2019 Rd 6 V Broncos: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
5
24%
Raiders 1-12
14
67%
Draw
1
5%
Broncos 1-12
1
5%
Broncos 13+
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 21

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Post by Manbush » April 17, 2019, 7:02 pm

I’ve got a bad feeling about this weeks game, I’ve been giving way too much **** to Bronco fans the past few weeks karma is going to come back and bite me on the ass.
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Post by 1992 » April 17, 2019, 7:03 pm

Manbush wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:02 pm
I’ve got a bad feeling about this weeks game, I’ve been giving way too much **** to Bronco fans the past few weeks karma is going to come back and bite me on the ass.
Hahahaha. Same.
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Post by Green eyed Mick » April 17, 2019, 7:07 pm

BadnMean wrote:
April 17, 2019, 1:26 pm
edwahu wrote:
April 17, 2019, 1:23 pm
BadnMean wrote:
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We're much fitter and still with only 1 genuine trial. Off season program obviously made the difference. Also consider guys like Boyd and Paulo have been replaced by Bateman and Sutton. Defensive load is more distributed and down sized pack bringing greater mobility for longer periods.

There's quite a few factors contributing to the results we're seeing. Full credit to Ricky and his team for identifying the main problems and taking the right steps to rectify them.

The keys now are if we can sustain it and if our underlying strategy can compete with the better teams (Storm, Roosters etc). Jury is still out in that one.
Well we had 2 trials, which gives you the luxury of deciding who needs to play 2 to get right, or who has a niggle & can play X trial instead of Y trial and doesn't miss entirely like you might with one. It gave guys like Hors & CNK a genuine chance to show they had the right stuff too. That's the benefit of 2 trials, doesn't have to be all or nothing.
Ricky also played a bunch of the first grade middle forwards in a Mounties trial. Sutton, Horsburgh, Young, Lui had 3 trials I think. Seems like it helped with getting them match fit.
This could also be part of his rotation plan- he's recognised we needed to be fitter early in the season so gave a good, hard lead up- but will rotate most blokes during the season in an effort not to burn guys out should we make the finals.
That's a smart strategy if that is the case. It should also mean Hudson-Young, another big minute player will drop back to Mounties in a few weeks.

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Post by 1992 » April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm

Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
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Post by Rick » April 17, 2019, 7:20 pm

1992 wrote:Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
He has been really solid this year and has altered his game to suit the side (More forward less 9).

Fingers crossed that knee injury he picked up last weekend is completely sorted.


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Post by -TW- » April 17, 2019, 7:31 pm

Makes surprisingly good impact when he plays the running lock role, rarely gets dominated in a hit up

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Post by BadnMean » April 17, 2019, 7:44 pm

1992 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm
Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
Yep. He spoke all pre-season about how he had been designated bench utility role & adjusted his training & attitude to suit that, rather than playing long minutes at hooker for an absent Hodgo. Looking for slightly more size & power.

He's a good bench package as he is strong enough to bust tackles, force an offload or a few more metres in a run & hit with impact in the middle + is an effective, quick service hooker with a decent little passing or stepping game a loose forward. That's actually an upgrade on Baptiste (much as I like the guy).

Happy with him as our bench utility. If we get a few dry weather games he'll bust a game open for us somewhere.

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Post by Northern Raider » April 17, 2019, 7:47 pm

1992 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm
Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
Plus he can slot a late field goal of needed
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Post by -PJ- » April 17, 2019, 7:49 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:47 pm
1992 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm
Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
Plus he can slot a late field goal of needed
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Post by Northern Raider » April 17, 2019, 8:01 pm

-PJ- wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:49 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:47 pm
1992 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm
Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
Plus he can slot a late field goal of needed
No he can't..
Oooh judgy judgy
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Post by PigRickman » April 17, 2019, 8:12 pm

Manbush wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:02 pm
I’ve got a bad feeling about this weeks game, I’ve been giving way too much **** to Bronco fans the past few weeks karma is going to come back and bite me on the ass.

Dont worry about it, they're garbage
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Post by T_R » April 17, 2019, 8:19 pm

1992 wrote:Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
I'm liking Havilii off the bench very much indeed.
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Post by RTW » April 17, 2019, 8:21 pm

Peter Badel is reporting on Twitter that Roberts will play this weekend.


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Post by BadnMean » April 17, 2019, 8:37 pm

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Not sure that helps them a great deal. He's quick but Toots has been in good defensive form. Roberts still plays on the right?

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Post by Raiders_Pat » April 17, 2019, 8:47 pm

BadnMean wrote:
April 17, 2019, 8:37 pm
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Not sure that helps them a great deal. He's quick but Toots has been in good defensive form. Roberts still plays on the right?
Yeah, Roberts right and Bird left I'm pretty sure. I'm not too worried about him playing either.

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Post by Rickmando » April 17, 2019, 9:27 pm

Even in the days when Croker was a massive turnstile, he’s always had Roberts’ number... so bring him on

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"Man, it's been crazy but I wouldn't change anything now, it all worked out," Nicoll-Klokstad said. "I came late in the pre-season so I didn't expect too much," he said. If you had told me then (before signing) that by April I would be the Raiders starting fullback and have played the five opening games, I wouldn't have believed you. It's been a dream come true."

