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2018 Finals Week 2: Teams and Game Day

Sharks vs Panthers
Friday, 7:50pm, Allianz Stadium

Sharks: 1. Valentine Holmes 2. Sosaia Feki 3. Josh Dugan 4. Ricky Leutele 5. Edrick Lee 6. Matt Moylan 7. Chad Townsend 8. Andrew Fifita 9. Jayden Brailey 10. Matt Prior 11. Luke Lewis 12. Scott Sorensen 13. Paul Gallen

Interchange: 14. Kurt Capewell 15. James Segeyaro 16. Aaron Woods 17. Jayson Bukuya
Reserves: 18. Jesse Ramien 19. Ava Seumanufagai 20. Joseph Paulo 21. Kyle Flanagan

Panthers: 1. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 2. Josh Mansour 3. Waqa Blake 4. Tyrone Peachey 5. Christian Crichton 6. James Maloney 7. Nathan Cleary 8. Trent Merrin 9. Sione Katoa 10. Reagan Campbell-Gillard 11. Viliame Kikau 12. Isaah Yeo 13. James Fisher-Harris

Interchange: 14. Tyrone May 15. Moses Leota 16. Corey Harawira-Naerea 17. James Tamou
Reserves: 18. Wayde Egan 19. Jack Hetherington 20. Kaide Ellis 21. Tyrone Phillips

Rabbitohs vs Dragons
Saturday, 7:50pm, ANZ Stadium

Rabbitohs: 1. Alex Johnston 2. Campbell Graham 3. Greg Inglis 4. Dane Gagai 5. Robert Jennings 6. Cody Walker 7. Adam Reynolds 8. Thomas Burgess 9. Damien Cook 10. Goerge Burgess 11. John Sutton 12. Angus Crichton 13. Sam Burgess

Interchange: 14. Hymel Hunt 15. Cameron Murray 16. Jason Clark 17. Dean Britt
Reserves: 18. Braidon Burns 19. Tyrell Fuimaono 20. Junior Tatola 21. Matt McIlwrick

Dragons: 1. Matt Dufty 2. Nene Macdonald 3. Zac Lomax 4. Tim Lafai 5. Jordan Pereria 6. Kurt Mann 7. Ben Hunt 8. James Graham 9. Cam McInnes 10. Leeson Ah Mau 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Tariq Sims 13. Jack de Belin

Interchange: 14. Jeremy Latimore 15. Hame Sele 16. Blake Lawrie 17. Luciano Leilua Reserves: 18. Jason Nightingale 19. Jai Field 20. Euan Aitken 21. Jacob Host

2018
SF Sharks - Panthers
Rd 18 Panthers 12 - Sharks 24
Rd 7 Sharks 26 - Panthers 22
2017
Rd 7 Panthers 2 - Sharks 28
2016
Rd 18 Panthers 10 - Sharks 26
Rd 8 Sharks 20 - Panthers 18
2015
Rd 8 Panthers 26 - Sharks 18
2014
Rd 20 Panthers 16 - Sharks 18
Rd 8 Sharks 24 - Panthers 20
2013
Rd 20 Sharks 38 - Panthers 10
2012
Rd 21 Sharks 20 - Panthers 21
Rd 5 Panthers 14 - Sharks 15
2011
Rd 3 Panthers 12 - Sharks 44
2010
Rd 26 Panthers 50 - Sharks 12
Rd 10 Sharks 14 - Panthers 34
2009
Rd 10 Panthers 26 - Sharks 22
Rd 1 Sharks 18 - Panthers 10
2008
Rd 13 Panthers 22 - Sharks 24
Rd 6 Sharks 20 - Panthers 21
2007
Rd 1 Sharks 18 - Panthers 0

2018
SF Rabbits - Dragons
Rd 10 Rabbits 24 - Dragons 10
Rd 5 Dragons 16 - Rabbits 12
2017
Rd 22 Dragons 24 - Rabbits 26
2016
Rd 11 Rabbits 34 - Dragons 24
Rd 3 Dragons 8 - Rabbits 6
2015
Rd 19 Dragons 8 - Rabbits 24
Rd 9 Rabbits 16 - Dragons 10
2014
Rd 12 Rabbits 29 - Dragons 10
Rd 5 Dragons 6 - Rabbits 26
2013
Rd 19 Rabbits 18 - Dragons 22
2012
R2 20 Rabbits 36 - Dragons 14
Rd 11 Dragons 18 - Rabbits 19 (GP)
2011
Rd 21 Dragons 24 - Rabbits 34
Rd 6 Rabbits 0 - Dragons 16
2010
Rd 26 Dragons 38 - Rabbits 24
Rd 19 Rabbits 13 - Dragons 16
2009
Rd 25 Rabbits 41 - Dragons 6
2008
Rd 12 Rabbits 12 - Dragons 26
2007
Rd 22 Dragons 14 - Rabbits 24

I think the Sharks will be too good but I will be hoping the Panthers can win.

