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Post by bonehead » May 3, 2018, 11:51 am

Bits and pieces of discussion in multiple threads so here's a general one.

Back 5 - fairly settled.
The variable really is Wighton but I think with Oldfield, Ravalawa and Kris that's ok.

Halves - Only Hingano and Sammy currently signed?
Sezer priority.

Pack is the big one.
L Bateman, Lui sound like they will be here.
Sia on current form.
Tapine & Whitehead.

rumours on Sutton & J Bateman.

fringe guys Knight, Horsburgh, Guler, Hala, Murchie.

Hookers Hodgson and Havilii

I think we are a big prop, minutes prop short and maybe a 6.

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Post by zim » May 3, 2018, 12:03 pm

Definitely a 6 I'd say and either 2019 or 2020 we want to be signing a big fish if possible. Munster / Norman.
For wing, I said it in the other post, but I think if we are going the Oldfield route he needs genuine competition to push him and keep him honest. Ken Sio would not break the bank and has filled in well for newcastle. I like what I've seen from Ravalawa but he still needs more time in reggies.
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Post by LastRaider » May 3, 2018, 12:04 pm

So i think we can agree on the following

1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leluia
5. Rapana
6.
7.
8.
9. Hodgson
10.
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13.

14.
15. Lui
16. Bateman
17.

18. Knight
19. Munchie
20. Hingano
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Post by CJ42 » May 3, 2018, 12:35 pm

On top of our squad now, we need a power prop (I’d look overseas) and a minute eater that can defend.
I’d look to spend some very decent money on a 6.

Cotric
Croker
Wighton
Leilua
Rapana
$$$buy/Hingano
Sezer
Sia
Hodgson
Papalii
Whitehead
Tapine
Bateman

Havili
Knight
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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by Captain Punish » May 3, 2018, 12:37 pm

This team I could get around. I know Cotric has a way to go to prove he is a fullback but if we gave Wighton 6 years to see if he could do it, surely we have 1 to 2 to offer Cotric who is a sublime talent compared to ol Jack Wighton.

1. Cotric
2. Tonumaipea
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Drinkwater
7. Sezer
8. Au Mau
9. Hodgson
10. Glasby
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papalii

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Bateman
17. Knight

Ideally we would have someone capable of first grade football over Bateman but we know he will be here as he is a priorhahahahahahaity sighahahahahning.



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Post by The Nickman » May 3, 2018, 12:51 pm

Oh, no... are we doing this already??
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Post by reptar » May 3, 2018, 12:56 pm

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by Roger Kenworthy » May 3, 2018, 12:56 pm

What has happened to halves being developed through our system? Has there just not been any with perceived first grade talent other than Cornish and Croker recently?

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The Nickman wrote:Oh, no... are we doing this already??
we already were in every thread

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Post by Timbo » May 3, 2018, 2:23 pm

You're all forgetting Gubb. The club will definitely pick up the option if we lose Boyd and Paulo.
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Post by Sid » May 3, 2018, 2:26 pm

It's like the off season has started really early
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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by Finite » May 3, 2018, 5:43 pm

We need a gun #6 and 1 or 2 big minute props. Maybe a utility. All good defenders. Easy :cry:

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by Pigman » May 3, 2018, 7:06 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
May 3, 2018, 12:56 pm
What has happened to halves being developed through our system? Has there just not been any with perceived first grade talent other than Cornish and Croker recently?
The club seems to have scaled back this area of it's operations under the current regime. Or at least i hope it's that, the other answer is the **** hot guy we got to replace Hamo isn't fit to tie Hamo's shoes...

Either way, we have Kris and Murchie in the system who are long term kids. Both very promising... the rest with any hopes are ring ins like Roache and Guler who we've brought in.

It's a real concern for me. Doesn't seem to a pipeline bringing through the elite talents like Papalii, Milford, TPG, Dugan, Carney, Cotric...
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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by greeneyed » May 3, 2018, 7:08 pm

Yes, very concerning. It is sad for the game of rugby league in the region.
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Post by zim » May 3, 2018, 8:05 pm

Captain Punish wrote:This team I could get around. I know Cotric has a way to go to prove he is a fullback but if we gave Wighton 6 years to see if he could do it, surely we have 1 to 2 to offer Cotric who is a sublime talent compared to ol Jack Wighton.

1. Cotric
2. Tonumaipea
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Drinkwater
7. Sezer
8. Au Mau
9. Hodgson
10. Glasby
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papalii

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Bateman
17. Knight

Ideally we would have someone capable of first grade football over Bateman but we know he will be here as he is a priorhahahahahahaity sighahahahahning.



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Tonumaipea is an absolutely terrible first choice winger. I'd much rather promote Oldfield than start Young.