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Post by KingDynamite » April 17, 2019, 10:28 pm

I fear this is the game where we get spanked by an enthusiastic Broncos side and it all come crashing back to earth...

Then we will have excuses about the high energy defence has drained the team but we will come good but we never do
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Post by boydy80 » April 17, 2019, 10:45 pm

KingDynamite wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:28 pm
I fear this is the game where we get spanked by an enthusiastic Broncos side and it all come crashing back to earth...

Then we will have excuses about the high energy defence has drained the team but we will come good but we never do
Bronco's are the new Raiders in 2019

If we're complacent, and they get their tails up, they'll run a score on us quick.

If we start the game as we have been, and they don't get their (broncos) way after 20mins, they'll start to fall to bits.

It had better turn out to be the latter, considering I'm burning my Easter weekend dragging the missus to Canberra for this one :lol:
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Post by greeneyed » April 17, 2019, 10:49 pm

boydy80 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:45 pm
KingDynamite wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:28 pm
I fear this is the game where we get spanked by an enthusiastic Broncos side and it all come crashing back to earth...

Then we will have excuses about the high energy defence has drained the team but we will come good but we never do
Bronco's are the new Raiders in 2019

If we're complacent, and they get their tails up, they'll run a score on us quick.

If we start the game as we have been, and they don't get their (broncos) way after 20mins, they'll start to fall to bits.

It had better turn out to be the latter, considering I'm burning my Easter weekend dragging the missus to Canberra for this one :lol:
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Post by Northern Raider » April 17, 2019, 11:14 pm

Broncos are really struggling for form. In years past it would be a game against the Raiders that saw them regain it. This year we have a stronger mentality. Willing to roll up the sleeves and to the hard stuff needed to win. Comfortable getting into the grind.

Broncos are going to show up with a bit of steel in their backbones. Raiders need to go into this match with the same mentality they would against any of the top sides. If not we could get ambushed.
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Post by zim » April 17, 2019, 11:40 pm

This is men vs boys. A big reason the broncos are floundering is their middle has an average age of 12.

20 - Payne Hass
23 - Joe Ofahengaue
19 - David Fifita
19 - Thomas Flegler
21 - Patrick Carrigan
21 - Jaydn Su'A

Staggs is 20 and Shibasaki is 21.

We should be bullying them out of this like we have the last 2 weeks.
Past broncos sides have not only had talent they've had far better mobility than us. That's not how it is anymore.

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Post by boydy80 » April 17, 2019, 11:44 pm

greeneyed wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:49 pm
boydy80 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:45 pm
KingDynamite wrote:
April 17, 2019, 10:28 pm
I fear this is the game where we get spanked by an enthusiastic Broncos side and it all come crashing back to earth...

Then we will have excuses about the high energy defence has drained the team but we will come good but we never do
Bronco's are the new Raiders in 2019

If we're complacent, and they get their tails up, they'll run a score on us quick.

If we start the game as we have been, and they don't get their (broncos) way after 20mins, they'll start to fall to bits.

It had better turn out to be the latter, considering I'm burning my Easter weekend dragging the missus to Canberra for this one :lol:
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Post by EJ » April 17, 2019, 11:59 pm

5 wins from 6 games would be AMAZING. It would be so unusual for us, but I am confident.

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » April 18, 2019, 5:56 am

This game is where the old Raider fan mentality wants to kick in. Its where we think the old Raiders turn up for the game , no line speed , poor defense , no game management.

But we have to remind ourselves that the team is different this year. We got caught out early by the Storm but we adjusted in the game to be competitive and all the other games we havent looked like losing.

We should win this game playing like we have but we arent going to win every week , some weeks we will lose , its how we lose that is important and I don't think we are going to lose any games because we played like 2018 and back

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Post by GreenGirl » April 18, 2019, 7:23 am

Northern Raider wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:47 pm
1992 wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:09 pm
Anyone else liking Havilii off the bench? Stocky guy who makes good post contact metres and just does his job. He and Lui are going about their job with no fuss. Love it.
Plus he can slot a late field goal of needed
I actually LOL’d at this. 🤣

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Post by Timbo » April 18, 2019, 8:46 am

zim wrote:
April 17, 2019, 11:40 pm
This is men vs boys. A big reason the broncos are floundering is their middle has an average age of 12.

20 - Payne Hass
23 - Joe Ofahengaue
19 - David Fifita
19 - Thomas Flegler
21 - Patrick Carrigan
21 - Jaydn Su'A

Staggs is 20 and Shibasaki is 21.

We should be bullying them out of this like we have the last 2 weeks.
Past broncos sides have not only had talent they've had far better mobility than us. That's not how it is anymore.
Yep, bang on.

On The Matty Johns show the other night, Tallis was hammering on about how the Bronco's aren't playing for the jersey and that on paper they're a top four side and should be up there with the Roosters and Storm. Parker was agreeing with him. I've heard Lockyer express similar sentiments on Nine.

