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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by greeneyed » August 8, 2018, 6:47 pm

I'd have Nick Cotric over Moses Mbye in any position on the field, any day!
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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Matt » August 8, 2018, 8:57 pm

greeneyed wrote:
August 8, 2018, 6:47 pm
I'd have Nick Cotric over Moses Mbye in any position on the field, any day!
In the spine, I want Mybe (well... maybe not at his apparent price tag though).
Any other, sure.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Pigman » August 8, 2018, 8:58 pm

If Nic Cotric stipulated he HAS to play fullback and no other position ever, the tigers would trade Mybe for Cotric every day of the week and three times on Sunday.
The List - K.Love, Keno, Zippy's tennis angels, LA Lakers, Noah, Boozer, Lucy's horse tips, Colts, Lucy, Kevin Proctor, Dr Zaius, TR, Tinfoil hatted Gangers & Woody, anyone in Raiders HQ who can point to QBN on a map....

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Edrick Lee 5. Jordan Rapana
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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Matt » August 9, 2018, 8:53 am

Pigman wrote:
August 8, 2018, 8:58 pm
If Nic Cotric stipulated he HAS to play fullback and no other position ever, the tigers would trade Mybe for Cotric every day of the week and three times on Sunday.
:roflmao
Not on what they are paying him

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Pigman » August 9, 2018, 9:05 am

Cotric would be on less money right now than what the Tigers are paying Mybe

Cotric is more talented, objectively a better player right now, is younger and cheaper
I’m telling you now, they’d bury Mybe in the woods and hope the body is never found if they could sign Cotric
The List - K.Love, Keno, Zippy's tennis angels, LA Lakers, Noah, Boozer, Lucy's horse tips, Colts, Lucy, Kevin Proctor, Dr Zaius, TR, Tinfoil hatted Gangers & Woody, anyone in Raiders HQ who can point to QBN on a map....

Matt wrote:
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Edrick Lee 5. Jordan Rapana
Prepare the cannon!

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by zim » August 9, 2018, 10:18 am

Mbye:
750k per year for 4 years. With the bulldogs paying 400k for the first 2.

Just be thankful we didn't sign him for that. Those last 2 years would really hurt.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by reptar » August 9, 2018, 10:19 am

Pigman wrote:Cotric would be on less money right now than what the Tigers are paying Mybe

Cotric is more talented, objectively a better player right now, is younger and cheaper
I’m telling you now, they’d bury Mybe in the woods and hope the body is never found if they could sign Cotric
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Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by gangrenous » August 9, 2018, 6:22 pm

Why is tapatalk quoting not working dammit!

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by gangrenous » August 9, 2018, 11:09 pm

greeneyed wrote:
August 8, 2018, 6:47 pm
I'd have Nick Cotric over Moses Mbye in any position on the field, any day!
Missionary?

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by gangrenous » August 9, 2018, 11:09 pm

Pigman wrote:
August 8, 2018, 8:58 pm
If Nic Cotric stipulated he HAS to play fullback and no other position ever, the tigers would trade Mybe for Cotric every day of the week and three times on Sunday.
Bulldogs would swap Hopoate for Cotric five times on Sunday...

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by RedRaider » August 11, 2018, 7:45 am

Matt, I can't think of a single area of a Rugby League players skill set where Mbye would be better than Nic Cotric. The much predicted 'second year' syndrome simply hasn't happened. Instead he is now in a spine position and doing well there too although still learning.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Matt » August 15, 2018, 4:47 pm

Matt’s Match-ups Rd 23: Raiders V Roosters

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Roosters V Raiders

James Tedesco 1. Brad Abbey
Daniel Tupou 2. Nick Cotric
Latrell Mitchell 3. Elliott Whitehead
Joseph Manu 4. Joseph Leilua
Blake Ferguson 5. Jordan Rapana
Ryan Matterson 6. Blake Austin
Cooper Cronk 7. Sam Williams
Dylan Napa 8. Dunamis Lui
Jake Friend © 9. Josh Hodgson ©
Sio Siua Taukeiaho 10. Shannon Boyd
Boyd Cordner 11. Joseph Tapine
Isaac Liu 12. Sia Soliola
Victor Radley 13. Josh Papalii

