Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart signs four-year contract extension

[Thomas Roy]

So another 4 years of 5 hit ups and a bomb

[Roy Rover]

It should be the focus and it is the focus Botman. The club has identified the key pieces and they want Ricky to see it through.

Comparing Ricky's time to those blokes above is laughable. Honestly. Who is Matt Elliot? Who is Neil Henry?

We were a basketcase club for the previous 15 years. We're now a competitive side. Ricky has done his job. If it wasn't for him, we'd still be training out of that dump in Bruce. We've now got at least something to offer young blokes with a world class facility in the city and Braddon where young people hang out. This building is another feather in the cap of Rick mind you - connections with NSW government got that deal done.

The next step is to be a consistent threat. To do that you need the players. We've assembled a good batch, now we see how it goes. This next 5 years is the best shot at a premiership since Mal stopped playing.

To go after another coach now would be silly. Unless, we were like a Parramatta side with elite spine players who got blown apart in a GF. That's when you call in Wayne to tidy up a few things. We're not that side.

We're the side that is consistently overachieving. So what, you sack the coach and get some no name like Jason Ryles in? Please.

The focus of the Raiders is to win a premiership and they know that without Ricky that task will be a lot more difficult. The club is trending upwards, in all areas. Why cut the head off now?

If you look at the bottom 4 sides now. Let's say the Titans, how long is it before they are a premiership threat? They have a way better lifestyle to offer than us and I'd say they are at least, at least, 5 years away from challenging. They have a lot better roster than we did when Ricky took over. To turn a club around takes a huge amount. Ricky has turned this club around in every area.

His next job is to win a premiership. If it doesn't happen by 2027-2028 I think he should go. However, what he has achieved with the Raiders is massive. He is putting his chips in on these young guys. For him and for us all I hope it pays off.

Well said.

[Seiffert82]

I'm starting to see some of these young players have the confidence to play what's in front of them, especially with their kicking games. It's something I look forward to with Stewart in time.

Eventually we'll have a dummy half that will, at the very least, have a passing game that delivers good ball to the middles and the halves, and be a solid defender.

I think the likes of Sanders, Strange and Stewart have the brains and skill to execute if they have a couple of quality second rowers to point in the right direction. I have absolute belief that is what Ricky Stuart is building towards.

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[Riaan]

His next job is to win a premiership. If it doesn't happen by 2027-2028 I think he should go. However, what he has achieved with the Raiders is massive. He is putting his chips in on these young guys. For him and for us all I hope it pays off.

Yes. Finally. Some agreement
IMO you are 100% spot on with this. If we're not pushing for a premiership by 2027-28 he should go.
I'm not wanting Stuart sacked today, baring the **** show at hooker, I'm mostly on board with what is happening right now. I said a while ago that results this year don't matter to me, and that if Stuart is investing in younger players, he'll get a lot of rope from me. These young blokes signed up to play for him, so by all means give him time to see it out.
And i pray to many gods many times a week that it pays off (big fan of celestial insurance, if i pray to all the **** maybe one will listen to me!)

But that's the problem, this sort of extension indicates that's not on the cards at all. The club is happy for him to be here for as long as he likes regardless of results. We could run stone motherless last in 2027-2028 and guess who's going to be the HC of the Raiders club in 2029 and beyond? Ricky Stuart
That's what this extension says to me and that's where i find the lack of ambition to be disappointing.

I'm with Botman on this one. The guy has openly said that he has no interest in coaching against this club and we go ahead and lock him in for the best part of this decade . I'm a Ricky fan, but this is a bit of a uninspiring move forward really.

[LimeGreenMachine]

We don't know the ins and outs of the contract.
We know he has a good relationship with Don and the board. He has said him and Don are mates, he also said its good because he can get stabbed in the stomach , not the back like some other clubs.
Lets hope we have success for the next zillion years , 5 years under his control.

[Seiffert82]

'I want to change their lives': Ricky Stuart's pledge after signing massive deal to remain at Canberra Raiders to end 2029

Spine tingling stuff

Just so happy this guy is leading this club


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That was actually a really fun interview.

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea, but he definitely has his head screwed on when it comes to a vision for the club.

Certainly better messaging than the moaning we had from the likes of Matt Elliott when it came to recruitment.

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[Cranky Old Man]

I really don't get this belief that only premiership winning coaches are good coaches, often followed up by the same belief that assistants to premiership coaches are genius in waiting. The accepted colateral to these beliefs is that non premiership winning coaches are duds to be shot into the fires of hell.

