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Canberra Raiders legend Mal Meninga shortlisted for Immortals

Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 6:42 pm

Canberra Raiders legend Mal Meninga shortlisted for Immortals - NRL 360 on Fox League

If he’s not one of the next two, with Dally Messenger, there’s something very wrong!
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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 6:53 pm

Other nominees:

Ron Coote
Dally Messenger
Ken Irvine
Dave Brown
Frank Burge
Brian Bevan
Norm Provan
Duncan Hall
Darren Lockyer

Plus Meninga, that’s the complete list.
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Post by Dusty » June 20, 2018, 7:05 pm

It’s going to be a tough spot to get...

One would assume Dally Messenger has one spout sewn up


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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 7:09 pm

Dusty wrote:
June 20, 2018, 7:05 pm
It’s going to be a tough spot to get...

One would assume Dally Messenger has one spout sewn up


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Post by Dusty » June 20, 2018, 7:10 pm

greeneyed wrote:
Dusty wrote:
June 20, 2018, 7:05 pm
It’s going to be a tough spot to get...

One would assume Dally Messenger has one spout sewn up


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Sorry for my laziness and slight ignorance in some cases, so who does that pit Mal against??


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Post by -TW- » June 20, 2018, 7:17 pm

Coote Provan Irvine and Bevan are post war
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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 7:17 pm

Dusty wrote:
June 20, 2018, 7:10 pm
greeneyed wrote:
Dusty wrote:
June 20, 2018, 7:05 pm
It’s going to be a tough spot to get...

One would assume Dally Messenger has one spout sewn up


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One reserved for pre War, one for post War.
Sorry for my laziness and slight ignorance in some cases, so who does that pit Mal against??


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They’re still being announced on NRL 360. The list above updates...

So far Ken Irvine, Ron Coote, Brian Bevan, Norm Provan and Duncan Hall I believe. Some of those cross periods.
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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 7:23 pm

And now Darren Lockyer. He’s the toughest competition for Meninga due to recency and halves bias.
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Post by Dusty » June 20, 2018, 7:25 pm

My order

Mal
Provan
Lockyer
Irvine
bevan
Coote


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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 7:27 pm

Meninga and Messenger are the greatest figures in the game not so far on the list for mine. There’s time for Lockyer in future, along with a player like Dave Brown.
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Post by Dusty » June 20, 2018, 7:30 pm

greeneyed wrote:Meninga and Messenger are the greatest figures in the game not so far on the list for mine. There’s time for Lockyer in future, along with a player like Dave Brown.
Agreed,
My list was weighing up Mal’s direct opposition in this regard


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Post by edwahu » June 20, 2018, 7:33 pm

I don't think the existing immortals get a vote anymore which should help Mal.

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Post by greeneyed » June 20, 2018, 7:40 pm

Immortals shortlist revealed: 10 legends in line for ultimate honour

With the countdown on to the naming of rugby league's ninth Immortal in August, the NRL has released a shortlist of candidates to join Reg Gasnier, Clive Churchill, John Raper, Bob Fulton, Graeme Langlands, Wally Lewis, Arthur Beetson and Andrew Johns in the game's most exclusive club. All 10 were great champions and all are worthy of the honour.

The candidates are Dally Messenger [1908-1913], Frank Burge [1911-1927], Dave Brown [1930-1941], Brian Bevan [1942-1964], Duncan Hall [1945-1957], Norm Provan [1951-1965], Ken Irvine [1958-1973], Ron Coote [1964-1978], Mal Meninga [1979-1994], Darren Lockyer [1995-2011].

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Post by RedRaider » June 20, 2018, 8:02 pm

The value of a bloke like Messenger in establishing the code of Rugby League should be recognised as a Foundation Immortal. Outside any others who came later this man should be an Immortal. The accolades for yearly performance are named after him as the Dally M's. Pick another two after him but he should be there already. Why is there this self imposed limit of 2 in the next round anyway? Who is responsible for that decision - please don't tell me Ashley Klein was involved :D

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Post by Lui_Bon » June 20, 2018, 9:11 pm

After watching the show I couldn't help but think that Mal is just Dave Brown v2. Brian Bevan's efforts are just out of this world. Ken Irvine is like a slightly less monumental Bevan.

