Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Seiffert82 » November 30, 2019, 9:06 am

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I'm really sad and I'm really going to miss him. I liked him, I thought he was a lot better than a lot of Raiders fans gave him credit for.

That, and I'd feel so much better having him as backup if this new guy turns out to be a dud or gets injured than Sam Williams.

On the plus side, does this mean we finally get rid of alphabet soup, or has he switched his campaign to Croker full-time?
We wouldn't have the cap space to sign the likes of Curtis Scott if the club retained Sezer over Williams as our backup half.

Sezer is good enough to earn good money as a top tier halfback in England, or as a starting half elsewhere in the NRL. I'm glad he's got the opportunity to do that rather than play reggies with us.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by gergreg » November 30, 2019, 9:34 am

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I'm really sad and I'm really going to miss him. I liked him, I thought he was a lot better than a lot of Raiders fans gave him credit for.

That, and I'd feel so much better having him as backup if this new guy turns out to be a dud or gets injured than Sam Williams.

On the plus side, does this mean we finally get rid of alphabet soup, or has he switched his campaign to Croker full-time?
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by raiderskater » November 30, 2019, 11:19 am

Seiffert82 wrote:
November 30, 2019, 9:06 am
raiderskater wrote:
November 29, 2019, 8:50 pm
I'm really sad and I'm really going to miss him. I liked him, I thought he was a lot better than a lot of Raiders fans gave him credit for.

That, and I'd feel so much better having him as backup if this new guy turns out to be a dud or gets injured than Sam Williams.

On the plus side, does this mean we finally get rid of alphabet soup, or has he switched his campaign to Croker full-time?
We wouldn't have the cap space to sign the likes of Curtis Scott if the club retained Sezer over Williams as our backup half.
But we didn't need to buy Curtis Scott. We have two excellent centres already, and good backup plans.

And I know Sezer wouldn't want to stay and play Mounties. I'm just worried because surely our luck with the Poms is going to run out sooner rather than later and I've heard a veritable mixed bag of reviews about this guy. Sezer is a known quantity and a better quantity than S Williams.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by greeneyed » November 30, 2019, 11:36 am

We need to move money in the salary cap from centres to spine... and we can’t have it tied up with players in reserve grade. That’s why we’ve signed Curtis Scott. Leilua won’t be with us after next year... so we can have a more conventional distribution of the salary cap. We’ve signed George Williams as a first grade half. We can’t afford Aidan Sezer as a back up or there “just in case”. We can only afford Sam Williams in that role. It’s all about cap management.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Botman » November 30, 2019, 5:21 pm

It was over in April when ya boi got his shot and was found wanting for about the 6th time...mercifully the coach saw he was not up to the task and got Sezer back in to help us reach the GF.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by afgtnk » November 30, 2019, 7:48 pm

And yet the best he could do was a gig in the ESL with cellar dwellars Huddersfield. Not one taker in the NRL.

It's over dawg. This war you've been running, finished. Kaput.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Botman » November 30, 2019, 9:01 pm

As i said, it was finished the moment ya boi got demoted for him and we went on the Granny.
And rightly so... Aiden Sezer might not be much, but he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be far better than Sam Williams.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by afgtnk » November 30, 2019, 9:36 pm

I couldn't care less about Sezer right now and I doubt many others do either, apart from a couple of you having a little sook in the corner by yourselves. He had little to no impact on our success, hence why the club got rid of him.

He's gone and Sam Williams is staying - get over it/live with it.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by TongueFTW » December 1, 2019, 8:16 am

It is virtually impossible in Rugby League for a halfback to have "little to no" impact on the success of a team that has made it to a Grand Final. The club opted for George Williams before the run to the Grand Final. Do you really think if 2019 had happened in 2018, Williams would have been signed? The coach made the right choice in going for an upgrade given Sezer's 2017/2018 form, but to say he had "little to no" impact on our success in 2019 (and 2016, for that matter) is totally wrong.