The Bronco's commentators/cheerleaders have had it so good for so long that they just can't see what's in front of them any longer - the Broncos roster just isn't that great.

Look at their spine. As you pointed out, their middle forwards are all kids. Their hooker is an ok club player who'd never have gotten a rep jersey if he didn't play for the Ponies. They have, by far, the worst organising halves in the game - and one of them isn't even a half, he's a fullback who's been forced to play in the line and is carrying too much weight for his frame. Their fullback is a pensioner who refuses to put his body on the line, and their outside backs are all over-paid prima donnas or kids who haven't kicked on with their rookie development.

About the only place where they're ok is their backrow. But even then it's thin.
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Post by Northern Raider » April 18, 2019, 8:47 am

zim wrote:
April 17, 2019, 11:40 pm
This is men vs boys. A big reason the broncos are floundering is their middle has an average age of 12.

20 - Payne Hass
23 - Joe Ofahengaue
19 - David Fifita
19 - Thomas Flegler
21 - Patrick Carrigan
21 - Jaydn Su'A

Staggs is 20 and Shibasaki is 21.

We should be bullying them out of this like we have the last 2 weeks.
Past broncos sides have not only had talent they've had far better mobility than us. That's not how it is anymore.
Thats a fair observation. Not sure its been their issue however. last week vs Tigers their focus was rolling up the middle 3rd. It worked OK in that aspect. They made good metres and Tiger's middle forwards rattled up some massive tackle numbers in that opening half. It was the inability of their playmakers to take advantage was their problem.

Bronco may be young in the middle but I wouldn't underestimate them.
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Post by Crusader » April 18, 2019, 8:52 am

I personally think Lodge is a bit of a loss for Broncos, I dont think Roberts will bother the Raiders, it could be a liability considering how injury prone he is, a win over Broncos would be sooo sweet. Raiders by 12

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Post by Timbo » April 18, 2019, 8:55 am

Crusader wrote:
April 18, 2019, 8:52 am
I personally think Lodge is a bit of a loss for Broncos, I dont think Roberts will bother the Raiders, it could be a liability considering how injury prone he is, a win over Broncos would be sooo sweet. Raiders by 12
Just get Whitehead to give him the Fergo treatment and he'll be up the tunnel in a hurry.
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Post by Aero » April 18, 2019, 9:33 am

1992 wrote:
Manbush wrote:
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I’ve got a bad feeling about this weeks game, I’ve been giving way too much **** to Bronco fans the past few weeks karma is going to come back and bite me on the ass.
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Post by gergreg » April 18, 2019, 9:39 am

Timbo wrote:
Crusader wrote:
April 18, 2019, 8:52 am
I personally think Lodge is a bit of a loss for Broncos, I dont think Roberts will bother the Raiders, it could be a liability considering how injury prone he is, a win over Broncos would be sooo sweet. Raiders by 12
Just get Whitehead to give him the Fergo treatment and he'll be up the tunnel in a hurry.
Normally I'd agree with this but we're honestly better off with Roberts on the park instead of Staggs. He's not a bad player the young fella. Not quite 'the best young centre in the game' because Croker will retire with that title.

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Post by Raiders_Pat » April 18, 2019, 9:42 am

Northern Raider wrote:
April 18, 2019, 8:47 am
zim wrote:
April 17, 2019, 11:40 pm
This is men vs boys. A big reason the broncos are floundering is their middle has an average age of 12.

20 - Payne Hass
23 - Joe Ofahengaue
19 - David Fifita
19 - Thomas Flegler
21 - Patrick Carrigan
21 - Jaydn Su'A

Staggs is 20 and Shibasaki is 21.

We should be bullying them out of this like we have the last 2 weeks.
Past broncos sides have not only had talent they've had far better mobility than us. That's not how it is anymore.
Thats a fair observation. Not sure its been their issue however. last week vs Tigers their focus was rolling up the middle 3rd. It worked OK in that aspect. They made good metres and Tiger's middle forwards rattled up some massive tackle numbers in that opening half. It was the inability of their playmakers to take advantage was their problem.

Bronco may be young in the middle but I wouldn't underestimate them.
Yeah even though they're young I rate their middle, although Lodge out is a big loss. Their halves just stink it up so bad, and they all look lost when attacking the try line...

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Post by The Rickman » April 18, 2019, 10:18 am

Manbush wrote:
April 17, 2019, 7:02 pm
I’ve got a bad feeling about this weeks game, I’ve been giving way too much **** to Bronco fans the past few weeks karma is going to come back and bite me on the ass.
Yeah good one, EDIT. There's absolutely nothing worse than April premiers, how about you keep the lid on it for at least a few months?

I've got a mate who's a dragons fan who is absolutely shooting from the hip about this time each year and deadly silent come finals time.
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Re: 2019 Rd 6 V Broncos: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

Post by Sid » April 18, 2019, 10:25 am

Whilst this year the bronco's have been underachieving for where they should be at broncos standard, as a regular NRL team I don't think they' stink as badly as the criticism they've been copping.

So far this season they've lost to the 2 top teams who appear to be well ahead of every other team, beaten the Cowboys and taken Dragons and Tigers to the last minute of their games.
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