This post opens the potential for action under 18C.Green eyed Mick wrote:Freedom of speech is not consequence free speech. If you say something that is baseless, discriminatory or hurtful than you have to take the response on the chin.dubby wrote:But we can respect the liberty that allows that person to have an opiniongangrenous wrote:Thing is dubby, some opinions are not worthy of respect.
Jerusalem doesn't belong to Israel. Your comment was historically inaccurate and inflammatory.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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Our old Jew Albi wasn't the slightest bias in his opinions eitherManbush wrote:Even our old resident Jew Albi highlighted how some of the stuff never actually occurred and were just myths like the mass exodus and science backs it up then there’s the whole god gave them the land, a claim as big as that needs to be supported by evidence to have any legitimacy, Hitchens’s razor.dubby wrote:I had a chuckle.Manbush wrote:You can respect the right to an opinion but it doesn’t mean you need to respect said opinion. As I regularly say people deserve respect opinions/ideas/beliefs do not, we never know what experiences have led people to certain views.
Just on the history though I only care about demonstrable history, things that we have evidence for, the Torah and Bible should not come into it unless they can be proven, they’ve been shown to be unreliable.
Your first para is exactly what I've been saying.
Then you finish with a clanger in your last sentence.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Sorry Dubby just having a sneaky jibe, no harm intended. So long as you are (getting) happy and healthy it doesn't matter how it's done. When I was crook a few years back I used naturopathy and tai chi/self healing meditation to get better.dubby wrote:Well that could be considered glib, gerg. But I don't think you're that sort of guy.
I used both faith and medicine. I dont think science replaces faith or vice versa, particularly with medicine.
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Haha true but the evidence supports his bias.dubby wrote:Our old Jew Albi wasn't the slightest bias in his opinions eitherManbush wrote:Even our old resident Jew Albi highlighted how some of the stuff never actually occurred and were just myths like the mass exodus and science backs it up then there’s the whole god gave them the land, a claim as big as that needs to be supported by evidence to have any legitimacy, Hitchens’s razor.dubby wrote:I had a chuckle.Manbush wrote:You can respect the right to an opinion but it doesn’t mean you need to respect said opinion. As I regularly say people deserve respect opinions/ideas/beliefs do not, we never know what experiences have led people to certain views.
Just on the history though I only care about demonstrable history, things that we have evidence for, the Torah and Bible should not come into it unless they can be proven, they’ve been shown to be unreliable.
Your first para is exactly what I've been saying.
Then you finish with a clanger in your last sentence.
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Yeah, I can't say I disagree with too much Albi says about society in general.
He and dubby are almost complete polar opposites.
He and dubby are almost complete polar opposites.
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Btw, Sam Dastyari announced he won’t return to the senate in 2018 today
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Good.Notaroboticfish wrote:Btw, Sam Dastyari announced he won’t return to the senate in 2018 today
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I wonder how many more politicians are on the receiving end of foreign money via Australian registered corporations?
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Probably quite a few. Dastyari was just terrible at covering it up.Green eyed Mick wrote:Good.Notaroboticfish wrote:Btw, Sam Dastyari announced he won’t return to the senate in 2018 today
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If anyone is interested (it's a bit of a read), here's a really good summary of the Israel/Palestine conflict since Israel's formation in 1947 and what Trump's latest decision actually means.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/12/12/expla ... l-matters/
https://newmatilda.com/2017/12/12/expla ... l-matters/
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Took far too long.Notaroboticfish wrote:Btw, Sam Dastyari announced he won’t return to the senate in 2018 today
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Geez reading through that the international community has really sat back and let Israel screw Palestine even more than I realized, I knew it was bad but ****The Nickman wrote:If anyone is interested (it's a bit of a read), here's a really good summary of the Israel/Palestine conflict since Israel's formation in 1947 and what Trump's latest decision actually means.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/12/12/expla ... l-matters/
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I have been to Israel, and spent a very short time relieving there back in the day. It is almost impossible to overstate the unrelieved horrors imposed on the Palestinians in an almost casual but carefully calibrated fashion by the Israelis. Sadly, about the only comparison I can make is with the Nazi occupation of Europe without the Final Solution for the Jews.Manbush wrote:Geez reading through that the international community has really sat back and let Israel screw Palestine even more than I realized, I knew it was bad but ****The Nickman wrote:If anyone is interested (it's a bit of a read), here's a really good summary of the Israel/Palestine conflict since Israel's formation in 1947 and what Trump's latest decision actually means.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/12/12/expla ... l-matters/
That is a bit glib, but you get my point.
