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17 times the tigers were down a player. Probably a couple of doubles in there. Makes it hard to win matches.

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Thanks zim.

Was trying to find my stats the other day where I had tracked for and against sin bins across a few years for the Raiders, was planning to update them.

This just shows another year where Raiders continue to be anomalously unbalanced in sin bins. It’s not just down to being poor, manner of play, or chance that evens it out. It’s consistent over years.
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I've been pointing out the raw deal the Tigers have received this year. It's GEs unconscious bias, right before our eyes. The Roosters are a side that really pushes everything to the limit, from blatantly and consistently being offside when defending their tryline, to disrupting the ruck to just outright high tackles and they have gotten off lightly compared to the Tigers. It stinks.

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Who cares about Addo Carr, everyone does coke, it's actually a bit odd how there's this pretence otherwise
zim wrote: September 11, 2024, 10:52 am 17 times the tigers were down a player. Probably a couple of doubles in there. Makes it hard to win matches.

Interesting. I suspect that's mostly explainable by sin bins occurring when a team is perceived to be halting momentum. That would be almost always a losing team. That wouldn't apply for high shots of course

For all my defence of the referees though, I've never thought they're perfect. They're often promoted based on fitness targets, commitment to off field events etc rather than actual decisions, it's a meritocracy of the wrong sort. One area they're flawed is yes, unconscious bias. I think I used to push back on GE's thing about that but I would agree now. Moreso about trying to halt perceived momentum rather than having it in for certain teams

The other area I don't like is game management, scoreboard/clock refereeing, square up penalties etc.
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It'd be interesting to look at the tigers sin bin causes if I could find them but from memory there's quite a bit of Olam getting it wrong and Seyfarth being a red head in amongst the occasional Api cynical professional foul. They definitely received a healthy share of harsh ones while a lot of other teams have been allowed more leniency.
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Peter V’landys seeks meeting with Channel 10 over NRL rights

Peter V’landys will try to convince one of the world’s richest men to buy the NRL’s free-to-air television rights in the game’s next broadcast deal. The independent commission boss wants a meeting with US businessman Larry Ellison, the new Channel 10 owner, who is worth $265 billion.

The Ellison family’s Skydance Media company recently purchased the struggling TV network with hopes of lifting it off the ratings scrapheap.

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PNG given an in principle agreement to join the NRL in 2028.

Papua New Guinea is set to make history by entering the NRL competition in a $600 million expansion coup for rugby league.

The federal government has reached an in-principle agreement with the ARL Commission as prime minister Anthony Albanese backs a 10-year funding plan for PNG to become the NRL’s 19th team.

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Such a bad idea
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Dr Zaius wrote:Such a bad idea
I agree

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Incredible atmosphere at Hull. Nothing manufactured about it. No music during scrums needed.
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Incredible game. Hull KR scored two tries in the first, one very dubious. All Warrington in the second half, they score two, and came very close to another a few times. But Hull KR win 10-8 and go to the Grand Final.
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Yeah, it was a good game. Hull were a bit Raiders like, just hung on through grit against a more talented team.
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dubby wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Such a bad idea
I agree

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greeneyed wrote: October 5, 2024, 5:02 am Incredible atmosphere at Hull. Nothing manufactured about it. No music during scrums needed.
If you need music to create atmosphere you have a crap product imo.
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dubby wrote:
greeneyed wrote: October 5, 2024, 5:02 am Incredible atmosphere at Hull. Nothing manufactured about it. No music during scrums needed.
If you need music to create atmosphere you have a crap product imo.
How do musicians create atmosphere then?

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gerg wrote:
dubby wrote:
greeneyed wrote: October 5, 2024, 5:02 am Incredible atmosphere at Hull. Nothing manufactured about it. No music during scrums needed.
If you need music to create atmosphere you have a crap product imo.
How do musicians create atmosphere then?

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Raiders are the longest odds to win the 2025 grand final at 81-1

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Being pedantic - for the odds bookies are offering on winning the 2025 premiership, Raiders are the longest.

The bookies odds don’t reflect the odds of the Raiders winning.
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$81 ??? Where are those odds. TAB have $34
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Sportsbet.
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gangrenous wrote:Being pedantic - for the odds bookies are offering on winning the 2025 premiership, Raiders are the longest.

The bookies odds don’t reflect the odds of the Raiders winning.
I agree, shallow and pedantic.

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Shallow? Doesn’t seem appropriate really does it?
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Sid wrote: October 7, 2024, 12:58 pm
gangrenous wrote:Being pedantic - for the odds bookies are offering on winning the 2025 premiership, Raiders are the longest.

The bookies odds don’t reflect the odds of the Raiders winning.
I agree, shallow and pedantic.

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I concur, shallow, pedantic and ridiculous.
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You would
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gangrenous wrote:Shallow? Doesn’t seem appropriate really does it?
Apologies, it's a Family Guy quote... I'll stick to Simpsons quotes as that's something we all know and won't be out of context Image

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Sid wrote: October 7, 2024, 3:41 pm
gangrenous wrote:Shallow? Doesn’t seem appropriate really does it?
Apologies, it's a Family Guy quote... I'll stick to Simpsons quotes as that's something we all know and won't be out of context Image

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Sid wrote:
gangrenous wrote:Shallow? Doesn’t seem appropriate really does it?
Apologies, it's a Family Guy quote... I'll stick to Simpsons quotes as that's something we all know and won't be out of context Image

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Classic gangy just jumping down everybody's throats.
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Don’t you think Billy is enough trolling for this forum?
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gangrenous wrote:Don’t you think Billy is enough trolling for this forum?
I’m not trolling you, I’m gently ribbing you, my oldest and dearest friend.
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The Western Bears bid is dead: NRL severs ties with consortium after ‘low-ball’ proposal

The NRL has told the Western Australian government it will not consider working with the consortium behind the Western Bears bid in a major hurdle to the game’s expansion plans.

Sources talking under the condition of anonymity due to the confidential nature of discussions told this masthead NRL officials were fuming over what they perceived to be an attempt by the consortium to “low-ball” the NRL in its recently submitted business proposal.

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V’landys’ Bears promise amid WA’s NRL expansion collapse

ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys has declared North Sydney will not be killed off over a $20 million stand-off that has left the Western Bears expansion bid on life support. V’landys has contacted Bears chairman Daniel Dickson to assure him that the famous club is still part of their expansion plans despite the dramatic collapse of the Western Bears bid.

“The Bears will be there,” V’landys said. “We are trying to do a deal with the WA government which includes the Bears. If we do a deal directly with government, it will include the Bears.”

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‘Tunnel ball’ tactic, Bunker process under spotlight as NRL’s email to 17 clubs revealed

The NRL has emailed all 17 clubs for feedback regarding potential changes to the play-the-ball and the Bunker and judicial process ahead of the 2025 season. The NRL is trying to address a number of contentious issues with clubs, including players not attempting to strike the ball with their foot and bunker decision making.

The NRL has sought suggestions on how it can improve on-field officiating, bunker decisions, the match review committee, the judiciary system and concussion protocols.

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The play the balls have become downright ridiculous, and it has skewed the game too far in favour of attack.
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