The Politics Thread 2025

[T_R]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

[Botman]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

No, i certainly didn't have that on the bingo card.
I actually spent a bit of my morning the other day reading about the Greenland thing was about as it wasn't immediately clear to me why he was interested.
What a strange place we find ourselves in to start 2025.

But i did have a Trump - Elon public break up on the bingo card. And already, before he's even sworn in, we've got reports that Trump is already getting fed up with Elon's ****
He bought you the election, Donald. You cant complain when he comes to get what he paid for!

Also appreciate the time Trump spent crying about the flags being at half mast for his inauguration because of Jimmy Carter's passing.
2025 is on one early!

[dubby]

On the bright side, let's sell Australia to the U.S. They can have Victoria and the ACT for free

[greeneyed]

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[Botman]

Oh bless you, EDIT...
Life's tough, get a helmet

Elon Musk spent a quarter-billion dollars electing Trump: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna182922

The bill comes due.

[PNGRaider37]

On the bright side, let's sell Australia to the U.S. They can have Victoria and the ACT for free

Albo saying today that he knows "how to handle" Trump, so Australia should vote for him I think people care more about what you can do to help them and their families as a government than how you handle a foreign leader

[PNGRaider37]

"Quick google check" slow clap for you bro. My shout for the bill

"EDIT"

[Botman]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

[PNGRaider37]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

Honestly have no idea what youre on about. Tech christians? Okay..

In other Ironical news. Big man Mark got rid of his fact checkers on Meta

Meta says it will end fact checking as Silicon Valley prepares for Trump: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-52 ... berg-trump

And ended up having his assertions fact checked can't write this

Mark Zukerberg says Meta fact checkers were the problem: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/busi ... check.html

Not sure if this is a genuine freedom of speech (we all know Americans love their freedom) thing or if he's trying to get a slice of Musks "citizen news" pie on X.

[Dr Zaius]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

Honestly have no idea what youre on about. Tech christians? Okay..

In other Ironical news. Big man Mark got rid of his fact checkers on Meta

Meta says it will end fact checking as Silicon Valley prepares for Trump: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-52 ... berg-trump

And ended up having his assertions fact checked can't write this

Mark Zukerberg says Meta fact checkers were the problem: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/busi ... check.html

Not sure if this is a genuine freedom of speech (we all know Americans love their freedom) thing or if he's trying to get a slice of Musks "citizen news" pie on X.

He's just kneeling down EDIT for his Cheetoh coloured overlord.

[Dr Zaius]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

[gerg]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

What is it that young people say these days doc? Ah yes ... "let him cook"

Interesting to read earlier this week that Facebook was following twitter/x in ceasing Fact-checking. Or at least changing the way they do it. How long before the GH also adopts this interesting approach?


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[Mickey_Raider]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

What is it that young people say these days doc? Ah yes ... "let him cook"

Interesting to read earlier this week that Facebook was following twitter/x in ceasing Fact-checking. Or at least changing the way they do it. How long before the GH also adopts this interesting approach?


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Hard to imagine anyone other than Magwits or trolls could honestly look at X as anything other than completely degraded and compromised since Musk took over.

I had to exit the platform a few weeks ago as it reached a tipping point where I realised it is actually unusable and completely dysfunctional. It was hard to identify what value I was getting from the platform anymore.

All I was getting fed was bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, right wing bot rubbish, crypto spam etc.

I got off Facebook some time ago so don't really care if Zuck decides to take that platform down the same march down the path to dysfunction.

[Manbush]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

When it finally happens the divorce between President Musk and Donald Trump will be glorious to watch, Musk is getting too much attention and Trump hates when others get all the attention.

[samvucago]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

What is it that young people say these days doc? Ah yes ... "let him cook"

Interesting to read earlier this week that Facebook was following twitter/x in ceasing Fact-checking. Or at least changing the way they do it. How long before the GH also adopts this interesting approach?


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Hard to imagine anyone other than Magwits or trolls could honestly look at X as anything other than completely degraded and compromised since Musk took over.

I had to exit the platform a few weeks ago as it reached a tipping point where I realised it is actually unusable and completely dysfunctional. It was hard to identify what value I was getting from the platform anymore.

All I was getting fed was bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, right wing bot rubbish, crypto spam etc.

I got off Facebook some time ago so don't really care if Zuck decides to take that platform down the same march down the path to dysfunction.

It’s ironic that when the left leaning luvies were driving the bus on Twitter I felt it was a waste of time and that you might as well find a wall to headbutt instead of engaging in any form of debate/convo. It actually makes you think that we as humans always fall into our own echo chambers in the online world. (IMO)

[Botman]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

When it finally happens the divorce between President Musk and Donald Trump will be glorious to watch, Musk is getting too much attention and Trump hates when others get all the attention.

It is indeed going to be glorious.
Welcome back, Manbush!

[Mickey_Raider]

Did anyone get 'Spend the two weeks before inauguration ranting about invading Panama, Canada and Greenland' on their Trump Bingo Card?