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It's pretty horrible stuff, and completely illegal by international law and considered that by the entire international community except for the US.Cranky Old Man wrote:I have been to Israel, and spent a very short time relieving there back in the day. It is almost impossible to overstate the unrelieved horrors imposed on the Palestinians in an almost casual but carefully calibrated fashion by the Israelis. Sadly, about the only comparison I can make is with the Nazi occupation of Europe without the Final Solution for the Jews.Manbush wrote:Geez reading through that the international community has really sat back and let Israel screw Palestine even more than I realized, I knew it was bad but ****The Nickman wrote:If anyone is interested (it's a bit of a read), here's a really good summary of the Israel/Palestine conflict since Israel's formation in 1947 and what Trump's latest decision actually means.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/12/12/expla ... l-matters/
That is a bit glib, but you get my point.
That's why Trump's actions actually legitimise Israel's occupation of East Jerusalem, and have been wholeheartedly condemned by every nation on the planet, as evidenced by this report:
https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/is ... gJh_fD_BwE
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Bermuda may soon be the first in the world to reverse marriage equality: http://www.mambaonline.com/2017/12/12/b ... -6-months/
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In other news, dubby's about to move to Bermuda.
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The guys face is almost as funny as Katter
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****??Manbush wrote:The guys face is almost as funny as Katter
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We already have that title depending on how you define repealing equality...Toviii wrote:Bermuda may soon be the first in the world to reverse marriage equality: http://www.mambaonline.com/2017/12/12/b ... -6-months/
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It's amazing what people will let their government's get away with in the name of national security.
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You just want me to disappearThe Nickman wrote:In other news, dubby's about to move to Bermuda.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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The Royal Commission has released its 21 volume report with 400 recommendations, from the small bits I’ve seen they’ve been particularly harsh on the Catholic Church.
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We're living in a black mirror episode. Best just sit back and enjoy it.Manbush wrote:Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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So have any of you mad shaggers tied the knot under the new legislation yet?
This place is woke.
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That's an Obama legacy, that's been going on since 2014Manbush wrote:Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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The FCC is repealing the Obama era net neutrality laws, Obama tried to protect it from paid prioritisation and throttling of services.-TW- wrote:That's an Obama legacy, that's been going on since 2014Manbush wrote:Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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The Torah especially. Can’t stand her, and Chumpy Pullin for that matterManbush wrote:Just on the history though I only care about demonstrable history, things that we have evidence for, the Torah and Bible should not come into it unless they can be proven, they’ve been shown to be unreliable.
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Ugh, in other news, the FCC won’t let me be. Or let me be me, so let’s just seeManbush wrote:The FCC is repealing the Obama era net neutrality laws, Obama tried to protect it from paid prioritisation and throttling of services.-TW- wrote:That's an Obama legacy, that's been going on since 2014Manbush wrote:Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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Thanks Dr SeussFuifui Bradbrad wrote:Ugh, in other news, the FCC won’t let me be. Or let me be me, so let’s just seeManbush wrote:The FCC is repealing the Obama era net neutrality laws, Obama tried to protect it from paid prioritisation and throttling of services.-TW- wrote:That's an Obama legacy, that's been going on since 2014Manbush wrote:Another Trump legacy, net neutrality is dead.
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Read the headline, said who cares, closed the article
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I read the article. An opinion on someone else's opinion on a topic where people on all sides of the spectrum are struggling for common sense.
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I couldn't get pastthe first paragraph
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Ah America, now threatening countries that don’t vote with them in regards to Israel
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