A bit of history to make my point. In 1966 Easts came dead last, not winning a game. Jack Gibson, a journeyman prop around the game mainly concentrating on his career as a leg breaker for gambling interests in Sydney was recruited as coach much to everyones surprise. Rumour was Easts couldnt afford anyone else. (Coaches then were on about $1K or less.) Easts slowly rose up the ladder, but didnt win anything and after 2 years moved on (in 1972Don Furner took them to a GF loss). Gibson came back in 74 and 75 and won premierships with a new style of milliondollar team. He then moved on to Newtown, St George, Souths and Cronulla without winning a premiership but interspersed that with wins with Parramatta in 81, 82 and 83. He is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever.

In 1989 Balmain came within an ankle tap and a crossbar of winning a premiership. Head over heart, they deserved to win and it took a miracle to beat them. Warren Ryan was the losing coach who had won premierships earlier at Canterbury. He didnt win at Newtown, Balmain or Newcastle.

In 1994 Canterbury came up against the best RL side ever. They were beaten. The following year they won. The coach was Chris Anderson, and he went on to initial success with Melbourne before being sacked from there and before long was coaching at Cronulla (sacked) and Easts (sacked).

These coaches all had success and failure in the premiership business, but all of them vastly improved sides in the main. But all of them took a while to win, and all of them had more losses than wins.

Another "great coach" of legend is Wayne Bennett. He was brought to Canberra from Souths Brisbane to spend a year assisting Don Furner with a contract to coach for a period thereafter. Brisbane entered the comp in 1988 and Bennett got homesick enough to be released amicably from his contract. He coached Brisbane from 1988 till 2008 and 2015 till 2018. He won 6 premierships in 24 years with the best resourced club in the NRL, oft resourced in very shady circumstances. In reality he often squandered those resources. He also won a premiership at St George with a highly talented but, until his arrival indisciplined and feckless club. He is still around, usuall to squeeze all the juice from a club without winning and then moving on. Thirty six years or thereabouts for 7 premierships is enough to rank him among the greats, but I have my misgivings. He certainly is a great man manager.

[Billy Walker]

I really don't get this belief that only premiership winning coaches are good coaches, often followed up by the same belief that assistants to premiership coaches are genius in waiting. The accepted colateral to these beliefs is that non premiership winning coaches are duds to be shot into the fires of hell.

A bit of history to make my point. In 1966 Easts came dead last, not winning a game. Jack Gibson, a journeyman prop around the game mainly concentrating on his career as a leg breaker for gambling interests in Sydney was recruited as coach much to everyones surprise. Rumour was Easts couldnt afford anyone else. (Coaches then were on about $1K or less.) Easts slowly rose up the ladder, but didnt win anything and after 2 years moved on (in 1972Don Furner took them to a GF loss). Gibson came back in 74 and 75 and won premierships with a new style of milliondollar team. He then moved on to Newtown, St George, Souths and Cronulla without winning a premiership but interspersed that with wins with Parramatta in 81, 82 and 83. He is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever.

In 1989 Balmain came within an ankle tap and a crossbar of winning a premiership. Head over heart, they deserved to win and it took a miracle to beat them. Warren Ryan was the losing coach who had won premierships earlier at Canterbury. He didnt win at Newtown, Balmain or Newcastle.

In 1994 Canterbury came up against the best RL side ever. They were beaten. The following year they won. The coach was Chris Anderson, and he went on to initial success with Melbourne before being sacked from there and before long was coaching at Cronulla (sacked) and Easts (sacked).

These coaches all had success and failure in the premiership business, but all of them vastly improved sides in the main. But all of them took a while to win, and all of them had more losses than wins.

Another "great coach" of legend is Wayne Bennett. He was brought to Canberra from Souths Brisbane to spend a year assisting Don Furner with a contract to coach for a period thereafter. Brisbane entered the comp in 1988 and Bennett got homesick enough to be released amicably from his contract. He coached Brisbane from 1988 till 2008 and 2015 till 2018. He won 6 premierships in 24 years with the best resourced club in the NRL, oft resourced in very shady circumstances. In reality he often squandered those resources. He also won a premiership at St George with a highly talented but, until his arrival indisciplined and feckless club. He is still around, usuall to squeeze all the juice from a club without winning and then moving on. Thirty six years or thereabouts for 7 premierships is enough to rank him among the greats, but I have my misgivings. He certainly is a great man manager.

Great post Cranky! I enjoyed reading that.

[Kryptonite]

I really don't get this belief that only premiership winning coaches are good coaches, often followed up by the same belief that assistants to premiership coaches are genius in waiting. The accepted colateral to these beliefs is that non premiership winning coaches are duds to be shot into the fires of hell.

A bit of history to make my point. In 1966 Easts came dead last, not winning a game. Jack Gibson, a journeyman prop around the game mainly concentrating on his career as a leg breaker for gambling interests in Sydney was recruited as coach much to everyones surprise. Rumour was Easts couldnt afford anyone else. (Coaches then were on about $1K or less.) Easts slowly rose up the ladder, but didnt win anything and after 2 years moved on (in 1972Don Furner took them to a GF loss). Gibson came back in 74 and 75 and won premierships with a new style of milliondollar team. He then moved on to Newtown, St George, Souths and Cronulla without winning a premiership but interspersed that with wins with Parramatta in 81, 82 and 83. He is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever.

