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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 10, 2019, 2:09 pm

Hahaha fair call, NR
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Post by Manbush » April 10, 2019, 9:21 pm

My main issue with dole bludging is the lesson it teaches their children and how it can become generational. The poor are our main breeders, kids grow up with parents setting a bad example and going to bad quality public schools where it ends up hard to break the cycle. It’s one of the reasons even as someone without kids I’d love to see more of my tax money go to public schools to try and help these kids become better.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 10, 2019, 9:43 pm

That’s a load of garbage, Bushy. I went to one of the worst schools in Queensland (Albi would attest to that if he were still alive), and I turned out ok


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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Manbush » April 10, 2019, 10:06 pm

The Rickman wrote:
April 10, 2019, 9:43 pm
That’s a load of garbage, Bushy. I went to one of the worst schools in Queensland (Albi would attest to that if he were still alive), and I turned out ok


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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by -TW- » April 10, 2019, 10:36 pm

The Rickman wrote:Like I said, I literally spend more in one session down the pub than my tax for the year goes towards Newstart, so the next time someone tells you all their tax is paying for "dole bludgers", just punch them in the throat for me.
You spend more than $239 in one session..

Well **** me, your shout then..

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The Politics Thread 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 10, 2019, 11:58 pm

-TW- wrote:
The Rickman wrote:Like I said, I literally spend more in one session down the pub than my tax for the year goes towards Newstart, so the next time someone tells you all their tax is paying for "dole bludgers", just punch them in the throat for me.
You spend more than $239 in one session..

Well **** me, your shout then..
$239? Wow, you must pay a LOT more tax than I do, Timmy!

Well done!

I... I think it’s YOUR shout!
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 8:48 am

The Rickman wrote:
April 10, 2019, 9:43 pm
That’s a load of garbage, Bushy. I went to one of the worst schools in Queensland (Albi would attest to that if he were still alive), and I turned out ok
I contacted that school and they were of the opinion it's improved since you finished. Said something about raising the lowest common denominator but I didn't really understand.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 8:50 am

Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 11, 2019, 9:29 am

Northern Raider wrote:
April 11, 2019, 8:50 am
Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
I dunno, I'm sure ScoMo will go a lot better when he knows he has a full term ahead of him.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Toviii » April 11, 2019, 11:36 am

He really should’ve called the election the moment he lost the vote on that MediVac bill. Parliament has barely even sat this year? Imagine trying to stretch out your grasp on power that little bit longer.


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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by gangrenous » April 11, 2019, 12:17 pm

Northern Raider wrote:Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
May 18, 5.5 weeks

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by T_R » April 11, 2019, 12:55 pm

The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
April 11, 2019, 8:50 am
Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
I dunno, I'm sure ScoMo will go a lot better when he knows he has a full term ahead of him.
Are you still predicting a LNP win?
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 1:21 pm

gangrenous wrote:
April 11, 2019, 12:17 pm
Northern Raider wrote:Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
May 18, 5.5 weeks
Even worse :cry:
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 1:22 pm

T_R wrote:
April 11, 2019, 12:55 pm
The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
April 11, 2019, 8:50 am
Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
I dunno, I'm sure ScoMo will go a lot better when he knows he has a full term ahead of him.
Are you still predicting a LNP win?
Bill Shorten could still win it for the LNP
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by T_R » April 11, 2019, 1:34 pm

As much as I despise Shorten, I cannot imagine how the country could vote for the LNP
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 2:20 pm

T_R wrote:
April 11, 2019, 1:34 pm
As much as I despise Shorten, I cannot imagine how the country could vote for the LNP
You said it yourself. It's because they despise Shorten. He's the only person standing in the way of a landslide ALP victory.
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Post by The Rickman » April 11, 2019, 2:32 pm

T_R wrote:
April 11, 2019, 12:55 pm
The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
April 11, 2019, 8:50 am
Federal election announced for May 8. Not looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Come to think of it I'm not looking forward to the few years following either.
I dunno, I'm sure ScoMo will go a lot better when he knows he has a full term ahead of him.
Are you still predicting a LNP win?
Yup.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by -TW- » April 11, 2019, 4:41 pm

I tend to agree, I don't think it's as cut and dried as people think for Labor

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Post by Green eyed Mick » April 11, 2019, 6:59 pm

This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by T_R » April 11, 2019, 7:14 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 8:50 pm

T_R wrote:
April 11, 2019, 7:14 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
Morrison, Shorten, Di Natale, Hanson. Seriously, who can you vote for without appearing stupid?
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Post by T_R » April 11, 2019, 8:57 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote:
April 11, 2019, 7:14 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
Morrison, Shorten, Di Natale, Hanson. Seriously, who can you vote for without appearing stupid?
Anning? He seems nice.
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T_R wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
A vote for Labor is a vote for Greens.