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

What is it that young people say these days doc? Ah yes ... "let him cook"

Interesting to read earlier this week that Facebook was following twitter/x in ceasing Fact-checking. Or at least changing the way they do it. How long before the GH also adopts this interesting approach?


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Hard to imagine anyone other than Magwits or trolls could honestly look at X as anything other than completely degraded and compromised since Musk took over.

I had to exit the platform a few weeks ago as it reached a tipping point where I realised it is actually unusable and completely dysfunctional. It was hard to identify what value I was getting from the platform anymore.

All I was getting fed was bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, right wing bot rubbish, crypto spam etc.

I got off Facebook some time ago so don't really care if Zuck decides to take that platform down the same march down the path to dysfunction.

It’s ironic that when the left leaning luvies were driving the bus I felt it was a waste of time and that you might as well find a wall to headbutt instead of engaging in any form of debate/convo. It actually makes you think that we as humans always fall into our own echo chambers in the online world. (IMO)

That’s not it at all. I have heard plenty of Magwits assert that the exodus from X was on to platforms like BlueSky was because “The libs lost” and they were having a cry.

I couldn’t care less about that and I am perfectly happy to listen to legitimate plurality of views.

But as I have outlined above, it wasn’t just a plurality of views, it was outright dysfunctionality. An algorithmic mess.

Rather than reflexively thinking everything is about ideology, are you able to respond to my observation that the bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, crypto spam and right wing bot rubbish (yes AussiePatriot1770 with 0 followers I am sure you are a real person) have markedly increased to the detriment of the platform?

[Dr Zaius]

Doubt reckon you've a line of credit to pay the Elon bill to save Trump from his clown show, buddy!
Sure as **** i dont have quarter of billion laying around, if you do, im gonna go out on a ledge and say i reckon you wouldnt wasting time on theGH.com.au

I am eager to see which side of the tech bros vs fundamentalist christian MAGA civil war our local Trumpers fall down though.

When it finally happens the divorce between President Musk and Donald Trump will be glorious to watch, Musk is getting too much attention and Trump hates when others get all the attention.

Manbush!

He is back! It is indeed, End of Days.

Welcome back.

[Botman]

Im still on twitter, and will be for the foreseeable future but i must admit i've cultivated a feed that is pretty much trash free, or as much as can it can be
I am very liberal with my block button and use it almost exclusively to follow US sports for news and information.

My feed is basically NFL, NBA, old wrestling clips, memes and the occasional politics... and yes, adult content and random fight videos because apparently no one can avoid those things on the platform

[samvucago]

He is not even President yet and he has threatened three allies.

He has alienated some of his MAGA crew and some of his base by siding with his President on the visa issue.

What a time to be alive.

What is it that young people say these days doc? Ah yes ... "let him cook"

Interesting to read earlier this week that Facebook was following twitter/x in ceasing Fact-checking. Or at least changing the way they do it. How long before the GH also adopts this interesting approach?


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Hard to imagine anyone other than Magwits or trolls could honestly look at X as anything other than completely degraded and compromised since Musk took over.

I had to exit the platform a few weeks ago as it reached a tipping point where I realised it is actually unusable and completely dysfunctional. It was hard to identify what value I was getting from the platform anymore.

All I was getting fed was bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, right wing bot rubbish, crypto spam etc.

I got off Facebook some time ago so don't really care if Zuck decides to take that platform down the same march down the path to dysfunction.

It’s ironic that when the left leaning luvies were driving the bus I felt it was a waste of time and that you might as well find a wall to headbutt instead of engaging in any form of debate/convo. It actually makes you think that we as humans always fall into our own echo chambers in the online world. (IMO)

That’s not it at all. I have heard plenty of Magwits assert that the exodus from X was on to platforms like BlueSky was because “The libs lost” and they were having a cry.

I couldn’t care less about that and I am perfectly happy to listen to legitimate plurality of views.

But as I have outlined above, it wasn’t just a plurality of views, it was outright dysfunctionality. An algorithmic mess.

Rather than reflexively thinking everything is about ideology, are you able to respond to my observation that the bum fight videos, adult content, racist disinformation, crypto spam and right wing bot rubbish (yes AussiePatriot1770 with 0 followers I am sure you are a real person) have markedly increased to the detriment of the platform?

As Botman points out your feed can be individualised to fit purpose. I’m not a big user so won’t die on the hill with this one but my point stands that before Elon it was a platform where you had to kiss the ring of the LLLs or got hounded out. A bit like the Democratic Party really. (IMO)

[gangrenous]

Seems like every day there’s a top of page article from News.com attacking Labor and Albo. The election campaign has informally begun.

Today criticising him for calling out that LA fires in winter are more evidence of the change we need to combat.

Very reminiscent of the “now isn’t the time to talk about gun control” brigade after mass school shootings

[T_R]

MANBUSH!

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[T_R]

Seems like every day there’s a top of page article from News.com attacking Labor and Albo. The election campaign has informally begun.

