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What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2018, 7:17 am

Canberra Raiders: 2019 Round 1 predicted team

NRL.com's predicted Round 1 team:

1. Jack Wighton
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Aidan Sezer
7. Sam Williams
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Ryan Sutton
11. Elliott Whitehead
12. Joe Tapine
13. Josh Papalii

14. Siliva Havili
15. John Bateman
16. Luke Bateman
17. Dunamis Lui

Other squad members: Brad Abbey, Ata Hingano, Royce Hunt, Sebastian Kris, Jack Murchie, Jordan Rapana, Emre Guler

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2018, 7:17 am

I can tell you one thing... John Bateman hasn't been recruited to start on the bench. It is probably not far off...

This is more likely:

1. Jack Wighton
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Aidan Sezer
7. Sam Williams
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. Elliott Whitehead
12. Joe Tapine
13. John Bateman

14. Siliva Havili
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Luke Bateman
17. Dunamis Lui

I wouldn't mind seeing this:

1. Nick Cotric
2. Sebastian Kris
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. Elliott Whitehead
12. Joe Tapine
13. John Bateman

14. Siliva Havili
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Emre Guler
17. Dunamis Lui
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by BigPapa » December 27, 2018, 7:45 am

1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Sezer
7. Williams
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Guler
17. Murchie

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by Dusty » December 27, 2018, 7:52 am

1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker (c)
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Williams
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson (c)
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Guler
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2019: 1. Wighton 2. Cotric 3. Croker (c) 4 Leilua 5. Oldfield (Rapana) 6. Williams 7. Sezer 8. Sutton 9. Hodgson (c) 10. Papalii 11. Tapine 12. Whitehead 13. J.Bateman ----
14. Havili 15. Soliola 16. Guler 17. Lui

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by edwahu » December 27, 2018, 8:31 am

Pretty good guess by NRL.com standards. I think GE has the right side, with Sia and Lui probably swapping and for my own sanity I have to believe that Ricky will pick Guler over L.Bateman.

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Post by Sid » December 27, 2018, 9:06 am

1. New Signing
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. Elliott Whitehead
12. Joe Tapine
13. John Bateman

14. Siliva Havili
15. Emre Guler
16. Luke Bateman
17. Dunamis Lui

18. Ryan Sutton

The hardest to predict is the prop rotations, a fine line between who could be starting and the guy that misses the 17. I'd probably have Luke Bateman as my 18 depending on pre season training.
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by -PJ- » December 27, 2018, 9:08 am

I'll go with Dustys side..

More Guler/Lui..

Less LBateman

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by T_R » December 27, 2018, 9:56 am

I'll take GE's preferred side. We have to try something in the halves.
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by UncleDrew » December 27, 2018, 10:09 am

Luke Bateman should be no where near the 17... Guler over Bateman any day!

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by PigRickman » December 27, 2018, 10:10 am

I think GE’s preferred side is going to end up being the plan B
I absolutely think Stuart is dense enough to think and hope they can run it back with a spine listed in the NRL preview and wait until we’re 6 weeks into a season and try and change on the fly

Hope I’m wrong though. I don’t think moving Wighton is ideal (the ideal move would have been to sack him and replace him with a better spine player) but I’ve seen enough of Sam Williams and poor defensive halves

Even if he kills it in preseason and maybe even starts hot in the season proper. We know where a Sam Williams - Aiden Sezer pairing is ultimately going to land us
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by edwahu » December 27, 2018, 10:28 am

Ricky will probably pull some sort of surprise between now and kick off. If he does what we expect he isn't shoving it in our faces.

Looking back at his round 1 sides
2014 - Jack at 6 and Allwood at center
2015 - Bateman randomly appears on the bench
2016 - No big surprises, except maybe Vaughan off the bench. The named side did have Austin on the bench.
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What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by RTW » December 27, 2018, 11:08 am

I haven’t seen enough of O’hagan to know if he is ready but I do know that Sezer and Williams is not the answer.

I also don’t see Cotric as a fullback so would rather leave Wighton at the back.

1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leila
5. Oldfield
6. O’hagan
7. Sezer
8. Lui
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Bateman
12. Tapine
13. Whitehead

14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Sutton
17. Guler


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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by LP Raider » December 27, 2018, 11:50 am

:lol:
J Bateman on the bench.

We need to play to our strengths which is not in the halves, the rest of the squad is very talented.

Sezer and Williams are serviceable and have enough first grade experience know. Wighton has been supported by the club and its time he repays the faith.