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Post by LastRaider » May 3, 2018, 8:41 pm

Does anyone have an opinion on Hingano being our actual starting number 6 next year. Watching some old reply’s, he is pretty dynamic... might be a nice fit with Sezer

If I was Stuart I would be very tempted to play them together soon to test


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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by kiwi raider » May 3, 2018, 8:43 pm

LastRaider wrote:
May 3, 2018, 8:41 pm
Does anyone have an opinion on Hingano being our actual starting number 6 next year. Watching some old reply’s, he is pretty dynamic... might be a nice fit with Sezer


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I don’t think he’s played enough first grade there for anyone to know really, i’d Like to see him get an extended run there so we can find out

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by greeneyed » May 3, 2018, 9:26 pm

LastRaider wrote:
May 3, 2018, 8:41 pm
Does anyone have an opinion on Hingano being our actual starting number 6 next year. Watching some old reply’s, he is pretty dynamic... might be a nice fit with Sezer

If I was Stuart I would be very tempted to play them together soon to test


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I'm not expecting him to make it in firsts. The Warriors wouldn't have let him go otherwise.
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Post by Matt » May 4, 2018, 12:00 pm

Please checkout the scout thread too

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Post by Dusty » May 4, 2018, 6:52 pm

I love speculating, so I will. I’d like to see something like this in 2019

1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Norman
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Boyd
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papalii

14. Havili
15. J.Bateman
16. Lui
17. Knight



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2018: 1. Wighton 2. Cotric 3. Croker (c) 4. Leiluia 5. Rapana 6. Austin 7. Sezer 8. Paulo 9. Garvey 10. Boyd 11. Papalii 12. Tapine 13. Whitehead ----
14. Williams 15. Soliola 16. Knight 17. Gubb

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Post by EVH » May 4, 2018, 9:43 pm

Pigman wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
May 3, 2018, 12:56 pm
What has happened to halves being developed through our system? Has there just not been any with perceived first grade talent other than Cornish and Croker recently?
The club seems to have scaled back this area of it's operations under the current regime. Or at least i hope it's that, the other answer is the **** hot guy we got to replace Hamo isn't fit to tie Hamo's shoes...

Either way, we have Kris and Murchie in the system who are long term kids. Both very promising... the rest with any hopes are ring ins like Roache and Guler who we've brought in.

It's a real concern for me. Doesn't seem to a pipeline bringing through the elite talents like Papalii, Milford, TPG, Dugan, Carney, Cotric...
We relied way too heavy on the development pipeline for too long and it only brought us heartbreak after heartbreak, it simply just doesn’t work anymore. If locals like Dugan, Cotric, Campo, Vaughn ect come though then hey great, but screw getting a Milford or TPJ just to leave at the first chance they get. Buy buy buy or get burnt ImageThank god we have no association with Souths Logan anymore that really did not work after The Broncos entered the comp and we held on to that for yyyyears. If anything we need our own Canberra region team in the ISC, it could also service the Riverina and all of the South Coast, give country kids a clearer pathway from under 20s to 1st grade, surely having a reserve team 3
Hours away is disruptive


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Post by Pigman » May 5, 2018, 3:33 pm

EVH wrote:
May 4, 2018, 9:43 pm
Pigman wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
May 3, 2018, 12:56 pm
What has happened to halves being developed through our system? Has there just not been any with perceived first grade talent other than Cornish and Croker recently?
The club seems to have scaled back this area of it's operations under the current regime. Or at least i hope it's that, the other answer is the **** hot guy we got to replace Hamo isn't fit to tie Hamo's shoes...

Either way, we have Kris and Murchie in the system who are long term kids. Both very promising... the rest with any hopes are ring ins like Roache and Guler who we've brought in.

It's a real concern for me. Doesn't seem to a pipeline bringing through the elite talents like Papalii, Milford, TPG, Dugan, Carney, Cotric...
We relied way too heavy on the development pipeline for too long and it only brought us heartbreak after heartbreak, it simply just doesn’t work anymore. If locals like Dugan, Cotric, Campo, Vaughn ect come though then hey great, but screw getting a Milford or TPJ just to leave at the first chance they get. Buy buy buy or get burnt ImageThank god we have no association with Souths Logan anymore that really did not work after The Broncos entered the comp and we held on to that for yyyyears. If anything we need our own Canberra region team in the ISC, it could also service the Riverina and all of the South Coast, give country kids a clearer pathway from under 20s to 1st grade, surely having a reserve team 3
Hours away is disruptive


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Some of what you're saying is fair and valid, but just as we've previously relied too heavily on juniors, i fear we're swinging too much the other way. I know there is issues with Souths Logan, but id rather have a shot at guys like Papalii (who is still here btw), TPJ and Milford than not get a shot at them. If we go 1/3 and end up with an australian player, that's not the worst result! :lol:
Agree that we need focus on local riverina kids, but you cant limit yourself and tbph it appears as if RL is ready to abandon the Riverina.
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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by edwahu » May 5, 2018, 3:58 pm

Not much wrong with our current juniors imo. You don't see much of them because 20s is gone but its better than the crop Cotric was playing in.