Between a rock and a hard place choosing between these two.

The Sharks coach should have been banned for life from rugby league for his part in the Sharks' doping scandal, the captain and Wade Graham... should have spent four years on the sideline for it. They're a dirty club.

Then there's the Panthers and Gould...

The Storm organisation deserved a harsher penalty too, but we've gone over this and it's as tedious as your argument with the Sharks.

Anyway still love you GE.

Looks a pretty ordinary crowd for such a big game.

The Storm penalty couldn't have been much harsher gerg! Two stripped premierships, three stripped minor premierships, World Club Challenge title stripped, disqualified from all competition points in 2010, $1.7 million fine. No other club has received harsher penalty. What else did you want?!

But still love you too gerg!

Very ordinary crowd. Lucky you crack 30k

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It is difficult to get to the SFS, it's difficult to travel anywhere in Sydney. But it is two Sydney teams... and Week 2 of the finals... two games off a Grand Final. It is poor.

Yeah Sydney is not friendly for sporting events.
Still a crap crowd though.
AFL had what, 2 crowds over 90k last week?

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At a place that is a piece of piss to get to

You can walk from basically anywhere in the CBD area

It's why people who claim Sydney > Melbourne are deluded

Panthers fans won't travel to the sfs on a Friday night tho.

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greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:02 pm The Storm penalty couldn't have been much harsher gerg! Two stripped premierships, three stripped minor premierships, World Club Challenge title stripped, disqualified from all competition points in 2010, $1.7 million fine. No other club has received harsher penalty. What else did you want?!

But still love you too gerg!

Cheating on that scale is just as bad as the doping scandal. If you think a 4 year ban for the Sharks players and lifetime ban for Flanagan is acceptable then why shouldn't it be similar for Storm?

Sharks completely schooling them.

Thats a pretty clear strip from Tamou on Gallen.

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:16 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:02 pm The Storm penalty couldn't have been much harsher gerg! Two stripped premierships, three stripped minor premierships, World Club Challenge title stripped, disqualified from all competition points in 2010, $1.7 million fine. No other club has received harsher penalty. What else did you want?!

But still love you too gerg!

Cheating on that scale is just as bad as the doping scandal. If you think a 4 year ban for the Sharks players and lifetime ban for Flanagan is acceptable then why shouldn't it be similar for Storm?

There is nothing worse than doping IMO. There is a strict world drug policy... it is supposed to be strict liability for individual athletes etc... and somehow the NRL managed a three game ban for a four year offence! Now that is ridiculous! That was the standard applying at the time.

Now if you want to make breaches of the salary cap subject to similar penalties, fine. But you can't do it retrospectively. That's crazy! And not only that... the NRL cleared the individuals concerned (coach and players) in the case of the Storm. So I can't see your argument gerg.

I'm starting to think secretly, you love Shane Flanagan and Paul Gallen and maybe Andrew Fifita!

Cheatings cheating

Only difference is the sharks put players lives at risk

-TW- wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:24 pm Cheatings cheating

Only difference is the sharks put players lives at risk

So the Sharks = Storm then?

Every time I look up, the Sharks are scoring. They are such a despicable team. And by the way... they've admitted to salary cap cheating this year too!

Maloney looks like he couldn't give a ****. Maybe the rumours of them trying to offload him to the Titans are true?

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:22 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:16 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:02 pm The Storm penalty couldn't have been much harsher gerg! Two stripped premierships, three stripped minor premierships, World Club Challenge title stripped, disqualified from all competition points in 2010, $1.7 million fine. No other club has received harsher penalty. What else did you want?!

But still love you too gerg!

Cheating on that scale is just as bad as the doping scandal. If you think a 4 year ban for the Sharks players and lifetime ban for Flanagan is acceptable then why shouldn't it be similar for Storm?

There is nothing worse than doping IMO. There is a strict world drug policy... it is supposed to be strict liability for individual athletes etc... and somehow the NRL managed a three game ban for a four year offence! Now that is ridiculous! That was the standard applying at the time.