No excuses next year, this team should be striving for top 4.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2018, 12:10 pm

We can't play O'Hagan. He's a development player.
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by RTW » December 27, 2018, 12:48 pm

greeneyed wrote:We can't play O'Hagan. He's a development player.
Upgrade him to a full contract. We don’t win the comp with Sezer and Williams in the halves. Play the kid and get him 20 odd games under his belt.

What’s the worst that can happen? We finish 12th instead of 10th.


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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by simo » December 27, 2018, 12:51 pm

1 wighton
2 cotric
3 croker
4 bj
5 oldfield
6 whitehead
7 sezer
8 papali
9 hodgson
10 soliola
11 bateman
12 murchie
13 tapine
14 haviili
15 sutton
16 guler
17 that ranga bloke because f it
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by edwahu » December 27, 2018, 1:29 pm

RTW wrote:
December 27, 2018, 12:48 pm
greeneyed wrote:We can't play O'Hagan. He's a development player.
Upgrade him to a full contract. We don’t win the comp with Sezer and Williams in the halves. Play the kid and get him 20 odd games under his belt.

What’s the worst that can happen? We finish 12th instead of 10th.


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His defense isn't great in his own age group and was woeful in the Under 20's Origin. It would be worse than Williams in first grade.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by Matt » December 27, 2018, 1:40 pm

For once, the NRL tipsters are actually pretty close.

The 17 is very close, just switch L. Bateman and Guler. And, add Horsbough to the extended bench.

I agree with the concensus, all 4 of our international backrowers will start. The Q is, how do they line up? IMO, I see Ricky running with Smelly at 13. However, Id rather see our 2 big bodies, Papa and Tarpz in the middle, with the very mobile Poms on the edges.

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Post by Green eyed Mick » December 27, 2018, 3:11 pm

My sense is Ricky will be hoping on the changes in the forward pack being the difference. Like most I think Bateman will start, probably at lock with Papa wearing the number 8 or 10.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by RedRaider » December 27, 2018, 3:40 pm

Dusty wrote:
December 27, 2018, 7:52 am
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker (c)
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Williams
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson (c)
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Guler
I would start with Lui and have Sutton on the bench, but other than that, I think you have it right Dusty. (Pending any signings we are unaware of).

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2018, 3:46 pm

Yes, I don't think Sutton starts until he gets into the groove of the NRL. He wasn't starting in Super League and he's still pretty young.
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by Seiffert82 » December 27, 2018, 4:09 pm

Sutton isn't starting. Not a snowflakes chance. Lui will be starting up front and Soliola gives us experience off the bench.

With Rapana out, moving Wighton out of fullback is a bad idea. He was arguably the form fullback in the comp before getting his marching orders. Stuart would be nuts to move him and put some numpty back there in a vain attempt to plug a defensive hole in the halves.

Sezer is a serviceable defender in the halves. Williams is no worse than Austin at his shirt grabbing, run out of the line worst. Defend John Bateman alongside Williams and make sure they communicate. Wighton is there as a last line both sides of the field.

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Post by -PJ- » December 27, 2018, 4:16 pm

Jacks stays at #1 I reckon.

Weakening the fullback position is a bad bad idea.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by LP Raider » December 27, 2018, 5:37 pm

I don't care what number they wear on their back, just get the best 17.

I rate J Bateman he is a winner and will make a big impact.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by RedRaider » December 27, 2018, 6:42 pm

greeneyed wrote:
December 27, 2018, 12:10 pm
We can't play O'Hagan. He's a development player.
It depends on the injury status of players in our squad,

'Currently clubs must apply for special dispensation to add a development player to their first grade squad, typically an injury crisis that sees them lose all other options in that select player's position.' (Quote from Dan Walsh, NRL.com reporter on 10/8/18).

We start the season with Hingano out injured. That leaves us light in the No.7 position. Hopefully our halves perform well and stay healthy.

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Post by PigRickman » December 27, 2018, 6:47 pm

Yeah i think Sutton is a prime candidate to get that VINTAGE Stuart middle third garbage stuff at the end of a game to see how he handles it.
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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2018, 7:00 pm

RedRaider wrote:
December 27, 2018, 6:42 pm
greeneyed wrote:
December 27, 2018, 12:10 pm
We can't play O'Hagan. He's a development player.
It depends on the injury status of players in our squad,

'Currently clubs must apply for special dispensation to add a development player to their first grade squad, typically an injury crisis that sees them lose all other options in that select player's position.' (Quote from Dan Walsh, NRL.com reporter on 10/8/18).