In 1989 Balmain came within an ankle tap and a crossbar of winning a premiership. Head over heart, they deserved to win and it took a miracle to beat them. Warren Ryan was the losing coach who had won premierships earlier at Canterbury. He didnt win at Newtown, Balmain or Newcastle.

In 1994 Canterbury came up against the best RL side ever. They were beaten. The following year they won. The coach was Chris Anderson, and he went on to initial success with Melbourne before being sacked from there and before long was coaching at Cronulla (sacked) and Easts (sacked).

These coaches all had success and failure in the premiership business, but all of them vastly improved sides in the main. But all of them took a while to win, and all of them had more losses than wins.

Another "great coach" of legend is Wayne Bennett. He was brought to Canberra from Souths Brisbane to spend a year assisting Don Furner with a contract to coach for a period thereafter. Brisbane entered the comp in 1988 and Bennett got homesick enough to be released amicably from his contract. He coached Brisbane from 1988 till 2008 and 2015 till 2018. He won 6 premierships in 24 years with the best resourced club in the NRL, oft resourced in very shady circumstances. In reality he often squandered those resources. He also won a premiership at St George with a highly talented but, until his arrival indisciplined and feckless club. He is still around, usuall to squeeze all the juice from a club without winning and then moving on. Thirty six years or thereabouts for 7 premierships is enough to rank him among the greats, but I have my misgivings. He certainly is a great man manager.

Great post Cranky! I enjoyed reading that.

Absolutely great read, however i disagree that Wayne got homesick, he was always going to be the inaugural Bronco’s coach


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[Northern Raider]

Like all sports, championships are the ultimate mark of success. Championships don't always accurately reflect the quality of a coach however. Wayne Bennett is a good case study in that. He's not won a premiership for 15 years. That doesn't mean he's been a bad coach over that period. Michael Maguire, Paul Green and Shane Flanagan have won in that time and don't think anybody is going to claim them as superior coaches.

[dubby]

Wayne was not homesick, his children were. He actually intended to stay in Canberra, but because Wayne understood the financial reward from joining the Broncos it made sense, so he asked for heaps and got it. The Broncos had serious financial leverage.

For example, I can't remember the guys name (died in a plane crash in Africa), he paid $100k per year into a trust for Wayne's disabled children.

[The Nickman]

It was Hanse Cronje.

[dubby]

It was Hanse Cronje.

[Botman]

It was Hanse Cronje.

There's a gorilla, on the table.

[Northern Raider]

It was Hanse Cronje.

Wanna bet?

[Northern Raider]

Wayne was not homesick, his children were. He actually intended to stay in Canberra, but because Wayne understood the financial reward from joining the Broncos it made sense, so he asked for heaps and got it. The Broncos had serious financial leverage.

For example, I can't remember the guys name (died in a plane crash in Africa), he paid $100k per year into a trust for Wayne's disabled children.

Ken Talbot

[Lamenting Actions]

It was Hanse Cronje.

There's a gorilla, on the table.

"Hallo"

Hello is that you Hansie?

"...this is John"

[The Nickman]

It was Hanse Cronje.

There's a gorilla, on the table.

You bloody wuss.

[The Nickman]

It was Hanse Cronje.

There's a gorilla, on the table.

"Hallo"

Hello is that you Hansie?

"...this is John"

Sorry Ritch, I just had to urgently fix something.

[dubby]

Wayne was not homesick, his children were. He actually intended to stay in Canberra, but because Wayne understood the financial reward from joining the Broncos it made sense, so he asked for heaps and got it. The Broncos had serious financial leverage.

For example, I can't remember the guys name (died in a plane crash in Africa), he paid $100k per year into a trust for Wayne's disabled children.

Ken Talbot

That's him.

[Botman]

Kenny Talbot was good to Wayne, sorted him out and booked his tickets for..

bookies tickets... excuse me one moment.

Yes, hello John

[RedRaider]

I really don't get this belief that only premiership winning coaches are good coaches, often followed up by the same belief that assistants to premiership coaches are genius in waiting. The accepted colateral to these beliefs is that non premiership winning coaches are duds to be shot into the fires of hell.

A bit of history to make my point. In 1966 Easts came dead last, not winning a game. Jack Gibson, a journeyman prop around the game mainly concentrating on his career as a leg breaker for gambling interests in Sydney was recruited as coach much to everyones surprise. Rumour was Easts couldnt afford anyone else. (Coaches then were on about $1K or less.) Easts slowly rose up the ladder, but didnt win anything and after 2 years moved on (in 1972Don Furner took them to a GF loss). Gibson came back in 74 and 75 and won premierships with a new style of milliondollar team. He then moved on to Newtown, St George, Souths and Cronulla without winning a premiership but interspersed that with wins with Parramatta in 81, 82 and 83. He is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever.