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » December 1, 2019, 11:12 am

Get enough drinks into Pignickrickbot and I reckon he'd be arguing Sezer is better than Andrew Johns.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Botman » December 1, 2019, 2:33 pm

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Get enough drinks into Pignickrickbot and I reckon he'd be arguing Sezer is better than Andrew Johns.
Na, but ill argue all day and every day that he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that those who argued for three years that the team was better served with Sam Williams at halfback over him were completely, totally and hopelessly wrong.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by afgtnk » December 1, 2019, 3:25 pm

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It is virtually impossible in Rugby League for a halfback to have "little to no" impact on the success of a team that has made it to a Grand Final. The club opted for George Williams before the run to the Grand Final. Do you really think if 2019 had happened in 2018, Williams would have been signed? The coach made the right choice in going for an upgrade given Sezer's 2017/2018 form, but to say he had "little to no" impact on our success in 2019 (and 2016, for that matter) is totally wrong.
Aidan Sezer had little to no impact on our success and our game as a whole. He played more or less the same from 2016 to 2019, it just happened that in two of those years we did well.

He's not an NRL grade halfback and that's been proven again by his inability to land another gig here, in what should be his prime, and despite the insistence that he's not on very much money.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by BJ » December 1, 2019, 4:59 pm

Sezer is definitely an NRL level halfback. Just nothing beyond a base level half.

But Sam Williams is not an NRL level halfback. But he’s just a quarter rung below that level and one of the best at State Cup level.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Beejay » December 1, 2019, 7:53 pm

Was the argument that Sam Williams is better than Sezer?

I thought the argument was that Sezer is mud. He’s not playing to NRL level, he wasn’t getting involved, he wasn’t closing out games, he wasn’t creating opportunities to any reasonable level, and he was just a passenger. That he deserved to be dropped and/or punted.

I admit I was back and forth with it over the 3 years. I was completely off him for a while, his game management was pathetic, and he was invisible so often.
However, at times in 2018 I felt that maybe if we just fixed our defence his minor contributions would turn into game winners and we would see him in a new perspective.

But even in 2019 he had his moments but was largely invisible or ineffective.
It may be controversial, but I think he struggled for motivation. I don’t think his lack of success as a player came from skill. At the very least, he certainly would be a hell of a player if he had the drive and mongrel of John Bateman. That may be easy to say, but for large stretches of time at the Raiders he was on the opposite spectrum to someone like JB.
I am talking levels of NRL players, since you certainly need a lot to get there, don’t get me wrong. But at that level, I feel his greatest weakness was mongrel and desire.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by greeneyed » December 1, 2019, 7:56 pm

BJ wrote:
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Sezer is definitely an NRL level halfback. Just nothing beyond a base level half.

But Sam Williams is not an NRL level halfback. But he’s just a quarter rung below that level and one of the best at State Cup level.
You might be surprised at tomorrow’s 2019 in review.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Roger Kenworthy » December 1, 2019, 8:50 pm

Botman wrote:
December 1, 2019, 2:33 pm
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Get enough drinks into Pignickrickbot and I reckon he'd be arguing Sezer is better than Andrew Johns.
Na, but ill argue all day and every day that he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that those who argued for three years that the team was better served with Sam Williams at halfback over him were completely, totally and hopelessly wrong.
You would be correct. This was more your hate for Johns than Sezer love I was thinking of haha.

Still think the Williams selection earlier in the year was the right move from Stick. Think it helped define the role he wanted from a halfback and allowed Sezer to slot in and play to that. He was even better as a playmaker than Sammy W this season which was a vast improvement over 17 and 18. Tbh he swung me enough that if I had the option today I'd take him over G Williams for next season.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by greeneyed » December 1, 2019, 8:59 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
December 1, 2019, 8:50 pm
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December 1, 2019, 2:33 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
December 1, 2019, 11:12 am
Get enough drinks into Pignickrickbot and I reckon he'd be arguing Sezer is better than Andrew Johns.
Na, but ill argue all day and every day that he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that those who argued for three years that the team was better served with Sam Williams at halfback over him were completely, totally and hopelessly wrong.
You would be correct. This was more your hate for Johns than Sezer love I was thinking of haha.