Ron Coote stacked up pretty well. Possibly he had a knack for playing in great teams!

More than anything it showed that Andrew Johns would barely have made that list of ten. I still say the entire concept should have been put to pasture - it's corrupt bollocks. Just have a Hall of Fame and a Legends section and shove off the port promotion. Frankly the idiocy of it all has me second-guessing if Raper and Gasnier were really that good - and it shouldn't. Plus I detest Fulton.
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Post by BJ » June 20, 2018, 10:40 pm

Mal appeared in 6 Grand Finals at Brisbane Souths and 5 with Raiders. That’s an unbelievable record when you factor in his Representative performances as well.

These were Two weak clubs before and after his time with them. He made players perform better when he was in the team.

He should be a lay down for the position. You can’t have Lewis solely representing the 80s to mid 90s period.

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Post by Johno » June 20, 2018, 10:44 pm

RedRaider wrote:
June 20, 2018, 8:02 pm
The value of a bloke like Messenger in establishing the code of Rugby League should be recognised as a Foundation Immortal. Outside any others who came later this man should be an Immortal. The accolades for yearly performance are named after him as the Dally M's. Pick another two after him but he should be there already. Why is there this self imposed limit of 2 in the next round anyway? Who is responsible for that decision - please don't tell me Ashley Klein was involved :D
Klein would peruse the list 27 times then award it to Russell Fairfax

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Post by edwahu » June 21, 2018, 9:50 am

BJ wrote:
June 20, 2018, 10:40 pm
Mal appeared in 6 Grand Finals at Brisbane Souths and 5 with Raiders. That’s an unbelievable record when you factor in his Representative performances as well.

These were Two weak clubs before and after his time with them. He made players perform better when he was in the team.

He should be a lay down for the position. You can’t have Lewis solely representing the 80s to mid 90s period.
He also did the same at St Helens where he won a comp and is regarded in the UK by many as the best import in history.

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Post by dubby » June 21, 2018, 10:04 am

Mal has to be there
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Post by woppadingo » June 21, 2018, 1:46 pm

Add to that he captained the invincibles and led QLD to 10 Origin victories over 11 years.

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Post by hrundi89 » June 21, 2018, 4:44 pm

woppadingo wrote:
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Add to that he captained the invincibles and led QLD to 10 Origin victories over 11 years.
No he didn't. Max Krilich as captain with Wally Vice Captain.
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Post by woppadingo » June 21, 2018, 4:46 pm

Maybe it was something else I was thinking of. Or im getting old

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Post by Greedysmurf » June 21, 2018, 5:58 pm

Lui_Bon wrote:
June 20, 2018, 9:11 pm
More than anything it showed that Andrew Johns would barely have made that list of ten.
Johns getting a spot ahead of Meninga was a farce.

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I still say the entire concept should have been put to pasture - it's corrupt bollocks.
Couldn’t agree more, when RLW folded the NRL should have just buried their list and created a new Hall of Fame from scratch.

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Post by -TW- » June 21, 2018, 6:51 pm

I don't really know why there needs to be a level above the hall of fame

In most other sports that's your pinnacle

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Post by RedRaider » June 21, 2018, 7:11 pm

Johno wrote:
June 20, 2018, 10:44 pm
RedRaider wrote:
June 20, 2018, 8:02 pm
The value of a bloke like Messenger in establishing the code of Rugby League should be recognised as a Foundation Immortal. Outside any others who came later this man should be an Immortal. The accolades for yearly performance are named after him as the Dally M's. Pick another two after him but he should be there already. Why is there this self imposed limit of 2 in the next round anyway? Who is responsible for that decision - please don't tell me Ashley Klein was involved :D
Klein would peruse the list 27 times then award it to Russell Fairfax
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Post by greeneyed » June 21, 2018, 7:45 pm

Should Canberra Raiders legend Mal Meninga be the next NRL Immortal?

Canberra Raiders legend Mal Meninga would much rather pick his next Australian team than whittle the 10 nominees down to the next two NRL Immortals. Humbled, honoured, excited, hopeful, proud. They're just some of the feelings Meninga had when he heard he was one of the select 10, but expectation and envy weren't among them.

"The 12 people that've got to make that decision, it's not an easy decision so I don't envy them. It'd be a hard task I would imagine.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/ ... 4zmtv.html
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