Today criticising him for calling out that LA fires in winter are more evidence of the change we need to combat.

Very reminiscent of the “now isn’t the time to talk about gun control” brigade after mass school shootings

Four month election campaign incoming, all so we can choose between the lesser of two who cares.

Yay.

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[Manbush]

When Musks own AI labels him one of the biggest sources of misinformation on Twitter, that tells you everything you need to know about how bad the platform has gotten. The power and influence that man now has is beyond scary especially with the way he’s prepared to use it.

[Manbush]

Seems like every day there’s a top of page article from News.com attacking Labor and Albo. The election campaign has informally begun.

Today criticising him for calling out that LA fires in winter are more evidence of the change we need to combat.

Very reminiscent of the “now isn’t the time to talk about gun control” brigade after mass school shootings

Four month election campaign incoming, all so we can choose between the lesser of two who cares.

Yay.

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LNP are a shoe in regardless of how Labor was performing if global trends are anything to go by, from what I read 100% of incumbents looking after the COVID economy recovery have lost. Hell if a candidate as bad as Trump can win with messaging like “they’re eating the dogs”, policies that will only increase costs and inflation like mass deportations and tariffs when the US economic recovery was the envy of the world then anyone in opposition can win.

[Botman]

Seems like every day there’s a top of page article from News.com attacking Labor and Albo. The election campaign has informally begun.

Today criticising him for calling out that LA fires in winter are more evidence of the change we need to combat.

Very reminiscent of the “now isn’t the time to talk about gun control” brigade after mass school shootings

Im curious to see how this cycle runs, this is very anecdotal but i've mentioned this before but my social and family circle is probably 65% left leaning, and 35% right... the right have always been very in on bagging Albo but over the last 12 months ive noticed a significant tone shift in friends on the left, and consider myself in that group, who seem to be souring on him

As Bushy points out, there is a big time trend against incumbants at the moment on the back of this cost of living 'crisis', Albo might be the next in line to cop the brunt of that

[gangrenous]

That is how I expect this to go. Which disappoints me, because I think the Coalition should be kept away from the reins at all cost.

Having Angus Taylor who doesn’t even believe Climate Change is real as energy minister. What a clown show.

They’ve lost all vaguely senior moderates. They’d be a Conservative **** show burning cash on nuclear that I don’t believe for a second they are doing for any reason other than to delay moves away from coal and if the money spent proving it won’t be cost effective goes to some choice places then even better for them.

I think best result would be a Labor minority and getting some more good independents in there for the balance of power forcing them to proper policy, not “show policy” like first home owners grants.

[gangrenous]

Hopefully state and federal governments are watching LA and learning lessons.

We were underprepared in 2019. LA appear to be horrifically under-prepared this year. We need to have a stack of investment and planning on how to control our next extreme fires.

[Dr Zaius]

Hopefully state and federal governments are watching LA and learning lessons.

We were underprepared in 2019. LA appear to be horrifically under-prepared this year. We need to have a stack of investment and planning on how to control our next extreme fires.

No doubt conservatives believe that LA is burning because God is angry that they voted for Kamala.

[samvucago]

Hopefully state and federal governments are watching LA and learning lessons.

We were underprepared in 2019. LA appear to be horrifically under-prepared this year. We need to have a stack of investment and planning on how to control our next extreme fires.

No doubt conservatives believe that LA is burning because God is angry that they voted for Kamala.

No doubt the LLL believe it’s all because of human induced climate change and nothing to do with nature doing what nature has always done . (IMO)

[Dr Zaius]

Hopefully state and federal governments are watching LA and learning lessons.

We were underprepared in 2019. LA appear to be horrifically under-prepared this year. We need to have a stack of investment and planning on how to control our next extreme fires.

No doubt conservatives believe that LA is burning because God is angry that they voted for Kamala.

No doubt the LLL believe it’s all because of human induced climate change and nothing to do with nature doing what nature has always done . (IMO)

Wild fire infernos have always occurred mid Winter? OK.

[gangrenous]

I assume he meant human nature is doing what human nature has always done - to make up stories to explain away our problems so we don’t have to do the right thing.

[gerg]

According to ABC News (Australia) **. Trump has reneged on his promise to end the conflict in Ukraine within 24 hours. The former military officer he has assigned to the role of fixing the issue has committed to 100 days instead of 24 hours.

Donald Trump backtracks on pledge to end Ukraine war in 24 hours as special envoy sets 100-day timeline: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-11/ ... /104806454

** acknowledge that ABC news is not a legitimate source ... for some.

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[gangrenous]

Can add this one gerg:

Elon Musk says DOGE probably won't find $2 trillion in federal budget cuts: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna186924

[gerg]

But Musk thinks they should be able to still make 1 trillion in savings, of a discretionary 1.7 trillion budget. Haha.

What a **** time to be alive. This thread is going to be a hoot. All us lefties highlighting lies and broken promises while the Trumpsters claim that pointing out lies and bs is the reason people voted for Trump. Or some **** like that.

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