Still think the Williams selection earlier in the year was the right move from Stick. Think it helped define the role he wanted from a halfback and allowed Sezer to slot in and play to that. He was even better as a playmaker than Sammy W this season which was a vast improvement over 17 and 18. Tbh he swung me enough that if I had the option today I'd take him over G Williams for next season.
He actually wasn’t. See tomorrow’s 2019 season in review.
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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by Botman » December 1, 2019, 9:01 pm

Oh i hate Andrew Johns with the fire of 10000 suns
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Fair play on that.
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Post by Seiffert82 » December 1, 2019, 10:20 pm

FWIW I don't think there is a great deal of difference between Williams and Sezer as far as NRL quality goes. Both have played good, high level games at times and both have gone horribly missing, or even worse, executed poorly.

Sezer is clearly a more robust defender (although he does concede ground down that corridor), while I think Williams reads the play better in attack and plays what's in front of him much better than Sezer does.

On the whole, I think Sezer has a more complete skill set than Sammy. I also agree with Beejay in thinking Sezer's mental application lets him down. I get the feeling he could be a premier NRL halfback if he set his mind on it. I've seen so many positive attributes to his play - he just can't do it on a regular basis if his life depended on it.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by BJ » December 2, 2019, 8:52 am

greeneyed wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
December 1, 2019, 8:50 pm
Botman wrote:
December 1, 2019, 2:33 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
December 1, 2019, 11:12 am
Get enough drinks into Pignickrickbot and I reckon he'd be arguing Sezer is better than Andrew Johns.
Na, but ill argue all day and every day that he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that those who argued for three years that the team was better served with Sam Williams at halfback over him were completely, totally and hopelessly wrong.
You would be correct. This was more your hate for Johns than Sezer love I was thinking of haha.

Still think the Williams selection earlier in the year was the right move from Stick. Think it helped define the role he wanted from a halfback and allowed Sezer to slot in and play to that. He was even better as a playmaker than Sammy W this season which was a vast improvement over 17 and 18. Tbh he swung me enough that if I had the option today I'd take him over G Williams for next season.
He actually wasn’t. See tomorrow’s 2019 season in review.
That’s because on this rare occasion you butchered the review. Not because it was actually true.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by greeneyed » December 3, 2019, 4:22 pm

Sezer ready to take a lead

AIDAN SEZER is ready to be the on-field general who leads Huddersfield Giants up the Super League ladder.

“Simon was with the Raiders in my first year there and I had a little bit to do with him. Everyone always says he’s a good guy, and I’ve caught up with him when he’s come back to Canberra. He’s a really intelligent bloke who knows the game. What he told me about his vision for the club and how he wants me to fit in made me feel more comfortable about my decision in coming over. I play in the halves, so I want to be a general on the field.

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by greeneyed » December 4, 2019, 4:11 pm

Recruitment guru Peter Mulholland says Canberra Raiders would have liked to retain Aidan Sezer

Canberra half Aidan Sezer has signed a two year deal with the Giants which reunites him with former compatriot Simon Woolford. But this wasn’t a case of Sezer signing because he had nowhere else to go.

"We’d have liked to have kept him," Canberra’s recruitment manager Peter Mulholland said. "But we have salary cap pressure as well. He could have stayed, but Aidan had one season to go here, so we thought the opportunity to get an extended contract elsewhere was the right way to go, and we’d signed George Williams."

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Re: Raiders half Aidan Sezer joins Huddersfield Giants on two year deal

Post by radicalraider » December 4, 2019, 6:37 pm

G Williams is gna take a while to click and when he does we're still gna miss sezer

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