As for the welfare debate, i have a mate....dumb as a stone boat, 58, no intention of working fulltime, lives in his car (unregistered) at Byron Bay, off his medication and in a very dangerous place with his physical and mental health.

He refuses to work. What does he do? Well, he hangs around cafes, drinking coffee, talking to people and telling them he's making the 3rd movie in Mel Gibson's The Passion trilogy.

Yep. Our tax dollars are paying for that.

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 11, 2019, 9:43 pm

dubby wrote:
April 11, 2019, 9:24 pm
T_R wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
A vote for Labor is a vote for Greens.

As for the welfare debate, i have a mate....dumb as a stone boat, 58, no intention of working fulltime, lives in his car (unregistered) at Byron Bay, off his medication and in a very dangerous place with his physical and mental health.

He refuses to work. What does he do? Well, he hangs around cafes, drinking coffee, talking to people and telling them he's making the 3rd movie in Mel Gibson's The Passion trilogy.

Yep. Our tax dollars are paying for that.

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dubby wrote:
T_R wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
A vote for Labor is a vote for Greens.

As for the welfare debate, i have a mate....dumb as a stone boat, 58, no intention of working fulltime, lives in his car (unregistered) at Byron Bay, off his medication and in a very dangerous place with his physical and mental health.

He refuses to work. What does he do? Well, he hangs around cafes, drinking coffee, talking to people and telling them he's making the 3rd movie in Mel Gibson's The Passion trilogy.

Yep. Our tax dollars are paying for that.

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Post by Sterlk » April 12, 2019, 7:38 am

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 12, 2019, 9:21 am

dubby wrote:
April 11, 2019, 9:24 pm
T_R wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:This country was dumb enough to vote for Tony Abbott. It is definitely dumb enough to elect Scott Morrison.
But are we so dumb that we would vote for Bill Shorten?

At least we're not dumb enough to vote for Di Natale - you have to give us credit for that.
A vote for Labor is a vote for Greens.

As for the welfare debate, i have a mate....dumb as a stone boat, 58, no intention of working fulltime, lives in his car (unregistered) at Byron Bay, off his medication and in a very dangerous place with his physical and mental health.

He refuses to work. What does he do? Well, he hangs around cafes, drinking coffee, talking to people and telling them he's making the 3rd movie in Mel Gibson's The Passion trilogy.

Yep. Our tax dollars are paying for that.

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And how much of your hard earned tax dollars goes towards that, dubs? Hot tip: for a whole year it's less than said mate spends on coffee in a week.

Get over it, live and let live.
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Post by T_R » April 15, 2019, 8:31 pm

Who will give me odds on Israel Folau showing up as a political candidate in Western Sydney in the next, say, 5 years? I have a little theory.
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Post by Manbush » April 15, 2019, 10:53 pm

I don’t know, surely a candidate needs a basic level of intelligence, even Hanson looks like a genius beside him.

If he does run it will be as an obvious puppet, the question will be who is pulling his strings.
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Post by Schifty » April 15, 2019, 11:01 pm

Manbush wrote:
April 15, 2019, 10:53 pm
I don’t know, surely a candidate needs a basic level of intelligence, even Hanson looks like a genius beside him.

If he does run it will be as an obvious puppet, the question will be who is pulling his strings.
Malcolm Roberts is the lead QLD candidate so this obviously isn't true.

The bloke doesn't even believe in Surnames and in the past has stated there is no such thing as a government.

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Post by Manbush » April 15, 2019, 11:19 pm

He can at least put a few coherent sentences together even though they may be factually incorrect.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Post by Northern Raider » April 16, 2019, 2:54 pm

Just had a go at ABC vote compass. Some of the questions feel a bit loaded e.g. How much should wealthier people pay in tax? Less, More, Same.

Its all relative. Pretty much anybody reading it will consider those above them to be "wealthier" but not feel they are wealthy themselves. Its also human nature that people want to pay less tax and those with more money to pay more tax to compensate. FTR its only the Greens who's policies fall into the 'More' category.
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