:41 pm
That's not my read on how this played out. A few months ago it was reported the Raiders had made an offer to JB and his team, and we told reportedly told them it was as high as we could go, JB and his team knocked it back, said that was way under market, we stood firm and said that's all we can do and if thats not good enough then good luck, Don reportedly offered to drive him to his new club if he got the offers they were expecting, so talks stall, no one is budging and the club agreed to let him the test the market.

What we know now based on reporting is that offer was 750k and the response was "getting closer", which i dont interpret as saying we were close, in fact i read it and i think Stuart interpreted it the same as a dismissive way of saying not good enough. And it was at that moment confirmed by the man himself, Stuart knew he wasnt going to be here, and started reallocating funds. And we pull our offer and move on.

There was clearly in my mind an expectation from JB and his representation that they'd be fielding offers well in excess to our 750k. The reports at the time say the dogs and dragons were rumoured to be interested in deals for about 800k, but from JB and his team's perspective, that's an opening bid in the auction... So the starting point is 50k difference (50k is about 7.5% difference which i wouldnt actually call marginal but for the sake of this, we'll call that marignal), but Moses at that time is undoubtedly thinking that once he has two teams bidding, this is going up past 850k. Now that's 100k difference which is CERTAINLY not marginal imo.

But they misevaluated the market, the interest was never really there, and the offers never materialised for whatever reason, so they came crawling back for the 750k but it was already reallocated and our offer was pulled... now all he's left with is the offer to return home or the bulldogs offer.
At least that's my belief and understanding of how this all went down

But if that's not your read on it, fair enough. Agree to disagree :)
I just disagree that he wouldn't have left for a pretty marginal upgrade, all communication from his camp suggested it was purely about the cash and not much else. Don't want to get into it for too much longer so we can agree to disagree.

I think we can both agree it is a rubbish situation and both parties are walking away taking big L's - the difference is I think Raiders come out of it looking OK and Camp Bateman (especially looking at you Mr. Moses) are coming out of it looking less than sterling.
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Mickey_Raider wrote:
July 1, 2020, 2:56 pm
I think we can both agree it is a rubbish situation and both parties are walking away taking big L's - the difference is I think Raiders come out of it looking OK and Camp Bateman (especially looking at you Mr. Moses) are coming out of it looking less than sterling.
Yes indeed, The Raiders have handled this as well as can be expected... a miserable situation and result for the JB camp. And i think someone said this earlier, so credit to them, but it really is a cautionary tale for other players about player managers.

And i like to joke that they're all snakes but the reality is most of them are actually alright, and try and do what's best for their client. But when you choose to link up with people like Moses, who are running their own agenda and aren't really about their clients welfare but more about their commission, you HAVE to maintain a healthy level of skepticism when he's filling your head with dreamy numbers.
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tbh I am going to have a hard time cheering john bateman on if he comes back before the end of the year.

Dont get me wrong i will cheer him on, but less enthusiastically.

Once he is playing for the dogs, I am going to get a lot of joy cheering his opposite number hoping he does a job on him.

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I wonder if in this day and age his potential suitors will use the PR backlash as a negotiation tool. Between that and the injury concerns I can't say I'd be offering him more than 650.

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Should Moses manage to win his appeal and remain an accredited agent, I think players will look at how this was handled and be much warier when he comes a courting saying he can get them $X more if they sign with him.
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Fun fact, I wen't to school with Isaac Moses at Parramatta Marist...we were in the same grade.
It goes without saying that nothing I read about him is any surprise. Questionable character back then and clearly still is now..

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I just cannot fathom for the life of me why any player would ever sign on with Moses as an agent. His entire history is littered with **** like this, promising the moon and not delivering.

To me it means one of two things - the player is an idiot, or the player is a grub. I would be 100% fine with Don pulling a Politis and saying in future the Raiders will not deal with Isaac Moses due to his deeply unethical business practices so any player who wants to sign with us cannot have him as a manager, and any player playing for us who switches to him will be moved on.

As for people saying this will end if his appeal is not held up - he has a whole stable of similar scumbag agents under him. He'll still be pulling the strings, it'll just be someone else's name on the paper.
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Timbo wrote:
July 1, 2020, 4:38 pm
I just cannot fathom for the life of me why any player would ever sign on with Moses as an agent. His entire history is littered with **** like this, promising the moon and not delivering.
That's exactly why Bateman himself looks bad out of this, and will probably end up with $50k+ per season less in his pocket as a result.