Now if you want to make breaches of the salary cap subject to similar penalties, fine. But you can't do it retrospectively. That's crazy! And not only that... the NRL cleared the individuals concerned (coach and players) in the case of the Storm. So I can't see your argument gerg.

I'm starting to think secretly, you love Shane Flanagan and Paul Gallen and maybe Andrew Fifita!

Maybe if the penalty for salary cap cheating was harsher we wouldn't have a salary cap issue every single season?

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:31 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:22 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:16 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:02 pm The Storm penalty couldn't have been much harsher gerg! Two stripped premierships, three stripped minor premierships, World Club Challenge title stripped, disqualified from all competition points in 2010, $1.7 million fine. No other club has received harsher penalty. What else did you want?!

But still love you too gerg!

Cheating on that scale is just as bad as the doping scandal. If you think a 4 year ban for the Sharks players and lifetime ban for Flanagan is acceptable then why shouldn't it be similar for Storm?

There is nothing worse than doping IMO. There is a strict world drug policy... it is supposed to be strict liability for individual athletes etc... and somehow the NRL managed a three game ban for a four year offence! Now that is ridiculous! That was the standard applying at the time.

Now if you want to make breaches of the salary cap subject to similar penalties, fine. But you can't do it retrospectively. That's crazy! And not only that... the NRL cleared the individuals concerned (coach and players) in the case of the Storm. So I can't see your argument gerg.

I'm starting to think secretly, you love Shane Flanagan and Paul Gallen and maybe Andrew Fifita!

Maybe if the penalty for salary cap cheating was harsher we wouldn't have a salary cap issue every single season?

Maybe you should be arguing for an increase in the salary cap penalty in this case? Rather than the Storm receiving more penalty than they did? And it is by far the toughest ever salary cap penalty... much worse than the one imposed on the Raiders.

BTW... the Sharks were not only rewarded with minimal drug suspensions, well below what are supposed to be strict liability penalties under the WADA code... they were then promptly rewarded with a premiership! The Sharks received virtually no penalty... and they were then rewarded with a premiership!

ASADA had no evidence IMO.

Sharks dominating all facets of the game so far.

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:44 pm ASADA had no evidence IMO.

Sharks dominating all facets of the game so far.

So why did the players plead guilty? They admitted to being drug cheats. They are self admitted drug cheats. Paul Gallen is a drug cheat. Wade Graham is a drug cheat. The Cronulla Sharks are drug cheats.

The only benefit of hating all the teams in the finals is that every weekend there’s the fun of watching some of them burn.

Suck it Gould.

Panthers have been like this for two years. Whenever they face a side who can hold it together for 80 minutes they struggle.

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:46 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:44 pm ASADA had no evidence IMO.

Sharks dominating all facets of the game so far.

So why did the players plead guilty? They admitted to being drug cheats. They are self admitted drug cheats. Paul Gallen is a drug cheat. Wade Graham is a drug cheat. The Cronulla Sharks are drug cheats.

We've been over all this before.

If that's a raiders player would that be awarded a try?

gergreg wrote:If that's a raiders player would that be awarded a try?

I was actually thinking the same thing about a couple of disallowed tries we had that were very similar, if not better grounding.

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 9:02 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:46 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:44 pm ASADA had no evidence IMO.

Sharks dominating all facets of the game so far.

So why did the players plead guilty? They admitted to being drug cheats. They are self admitted drug cheats. Paul Gallen is a drug cheat. Wade Graham is a drug cheat. The Cronulla Sharks are drug cheats.

We've been over all this before.

But it is fun every time!

So whats this big Cam Smith news???


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greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 9:09 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 9:02 pm

greeneyed wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:46 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 8:44 pm ASADA had no evidence IMO.

Sharks dominating all facets of the game so far.

So why did the players plead guilty? They admitted to being drug cheats. They are self admitted drug cheats. Paul Gallen is a drug cheat. Wade Graham is a drug cheat. The Cronulla Sharks are drug cheats.

We've been over all this before.

But it is fun every time!

We usually end up in the same place every time. You come across as a Gallen hating shill and I talk common sense.

roneel78 wrote: ↑September 14, 2018, 9:16 pm So whats this big Cam Smith news???


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Surely News Ltd will wait til next week?

Panthers with all the momentum now

This is going to be hilarious! Drug cheats lose!