Ex Raiders... where are they now?

[Billy Walker]

Footy fights are some Boxcar Bob ****

It's all fun and games until they fight a proper boxer then they get the **** beaten out of them

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Generally agree but I am curious to see if Curtis can remain committed to this. He has some skills and a very good build for boxing. I wouldn’t be shocked if his boxing career fizzled out with a loss to some washed up mug but I also think he has a lot of potential.

[bonehead]

Leilua at 120kg was never a hope no matter how good he thought he was

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[Seiffert82]

I feel significantly dumber for reading some of those articles.

Who would want to be an NRL coach? It would be like being a western Sydney public school year 9 maths teacher. Dead set morons the pair of them.

D grade boxing. **** me.

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[dubby]

Joey just embarrassed himself.

[greeneyed]

Immortal Mal Meninga parts ways with Gold Coast Titans

Immortal Mal Meninga has formally severed ties with the Gold Coast Titans following a five-year relationship. Meninga quietly finished up in his role as the club’s high performance consultant over the summer after being frozen out of the decision to sack Justin Holbrook as head coach and appoint Des Hasler. The Titans did not publicly announce Meninga’s departure, but CEO Steve Mitchell confirmed his contract was not renewed.

“That has run its course,” he said.

Read more: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... 27e41deb0e

[RedRaider]

Barry Hall is 47 Jesus.

If he's serious about it, he probably needs to forget the AFL/NRL route and just knuckle down and start working his way through the ranks. 26 is young enough that if he's good enough he can make a career out of boxing. There is always tomato cans in that sport who make a living off getting pounded that he can work his way through and collect some wins as he gets experience

Barry Michael and every other commentator were unanimous in the view that BJ needs to give the gloves away. Not fitness, commitment or style. Just a big wild swinger.

This was a bout between a man of some boxing ability versus a night club bouncer. The boxer wins. I know the promoters trade on names made in other sports, but it does the sport of boxing no good. As for calling out AFL has beens

Maybe Scott should look to take on an older boxer like Troy Harding who can hit and has some ring craft to determine if boxing is for him. He is a long way from Australian champ level but at least he would be in against a boxer. Then he could look to some bouts in Qld. That's where most of the best cruiser weight fighters are based.

https://anbf.org.au/ratings/nationalratings/

[RedRaider]

Immortal Mal Meninga parts ways with Gold Coast Titans

Immortal Mal Meninga has formally severed ties with the Gold Coast Titans following a five-year relationship. Meninga quietly finished up in his role as the club’s high performance consultant over the summer after being frozen out of the decision to sack Justin Holbrook as head coach and appoint Des Hasler. The Titans did not publicly announce Meninga’s departure, but CEO Steve Mitchell confirmed his contract was not renewed.

“That has run its course,” he said.

Read more: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... 27e41deb0e

Mal is now 63 and is the Australian Coach. I wonder what's next for him. To be away from the Titans will mean fewer grey hairs.

[greeneyed]

Raiders grand final hero of '89 running for mayor of Mackay

Canberra Raiders great Steve Jackson has been a grand final hero, a chicken shop owner, and a real estate agent, but now he has his sights set on being the new mayor of Mackay.

"I'm just learning on my feet and I get quite anxious whether I say the right or wrong things, but at the end of the day all my friends say to me - just be you," Jackson said. "That's why people like me ... it's because what they see is what they get, and in the political game there isn't much transparency."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

[Billy Walker]

Raiders grand final hero of '89 running for mayor of Mackay

Canberra Raiders great Steve Jackson has been a grand final hero, a chicken shop owner, and a real estate agent, but now he has his sights set on being the new mayor of Mackay.

"I'm just learning on my feet and I get quite anxious whether I say the right or wrong things, but at the end of the day all my friends say to me - just be you," Jackson said. "That's why people like me ... it's because what they see is what they get, and in the political game there isn't much transparency."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

He’s slightly ahead on the unofficial preliminary count but it’s a close contest with Greg Williamson.

[IBG]

Brad Schneider named halfback for the Panthers with Cleary out for a while.

Be really interesting to see how he goes in a dominant team. I hope he does well.