The club has indeed made him the poster boy for player management shenanigans. They already set the tone for this stuff when Leilua asked for an extension years in advance, on a premium level deal.

That's two contracts with two clubs that Bateman has broken in two seasons. This time it has cost him cash and he's negotiating a new deal while sidelined with a serious injury.

Great player. Thanks for the memories. Time to move on.

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It's damn ugly is all...

JB is no longer with us because his manager IM is a ___________ !!!!!!

I can't believe how it's all unfolded.
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Let’s all move on and forget about this tool... if he misses his daughter and family then he should return to England, otherwise be greedy and go to the dogs... let’s see if he can make an impact outside Lewis and I’m injured again Foran...
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You can’t begrudge the man for trying to make money. Love it or hate it, it’s what makes the world go around.

But as fans, we can absolutely begrudge John Bateman’s conduct. The sheer crass, classless behaviour and straight up dishonesty with his public communications (mainly via social media) now leave him very much open to criticism.

And for those who lay the blame on Moses - well he is only a representative of Bateman and his role is to act on Bateman’s wishes. JB has tried to hide from this fact when challenged, but no matter how evasive he is - the buck stops with him.

Own it John - you’ve made this bed for yourself, now next year when you’re losing 50-0 and getting destroyed copping repeated hospital passes off some rubbish Bulldogs half, you are welcome to lie in it.

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Btw, he lost me when he pulled those antics in Grand Final week last year. Only a selfish grub does that to his team at such an important time

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Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
we could have kept him for 2020..

but like all players he wanted a better deal... and stick saw curtis scott as an opportunity...

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GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.

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BadnMean wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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Rickmando wrote:
July 1, 2020, 5:31 pm
You can’t begrudge the man for trying to make money. Love it or hate it, it’s what makes the world go around.

But as fans, we can absolutely begrudge John Bateman’s conduct. The sheer crass, classless behaviour and straight up dishonesty with his public communications (mainly via social media) now leave him very much open to criticism.

And for those who lay the blame on Moses - well he is only a representative of Bateman and his role is to act on Bateman’s wishes. JB has tried to hide from this fact when challenged, but no matter how evasive he is - the buck stops with him.


Own it John - you’ve made this bed for yourself, now next year when you’re losing 50-0 and getting destroyed copping repeated hospital passes off some rubbish Bulldogs half, you are welcome to lie in it.
This for me is absolutely key. It's fine for people to go 'he's got a limited career! He has to make what he can!'. For starters, I refute this nonsense. Because (a) John Bateman earns in a year what your average punter earns in about nine years, meaning his three year contract has about 22 years of my earnings in it (factoring in his higher tax bracket and (b) it assumes that the money he earns playing football is the only money he will ever earn. In a ten year career, he will earn a lifetimes worth of money and if he pisses that all away whilst he's playing football, I have zero sympathy for him not forward planning.

But the main point is - even if we take it as written that he has to earn as much as he can during his career, he doesn't have to look like an absolute bucket while he's doing it. I have absolutely zero tolerance for liars. He lied, straight up. Said there was no truth in his asking for releases. And he said it on a technicality - he didn't ask for a release, his manager did. If John Bateman did not approve of his manager asking for a release, and he found out that his manager had been asking for one, he'd sack the manager on the spot. He obviously knew what was going on and tried to feign ignorance on a technicality. That's just a lie and speaks to his character.

But also, there's a bigger point here. We're all fans of the Canberra Raiders. Do any of you really, really look at a gun player that we've lost for more money and go 'gee, I wish we'd kept him but I'm glad he's building his super and my football team is worse for it?' If so, why? I'm not cheering for these blokes and spending my money because I hope they're building an investment portfolio and opening businesses. I'm cheering for them because I want the Canberra Raiders to win. So when Bateman leaves, why would I be happy for him that he's got more money? Especially in the manner that he's gone?
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gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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The silence from Bateman on social media is deafening

Where is the " thank you canberra for giving me a chance to come here, and i will do my best to get back on the field and repay you before i go" post?

What about thanks also to the fans who welcomed and supported me?

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-PJ- wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:35 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:21 pm
Let's not forget that while this whole scenario has been playing out the club we all support was quite ok to squeeze BJ out of the club because they didn't want him anymore, despite still being contracted to the club.