We start the season with Hingano out injured. That leaves us light in the No.7 position. Hopefully our halves perform well and stay healthy.
But with Aidan Sezer and Sam Williams fit for Round 1, there is Buckley's and none of the NRL agreeing to allowing a development player playing NRL. Though as I recall, it is easier after half way through the season. But if there are two experienced halves fit... even if not and there's a stop gap NRL player who could take the role (Wighton, Whitehead etc), a development player won't get approval to play.
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Post by Seiffert82 » December 27, 2018, 10:05 pm

Anyone suggesting Stuart will start a kid in lieu of Williams in the halves is in fairyland.

Wighton may have been an option at 6 if Rapa was fit, or if we had a vaguely serviceable replacement at fullback, which in our system is arguably the second most important position on the field outside dummy half. That's not the case, so shifting Wighton would be a bad idea IMO.

Rooting the back 3 in a vain attempt to get a 10% improvement in defence in the halves is crazy. Just surround Williams with half decent defenders and make sure he holds his line, unlike Austin.

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Post by Matt » December 28, 2018, 10:20 am

Pigman wrote:
December 27, 2018, 6:47 pm
Yeah i think Sutton is a prime candidate to get that VINTAGE Stuart middle third garbage stuff at the end of a game to see how he handles it.
While I think its possible, as an English A player, i really really hope not. Esp as the last 2 England A guys we bought are named Hodgson and Whitehead.

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Post by Matt » December 28, 2018, 10:22 am

Seiffert82 wrote:
December 27, 2018, 10:05 pm
Anyone suggesting Stuart will start a kid in lieu of Williams in the halves is in fairyland.

Wighton may have been an option at 6 if Rapa was fit, or if we had a vaguely serviceable replacement at fullback, which in our system is arguably the second most important position on the field outside dummy half. That's not the case, so shifting Wighton would be a bad idea IMO.

Rooting the back 3 in a vain attempt to get a 10% improvement in defence in the halves is crazy. Just surround Williams with half decent defenders and make sure he holds his line, unlike Austin.
That IS/WAS the difference between the 2 in defense

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by PigRickman » December 28, 2018, 11:13 am

Sam Williams can hold his line all he likes
There is going to be 2-3 times every game where he’s going to get isolated on the goal line 1 on 1. Even bad halves can do that a few times a game

And unless we can trust Sam Williams to hold up and consistently make stops every game, the problems in defence are going to continue. If Sam Williams is surrendering tries regularly, we’ve seen that even the second best attack in the game won’t compensate for that
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Post by Wiki Special » December 28, 2018, 11:32 am

Wighton
Croker (c)
Cotric
Leilua
Oldfield
Whitehead
Sezer
Soliola
Hodgson (c)
Lui
Tapine
J. Bateman
Papalii

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by greeneyed » December 28, 2018, 12:22 pm

I don't really see the point of putting Cotric at centre. If we're going to shift him... I'd rather it was to fullback... He's talented enough to become a top fullback IMO. And you put your best players in the key positions.

Also... Whitehead can be an emergency five eighth during a match... but he can't play there full time IMO.
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Post by Wiki Special » December 28, 2018, 12:54 pm

greeneyed wrote:
December 28, 2018, 12:22 pm
I don't really see the point of putting Cotric at centre. If we're going to shift him... I'd rather it was to fullback... He's talented enough to become a top fullback IMO. And you put your best players in the key positions.

Also... Whitehead can be an emergency five eighth during a match... but he can't play there full time IMO.
I agree regarding Whitehead as a fulltime 6 but this is about our team for Round 1. I think it would be unfair to start J. Bateman and Sutton anywhere but their preferred positions while they find their feet in the NRL. Remembering Whitehead in his first few rounds I think it would not be in the best interests of J. Bateman to play him in the middle during the hottest part of the season.

I also think Wighton may end up at 6 this year but after missing so much football I think starting him in a familiar position will benefit his reintegration. As for Cotric at fullback, I won't say he can't make a fist of it. I actually thought his future may lay there at one point last season but his passing game is a very long way off cutting it as an NRL fullback. His best attribute is his hole running. Centre will always be his best position, I feel it is time to bite the bullet and move him there permanently. Croker will be just as good on a wing for us - I kind of feel this potential move played a part in the coach making Hodgson co-captain.

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Re: What's your predicted Round 1 2019 team?

Post by Matt » December 28, 2018, 1:29 pm

Pigman wrote:
December 28, 2018, 11:13 am
Sam Williams can hold his line all he likes
There is going to be 2-3 times every game where he’s going to get isolated on the goal line 1 on 1. Even bad halves can do that a few times a game

And unless we can trust Sam Williams to hold up and consistently make stops every game, the problems in defence are going to continue. If Sam Williams is surrendering tries regularly, we’ve seen that even the second best attack in the game won’t compensate for that
Yes, Sammy will get steam rolled a few times this yr.

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