[julian87]

Brad Schneider named halfback for the Panthers with Cleary out for a while.

Be really interesting to see how he goes in a dominant team. I hope he does well.

I hope he does well too.

[Botman]

Yeah I’m going to be really keen to watch that
Interested in seeing if his passing and processing has sped up. I’m rooting for him, he seems like a really good bloke and that’s a good spot for him to showcase himself

[Seiffert82]

Still reckon he'd be a great lock.

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[President Clinton]

Looking for to seeing him play. Could be a good 14 somewhere.

[Billy Walker]

Brad Schneider named halfback for the Panthers with Cleary out for a while.

Be really interesting to see how he goes in a dominant team. I hope he does well.

He was very very good. All those people questioning if he was a half

[Finchy]

Brad Schneider named halfback for the Panthers with Cleary out for a while.

Be really interesting to see how he goes in a dominant team. I hope he does well.

He was very very good. All those people questioning if he was a half

Yeah, nah. He did his job. Average isn’t the same as very very good. But you wouldn’t know the difference as you think Levi is very very good

[Hong Kong Raider]

Schneider was fine. Calm, made his kicks and tackles and got the right side going with a few tries. Nothing special but he didn't need to be as Edwards, Yeo and Luai were outstanding.

Penrith were excellent and the scoreline looked close but Roosters were well beaten. It was a good game. I like watching wingers that back themselves like Turuva.

[Botman]

He did what was asked of him. His passing and processing was faster so that's a good sign, but for the most part he was what he was here... still needing an early pass. The talent around him is very good and he kicked well and defended well which is really all the panthers need and want in a back up half.
They've got enough talent and a system good enough to let Schnieder do what he did tonight and let Cleary rest through the bye and come back 100%.

[Billy Walker]

Brad Schneider earns rave reviews on his Penrith debut…. Well from good judges anyway

Former Hull KR man Brad Schneider earns rave reviews after Penrith Panthers debut: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/fo ... hers-debut

[Finchy]

Oof, that Aaron Bower (?) really knows his stuff, what a good judge. I'm sure most people have heard of him

[Billy Walker]

You should hear what he says about you.

[Rick]

Was good to see a coach back a young half and not try and shield them from the game….


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[Billy Walker]

Well known NRL reporting site Fox sports describes Schneider’s performance as excellent. And I only said very very good….

Brad Schneider’s Penrith Panthers debut: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 47f351193b

[Finchy]

Oof, that Tom Sargeant (?) really knows his stuff, what a good judge. I'm sure most people have heard of him

Fox Sports is known for their inaccurate lazy click bait reporting, as has been pointed out a fair bit lately on this very forum about the pathetic quality of reporting and analysis on the game.

Hardly the smoking gun you were after Billy. I actually watched the game. Schneider did his job. Nothing spectacular. Nothing for the highlight reel. I’m happy for him, but he wasn’t “very very good”. Cleary was “very very good” or “excellent” last week. There’s a difference.

But again, based on the players you rate, I understand why you can’t accurately rate a player’s performer or skill.

[BJ]

Schneider ‘excellent’ according to rugby league media. But if Nathan Cleary played the identical game they’d say he was quieter than usual and didn’t stamp his authority on the game.

[Billy Walker]

NRL.com with the headline Schneider looking slick…. I sense a theme developing here

Schneider looking slick: https://www.nrl.com/news/2024/03/29/sch ... ing-slick/

[Finchy]

That rugby league reporters are as lazy and delusional as you? I do sense that theme.

[Billy Walker]

Yes Finchy - clearly you are correct and the professionals that get paid from people buying their opinions and views are wrong. I admire your delusion and resilience son

[Finchy]

Glad you've conceded that. I'll continue to form my views on players performances by actually watching the game, you can continue to form your views on players performances based on Neville-nobodies telling you they were "excellent" in a clickbait Fox Sports article.

[Billy Walker]

I watched the game and said he was very very good. If I was reflecting the opinions of the experts I’d be using words like “slick” and “excellent”. It’s actually only you that has used the word “average” to describe his game last night. But keep digging in on this, I’m enjoying your perspective.

