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Referees versus Raiders

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Let me start by saying this is not a referee bash post. Last year my son became a referee in the junior competition and it me look at the NRL referee's more closely. I decided to work out a rating system. I found it interesting and thought I might share it.

I've Made it a bit clearer - Positive is good, negative is bad. Numbers in the brackets are the number of games

There is a weighting for past years earning less points. I've currently gone back to 2015 and will try to keep going.

Cavet: I am not saying that any referee's are biased. The win/loss ratio is the result of how the Raiders play. This is just for a bit of fun.

Grant Atkins (17) - 4.92
Gavin Badger (8) - 4.88
Chris Butler (12) - -(1.625)
Adam Cassidy (3) - 2
Matt Cecchin (15) - -(1.013)
Ben Cummins (13) - -(1.284)
Adam Gee (16) - -(1.027)
Peter Gough (6) - -(3.066)
Phil Henderson (5) - -(1.4)
Liam Kennnedy (2) - 1
Ashley Klein (22) - 1.01
Dave Munro (17) - 3.637
Henry Perenara (20) - -(1.17)
Ziggy Przeklasa-Adamski (5) - -(1.4)
Tim Roby (7) - 3.6
Todd Smith (1) - 1
Jon Stone (6) - -(1.230)
Chris Sutton (15) - 1.152
Gerald Sutton (7) - -(1.479)
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Not sure I understand what the numbers mean. I’m not surprised the Raiders have won less with Cummins and Gerard Sutton though.


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Should it not list how many games they've actually refereed the Raiders for? Some might have refereed 50 games, others only 2. It skews the results.

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It's a work in progress. I'll include number of games in brackets

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You'd have to include something around "opponent position on ladder at time of game" to assess the likelihood of the Raiders winning the game as an additional measure.
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Would also be important to know if the home and away splits.
That's an important variable to be considered.
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I'm not entirely sure how the rating system works, but the results seem to indicate quite a range in outcomes. Is it the difference in our win % with that ref vs our average winning percent?

Anyway, the results support my gut instinct that we seem to get quite a fair go out of Perenara, Klein and Badger - so the model must be correct! I don't mind Cecchin either, despite our negative score with him. Cummins is entirely unsurprising.

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Added some more games from 2015 and fixed a couple of data errors.

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Round one referees
Chris Sutton
Dave Munro

Chis Sutton has a score of -1.479 which is quite concerning. Hopefully this is contracted by Dave's score of 2.887 which is excellent.

Last year Chris reffed us for only 2 games with a 1/1 result, while we had Dave 6 times for 6 wins.
Given the opposition and last year's results, I think we're going to be given a fair go.

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Round two referees appear to be the same as round one:

Chris Sutton
Dave Munro

Due to the win last weekend, Chris has gone from negative to positive - 1.152.
Dave Munro has gone up to 3.367 which is huge.

It's looking like we have two referees which are favourable to the Raiders style of play.

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I hope we get Ben at GIO before the season goes belly up...
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-PJ- wrote:
March 18, 2020, 9:37 am
I hope we get Ben at GIO before the season goes belly up...
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