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by RedRaider » May 6, 2018, 7:05 am

FTR TPJ was not from Souths Logan. He is a Newcastle junior although born in Ashfield, Sydney. But it was a shame when we gave him a FG opportunity he then chose to go to the Broncos.

I know we were developing a link with a Fiji squad to play in Australia. Does anyone know what happened to that?

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Post by greeneyed » May 6, 2018, 7:54 am

The Raiders have set up an Academy in Fiji. We’ve signed juniors this year, playing for Mounties.
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Post by edwahu » May 6, 2018, 9:36 am

RedRaider wrote:
May 6, 2018, 7:05 am
FTR TPJ was not from Souths Logan. He is a Newcastle junior although born in Ashfield, Sydney. But it was a shame when we gave him a FG opportunity he then chose to go to the Broncos.

I know we were developing a link with a Fiji squad to play in Australia. Does anyone know what happened to that?
Which FG opportunity was that?

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Post by zim » May 10, 2018, 1:40 pm

Here you go guys. I've settled the roster for next year. No need to panic. Just a simple matter of PJ making some phone calls.

1. Nick Cotric
2. Michael Oldfield
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Cameron Munster
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Marty Taupau
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. John Bateman
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Joseph Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Luke Bateman
16. Dunamis Lui
17. Sia Soliola

1. Brad Abbey
2. Mikaele Ravalawa
3. Sebastian Kris
4. Tyler Cornish
5. Ken Sio
6. Cooper Bambling
7. Sam Williams (c)
8. Charlie Gubb
9. Cameron King
10. Liam Knight
11. Makahesi Makatoa
12. Jack Murchie
13. Emre Guler

14. Sam Duggan
15. Kalani Going
16. Corey Horsburgh
17. Royce Hunt

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Post by bonehead » May 10, 2018, 1:49 pm

zim wrote:Here you go guys. I've settled the roster for next year. No need to panic. Just a simple matter of PJ making some phone calls.

1. Nick Cotric
2. Michael Oldfield
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Cameron Munster
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Marty Taupau
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. John Bateman
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Joseph Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Luke Bateman
16. Dunamis Lui
17. Sia Soliola

1. Brad Abbey
2. Mikaele Ravalawa
3. Sebastian Kris
4. Tyler Cornish
5. Ken Sio
6. Cooper Bambling
7. Sam Williams (c)
8. Charlie Gubb
9. Cameron King
10. Liam Knight
11. Makahesi Makatoa
12. Jack Murchie
13. Emre Guler

14. Sam Duggan
15. Kalani Going
16. Corey Horsburgh
17. Royce Hunt
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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by Captain Punish » May 10, 2018, 1:53 pm

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by zim » May 10, 2018, 1:56 pm

bonehead wrote:
May 10, 2018, 1:49 pm
Don't rate Sutton, Big Z?
I know nothing about him. I had to sacrifice a few unknowns to move cap elsewhere. You could easily swap things around so Gubb is not there.

It's why in my squad Wighton got the sack and we moved his salary around. Also why Oldfield is starting but there is an ok backup in Sio so they push each other for a spot.

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Post by -PJ- » May 10, 2018, 3:04 pm

zim wrote:
May 10, 2018, 1:40 pm
Here you go guys. I've settled the roster for next year. No need to panic. Just a simple matter of PJ making some phone calls.

1. Nick Cotric
2. Michael Oldfield
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Cameron Munster
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Marty Taupau
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. John Bateman
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Joseph Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Luke Bateman
16. Dunamis Lui
17. Sia Soliola

1. Brad Abbey
2. Mikaele Ravalawa
3. Sebastian Kris
4. Tyler Cornish
5. Ken Sio
6. Cooper Bambling
7. Sam Williams (c)
8. Charlie Gubb
9. Cameron King
10. Liam Knight
11. Makahesi Makatoa
12. Jack Murchie
13. Emre Guler

14. Sam Duggan
15. Kalani Going
16. Corey Horsburgh
17. Royce Hunt
Mate..if I throw that team at Don he'll insist I slap you..

I mean come on now..Munster and Taupau :lol:
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Post by zim » May 10, 2018, 3:19 pm

You can push me out of a plane. You can march me off a cliff. You can send me off to die on some God-forsaken rock. But for some reason you can't slap me. Now apologise boy, right now.

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Post by SeeBee101 » May 10, 2018, 3:53 pm

That team would be sweet. Would love to get all three of J Bateman, Munster and Taupau!!

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Re: 2019 Squad

Post by RedRaider » May 11, 2018, 6:53 am

greeneyed wrote:
May 6, 2018, 7:54 am
The Raiders have set up an Academy in Fiji. We’ve signed juniors this year, playing for Mounties.
Thanks GE. Hopefully a regular supply of gifted players can be developed into FGers for the Raiders.

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