In 1989 Balmain came within an ankle tap and a crossbar of winning a premiership. Head over heart, they deserved to win and it took a miracle to beat them. Warren Ryan was the losing coach who had won premierships earlier at Canterbury. He didnt win at Newtown, Balmain or Newcastle.

In 1994 Canterbury came up against the best RL side ever. They were beaten. The following year they won. The coach was Chris Anderson, and he went on to initial success with Melbourne before being sacked from there and before long was coaching at Cronulla (sacked) and Easts (sacked).

These coaches all had success and failure in the premiership business, but all of them vastly improved sides in the main. But all of them took a while to win, and all of them had more losses than wins.

Another "great coach" of legend is Wayne Bennett. He was brought to Canberra from Souths Brisbane to spend a year assisting Don Furner with a contract to coach for a period thereafter. Brisbane entered the comp in 1988 and Bennett got homesick enough to be released amicably from his contract. He coached Brisbane from 1988 till 2008 and 2015 till 2018. He won 6 premierships in 24 years with the best resourced club in the NRL, oft resourced in very shady circumstances. In reality he often squandered those resources. He also won a premiership at St George with a highly talented but, until his arrival indisciplined and feckless club. He is still around, usuall to squeeze all the juice from a club without winning and then moving on. Thirty six years or thereabouts for 7 premierships is enough to rank him among the greats, but I have my misgivings. He certainly is a great man manager.

Nice walk down memory lane Cranky. I remember the 1966 season, I was 10. The Roosters played 18 and lost 18. In a strange way it was the catalyst for change to be a better performing club. They couldn't get any worse. It was also the final year of the St.George dominance when they won 11 in a row. Also it was the last year of unlimited tackle football. Going to 4 tackles in 1967 - some said in an effort to break the St.George dominance, but they finished as minor Premiers again although Souths won the Grand Final against Canterbury. Penrith and Cronulla came into the Competition in 1967. Jack Gibson was a good player and Captained the Roosters in the 1960 Grand Final loss against St George and played for Wests in the 1963 Grand Final loss to St George. In his first year as coach in 1967 he took the Roosters to the semi finals by coaching them to 4th place. They had the best defence in the competition that year. He again took the Chooks to the semi's in his second year as coach. Then transferred to St George and in 1971 got them to the Grand Final although they did not win it. The next year he went to the struggling Newtown and got them to the semi finals. His innovation in 1971 was to use NFL coach Vince Lombardy 'The second effort' training film to get the players heads focused on what was possible. He then became mates with '49ers NFL coach Dick Nolan and was able to study the methods of NFL coaching around player fitness and monitoring performance. He transformed the game but it came about because of his adaptability to accept change to improve performance.

[The Nickman]

[dubby]

Far out, that made me laugh

[Rickmando]

Jack Gibson did a lot of innovating by the sounds.

But did he ever ask his players to bleed (insert main jersey colour here)? Because that’s what our guy does!!!

Lucky we’ve got him locked in until the end of time. He won’t be able to use any of this proprietary Bleed (opposition colour) against us!!!

[The Nickman]

Far out, that made me laugh

Not as much as it made me!

[Billy Walker]

Far out, that made me laugh

Without doubt Nickman’s best ever post on the GH! A bit like Paul Osbourne’s performance in the 94 GF. Nobody saw it coming, few thought he had it in him, but pleasantly surprising and good to see

[hrundi89]

[dubby]

Far out, that made me laugh

Without doubt Nickman’s best ever post on the GH! A bit like Paul Osbourne’s performance in the 94 GF. Nobody saw it coming, few thought he had it in him, but pleasantly surprising and good to see

True

On the back of my Paul Carriage post

[BJ]

Far out, that made me laugh

Not as much as it made me!

Gold star young man.

[dubby]

Far out, that made me laugh

Not as much as it made me!

Gold star young man.

Why didn't BJ Mole break this?

[BJ]

Far out, that made me laugh

Not as much as it made me!

Gold star young man.

Why didn't BJ Mole break this?

BJ Mole too busy advising David Fifita on how to deal with former partners that feel jilted.

[RedRaider]

Don't die with the music in you, whipper snapper. If I could find my teeth I'd bite you.

[gerg]

Far out, that made me laugh

Without doubt Nickman’s best ever post on the GH! A bit like Paul Osbourne’s performance in the 94 GF. Nobody saw it coming, few thought he had it in him, but pleasantly surprising and good to see

True

On the back of my Paul Carriage post

Chin up Billy. One day you might have your own Paul Osborne moment.

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[Seiffert82]

Listen to every interview with the players about Stuart extending his contract.

They genuinely love the **** out of the guy.

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