Interchange
Nat Butcher 14. Emre Guler
Zane Tetevano 15. Luke Bateman
Mitchell Aubusson 16. Siliva Havili
Sean O’Sullivan 17. Junior Paulo

Extended Bench
Sitili Tupouniua 18. Jack Murchie
Kurt Baptiste 19. Liam Knight
Paul Momirovski 20. Makahesi Makatoa
Lindsay Collins 21. Michael Oldfield

(Bolded players are the winners of the skin. The extended bench is excluded.)

Match-ups:

Fullbacks:
I’m glad to see that Brad Abbey has been named in position at fullback. Hopefully a couple of games on the wing has settled his nerves, and the yips are over. James Tedesco is the best fullback in the game, this isn’t a contest.

Wingers:
Nick Cotric has been named on the wing this week. However, I note that Michael Oldfield is named on the extended bench. So, there might be a game day shuffle on the cards here. I’d much rather see Cotric in the centres, but in that reshuffle, Ricky would inevitably cut the rookie Emre Guler, rather than one of the Raiders' departing players. I suspect if Oldfield plays we will see Brad Abbey out, Oldfield to the wing and Cotric at fullback. Daniel Tupou has been playing great footy, averaging over 150m a game. He only has four tries in his 11 games, but he is playing outside Latrell Mitchell who has 12, so the ball just doesn't need to get to him.

Jordan Rapana is arguably the best winger in the game, however, in 2018 the statistical best goes to Blake Ferguson. No one in the NRL has run for more metres than Ferguson, a massive 3,919m. He also leads the line breaks with 20. Cotric is second with 19, while Rapana is fifth with 16. He is fourth on the tackle bust list, with the Raiders pair at one and two: Cotric, then Rapana. He is also fifth on the try scoring list.

Centres:
Latrell Mitchell is currently the best centre in the game, so poor Elliott Whitehead doesn’t get a look in.

Joseph Manu may be in career best form, and Joseph Leilua may have been sent to the sin bin last week, but this is a no contest. Leilua is producing more good than bad at the moment, and would be right up there with Mitchell on the top centres list.

Halves:
Blake Austin had a couple of brain snaps on the weekend that ultimately cost the Raiders a chance at stealing a win against the Tigers. Even though Ryan Matterson is dealing with concussion related issues, and hasn’t been as effective at five eighth as he was earlier in the year in the back row, he isn’t costing the team games.

Cooper Cronk struggled early in the year for combinations, timing and fitness, but he now has the Roosters on top of the NRL table with only a few weeks left before finals. Sam Williams is still struggling to lead the Raiders' side on a week to week basis.

Prop:
Dunamis Lui has been one of the Raiders' more consistent performers this season, and has certainly earned a starting spot. He is far outplaying his more high profile prop team mates, but that only highlights the Raiders' issues at prop this year. Dylan Napa is only a couple of weeks back from injury, but last week showed his big game awareness and came to the party. He was especially brutal on Tom Burgess, laying a number of big shots on him. Napa’s defence is momentum swinging.

Shannon Boyd put in yet another average performance on the weekend with 63m and 29 tackles. Sio Siua Taukeiaho made more than twice the metres, 137m, and only a few less tackles, 24. This isn’t close.

Nat Butcher hasn’t played NRL footy for a couple of weeks, but he has played this year, and can’t lose to the debutant Emre Guler, soon to be Raider #353.

Luke Bateman is a toiler, and his 80m and 23 tackles were typically workman like in last week’s loss to the Tigers. Zane Tetevano comes off the bench and is explosive. He runs with purpose, and tackles just as hard. You want impact from your bench props, and with an average of 92m and 20 tackles off the bench as a prop you are doing pretty well.