[Finchy]

Well for some context, Supercoach scores players based on actual in-game statistical output such as: tries, try assists, line breaks, line break assists, tackle breaks, hit ups, offloads, goals, tackles. You lose points for negative plays like errors, penalties, missed goals, missed tackles, etc. Not an infallible assessment of a player's performance, but a pretty good indication. Not many people scoring 100+ points having a stinker, not many people scoring 50 odd points having a blinder. Less than that is a fairly poor performance, at least statistically speaking.

Nathan Cleary last week had what myself and most other people would call a "very very good" or "excellent" game. He scored 140+points in Supercoach based on his statistical output. Brad Schneider scored 60 points in Supercoach from last night's game.

I'd posit that whilst Fox Sports pundits and **** like yourself are waxing lyrical about both performances, only one was actually "excellent", the other average. But hey, keep listening to whatever the Fox Sports writers tell you Billy. Eyesight test and actual statistics be damned!

[Billy Walker]

Well for some context, Supercoach scores players based on actual in-game statistical output such as: tries, try assists, line breaks, line break assists, tackle breaks, hit ups, offloads, goals, tackles. You lose points for negative plays like errors, penalties, missed goals, missed tackles, etc. Not an infallible assessment of a player's performance, but a pretty good indication. Not many people scoring 100+ points having a stinker, not many people scoring 50 odd points having a blinder. Less than that is a fairly poor performance, at least statistically speaking.

Nathan Cleary last week had what myself and most other people would call a "very very good" or "excellent" game. He scored 140+points in Supercoach based on his statistical output. Brad Schneider scored 60 points in Supercoach from last night's game.

I'd posit that whilst Fox Sports pundits and **** like yourself are waxing lyrical about both performances, only one was actually "excellent", the other average. But hey, keep listening to whatever the Fox Sports writers tell you Billy. Eyesight test and actual statistics be damned!

Oooof the SuperCoach defence…. Oh dear - scenes here at the GreenHouse. Go back to the dawn of time and all the GH experts will tell you SC points are a terrible indicator of player performance. Here is a 2016 quote from GH regular Botman (although possibly known as Pigman at the time before I tricked him into changing his name) slamming the SC in his defence of Croker’s inability to tackle….

100% simo
this is where the fantasy football/supercoach fans really distinguish themselves.

Mis-tackle counts and therefore tackle bust stats are virtually worthless without context. Classic example... Croker leads the kick chase, he makes contact with Greg Inglis, GI palms him off sideways and gets tackled 2 metres to the left of the initial contact.

That's a mis-tackle for Croker and tackle bust for Inglis. But Croker didnt make a negative play, especially if he's heard Inglis into other defenders. Inglis hasnt made a positive play either, and yet the stats say one is good and the other is bad.

Hell even tackle stats are mostly misleading, unless you know if they were dominant or not. Making 50 tackles and being 3rd man in on 30 of them like a Nathan Hindmarsh, isnt better than making 30 tackles, most of which are first contact and putting blokes on their arses like a Ruben Wiki

[Finchy]

You appear to have missed the part where I said "Not an infallible assessment of a player's performance, but a pretty good indication. Not many people scoring 100+ points having a stinker, not many people scoring 50 odd points having a blinder. Less than that is a fairly poor performance, at least statistically speaking."

Put your glasses on old man!

[Billy Walker]

Clutching at straws! It’s almost uncomfortable to see you like this Finchy. It’s okay - you can say “on reflection I agree with everyone else and Brad Schneider did in fact have a very good game last night”. You will be free of the weight of your foolish poorly considered position and we can all move on and laugh at you for something else. Will Finchy be brave and admit he is wrong or triple down on stupidity? I know where my money is on this one

[Finchy]

Well hopefully you're money is on me, because I'm up 3-0 this week Billy, it's sad to see. The argument isn't was Schneider "good", it is whether he was "very very good" and "excellent". The fact you rate the likes of Levi, Valemei, Elliott, Hopoate, etc, shows what a poor judge of a player and performance you are. No-one on this forum takes you seriously and half the place has you blocked, but sure Billy, I'm the crazy one here.