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Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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cat wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:09 pm
The silence from Bateman on social media is deafening

Where is the " thank you canberra for giving me a chance to come here, and i will do my best to get back on the field and repay you before i go" post?

What about thanks also to the fans who welcomed and supported me?
Probably being well advised by someone to say nothing about it. Would have been well advised to take that stance from Grand Final week on.
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cat wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:09 pm
The silence from Bateman on social media is deafening

Where is the " thank you canberra for giving me a chance to come here, and i will do my best to get back on the field and repay you before i go" post?

What about thanks also to the fans who welcomed and supported me?
Why would any do that? The only thing that will come with is his mentions getting LIT the **** on fire by unhinged fans abusing him.
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greeneyed wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:14 pm
cat wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:09 pm
The silence from Bateman on social media is deafening

Where is the " thank you canberra for giving me a chance to come here, and i will do my best to get back on the field and repay you before i go" post?

What about thanks also to the fans who welcomed and supported me?
Probably being well advised by someone to say nothing about it. Would have been well advised to take that stance from Grand Final week on.
He was happy to have a go at hooper ( i think that was the journo) before....

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I'd imagine comments will come once it's announced where he is going

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cat wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:35 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm
Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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Bj was NOT pushed out, he was offered a contract, wanted more and we said fair enough, same as boyd, Brenko
So why is our club subsidising his salary at the Tigers?

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cat wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:11 pm
-PJ- wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:35 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:
July 1, 2020, 6:49 pm


Didn't BJ leave because he wanted a longer deal at a higher salary?
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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Pearce left the chooks because Mrs Cronk got lonely...
Bj was NOT pushed out, he was offered a contract, wanted more and we said fair enough, same as boyd, Brenko
That’s my recollection too.

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My job is to look after my clients: NRL agent hits back at spray from Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart

Controversial NRL agent Isaac Moses has defended himself over the John Bateman affair after a withering spray from Ricky Stuart, saying coaches also left clubs mid-contract and that salary cap issues not greed were behind the Englishman's departure from Canberra.

"My job is to look after the best interests of my clients, which I have always done, without fear or favour," said the star back-rower's manager.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/my-job ... 5582c.html

Where does John Bateman go after leaving Canberra Raiders?

A six-figure transfer fee and a contract worth more than half a million per year? Worth it. Worth it, because John Bateman wasted little time in becoming a star in the NRL. It took little more than a fortnight before he became adored by fans who thought "this is the guy we've been missing".

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... #gsc.tab=0

Legendary Raiders fullback Gary Belcher weighs in over Bateman contract saga, describing the manner in which negotiations unfolded as "not right": https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-news-j ... 5fe37858fb

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John Bateman is "no longer a part of the Raiders' future" and the club would be best to "never deal with him again," says NRL guru Phil Gould: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/john-batem ... 89bd3c2571

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gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:29 pm
cat wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:35 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
BadnMean wrote:
He was told he wouldn't be getting an extension at anything close to his current salary, or not getting an extension at all iirc.
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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Pearce left the chooks because Mrs Cronk got lonely...
Bj was NOT pushed out, he was offered a contract, wanted more and we said fair enough, same as boyd, Brenko
So why is our club subsidising his salary at the Tigers?

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Because by releasing him early, it freed up cash to upgrade, keep others

Its common practice these days

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cat wrote:
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 8:29 pm
cat wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:35 pm
gergreg wrote:
July 1, 2020, 7:19 pm
He was pushed out of the club the same way that Mitchell Pearce was pushed out of the Roosters.

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Pearce left the chooks because Mrs Cronk got lonely...
Bj was NOT pushed out, he was offered a contract, wanted more and we said fair enough, same as boyd, Brenko
So why is our club subsidising his salary at the Tigers?

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Because by releasing him early, it freed up cash to upgrade, keep others

Its common practice these days

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You believe what you want to believe.

I think Ricky got the **** with BJs lack of discipline and wanted him gone. Scott became a possible replacement. Melbourne agreed to pay part of his salary to get him off their books, then we did the exact same thing with BJ, because we didn't want him here.

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Haha. Never change, cat
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"My job is to look after the best interests of my clients
And how well do you think you've done there, hotshot? John had a contract for 100k more than his best offer now with his reputation the lofty heights it was. Now he gets after tax milkshake and sandwich bump to play at a club who will be coached by **** knows and looks a right gronk in many minds. I suppose you will get your payday.

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