Junior Paulo wins because Sean O’Sullivan has had three consecutive games riding the pine for 80 minutes.

Hooker/utility:
Two of the better hookers in the competition are going head to head here. Both with the captain's armband too. Josh Hodgson’s form is sliding, while Jake Friend’s is starting to rise. However, I’m not willing to call against Hodgson just yet.

Mitchell Aubusson is a perfect utility player. He can play most positions on the field. A jack of all trades, but master of none. Siliva Havili ran harder than most of the Raiders' props last week. I'd name him at prop at the moment. He is playing that well he deserves more game time and credit for a good year.

Backrow:
Joseph Tapine has shown in the last fortnight why the Raiders should leave him on the edge next season. He gave James Maloney no end of trouble, then did a number on the Tigers last week too. Boyd Cordner is the NSW Origin captain, and one of the best edge players in the world, but he isn’t playing like Tapine. This just proves that if he gets the niggle and agro out of his game, Tapine could be anything.

Isaac Liu has been very good for the Roosters in recent weeks. Spending good minutes split between the edge and middle. In fact, he is playing a very similar role to Sia Soliola at the moment. Though it’s been more edge than middle in recent weeks, he has been playing the forward position vacant on any given weekend. You know what you get from Soliola, but its currently less than Liu.

I think Victor Radley would be rookie of the year in 2018 if he was eligible. His development and impact for the Roosters this season has been huge. He is definitely one of the better locks in the competition at the moment. Josh Papalii continues to play good footy, but his start last week was very lazy, with a couple of terrible missed tackles. As his form is still very good, I’ve called this a draw, but he has to keep his standards up.

Result
The tally is Roosters 11, Raiders five and a draw. This looks like a thrashing coming on paper and I expect it.

Result: Roosters to inflict a huge loss (by 18-24).

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by edwahu » August 15, 2018, 5:54 pm

I'd give them Friend & Manu as well. Manu is a great player who gets overlooked for not been Mitchell. BJ is going ok with the ball but defensively he has gone down hill since the start of the year.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by greeneyed » August 15, 2018, 6:04 pm

Can't agree on the wingers, especially Cotric!
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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Matt » August 15, 2018, 7:53 pm

greeneyed wrote:
August 15, 2018, 6:04 pm
Can't agree on the wingers, especially Cotric!
Take the green googles off GE. :P
Tupou has been good, while Cotric struggled at FB.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by greeneyed » August 15, 2018, 7:56 pm

Matt wrote:
August 15, 2018, 7:53 pm
greeneyed wrote:
August 15, 2018, 6:04 pm
Can't agree on the wingers, especially Cotric!
Take the green googles off GE. :P
Tupou has been good, while Cotric struggled at FB.
But, even if I agreed with that, he's been selected at WING!
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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by Matt » August 15, 2018, 8:10 pm

greeneyed wrote:
August 15, 2018, 7:56 pm
Matt wrote:
August 15, 2018, 7:53 pm
greeneyed wrote:
August 15, 2018, 6:04 pm
Can't agree on the wingers, especially Cotric!
Take the green googles off GE. :P
Tupou has been good, while Cotric struggled at FB.
But, even if I agreed with that, he's been selected at WING!
There is the current form argument. Which u r saying u agree with. Even if we took just recent wing games, he wasnt the same without Croker inside him.

Would u believe Tupou avgs 40m more per game?

Cotric has him covered pretty much everywhere else though.

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Re: Matt's Match-ups 2018

Post by greeneyed » August 15, 2018, 8:16 pm

I don't agree on his form at fullback. He's been given virtually no opportunity at fullback in firsts and the decision has been made, it seems.

In any event, I don't think there are better wingers in the competition than Rapana and Cotric. Certainly not Ferguson and what's his name.
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