'We definitely 1 million per cent want to keep Trey': Raiders keen for Mooney to stay

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Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says Trey Mooney will get his crack



Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says that there would have been more changes to his team this week, if the NSW Cup team had not performed poorly last weekend. Many Raiders fans have been wondering what else prop Trey Mooney needs to do to be promoted. Stuart says consistency of performance is the key.

"With Trey, he's a great young player and he's going to get his crack, and when he gets his crack it's his job to keep his spot. But he's got a little bit of seniority above him at the moment. His pathway and development has been to the tee. He's ready to step up and as soon as there's an opportunity for him I'm sure he's going to be hard to put out."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Stuart: There would have been more changes made if second grade had have been better: https://canberradaily.com.au/stuart-sti ... els-clash/
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"With Trey, he's a great young player and he's going to get his crack, and when he gets his crack it's his job to keep his spot. But he's got a little bit of seniority above him at the moment. His pathway and development has been to the tee. He's ready to step up and as soon as there's an opportunity for him I'm sure he's going to be hard to put out."
I'd understand if the likes of Guler and Saulo are killing it, but they're not. They should make room for him.
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Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
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I’m not sure why Ricky Stuart is saying the NSW Cup team were individually, across the board, poor.

Mooney missed four tackles against the Jets, and that produced a tackle efficiency rate of 88 per cent, but that was the only blemish. Only one of the misses could have been considered close to a try cause (the first Jets try)… but I’d say Spencer and Guler were the main players responsible.

Other than that he scored a try, made 156 metres from 14 runs, 46 metres post contact, two line breaks, five tackle breaks, 2.81 seconds play the ball speed, one offload, 36 tackles, no errors, no penalties.
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-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
It doesn’t really confirm anything. This tactic doesn’t explain why Schiller is in the team over Cotric. Is this selection based on form, rather than seniority?

If so, why does Starling hold his position? And how does Saulo keep Mooney out? Baffling.
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"With Trey, he's a great young player and he's going to get his crack, and when he gets his crack it's his job to keep his spot. But he's got a little bit of seniority above him at the moment. His pathway and development has been to the tee. He's ready to step up and as soon as there's an opportunity for him I'm sure he's going to be hard to put out."
I'd understand if the likes of Guler and Saulo are killing it, but they're not. They should make room for him.



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President Clinton wrote:
-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
It doesn’t really confirm anything. This tactic doesn’t explain why Schiller is in the team over Cotric. Is this selection based on form, rather than seniority?

If so, why does Starling hold his position? And how does Saulo keep Mooney out? Baffling.
It’s pretty clear that seniority buys you a lot of leeway.
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-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
But Trey is a middle
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.

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dubby wrote: April 6, 2024, 7:04 pm
-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
But Trey is a middle
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President Clinton wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:54 pm
-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
It doesn’t really confirm anything. This tactic doesn’t explain why Schiller is in the team over Cotric. Is this selection based on form, rather than seniority?

If so, why does Starling hold his position? And how does Saulo keep Mooney out? Baffling.
Cotric has been phoning it in. That change needed to be made and I would have been happy with Asomua.
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greeneyed wrote: April 4, 2024, 7:31 pm If we wanted to keep him 1,000,000 per cent, why is he off contract? Why wasn’t he signed up before he was off contract.

We saw Trey’s dad coming on The GH Facebook page in last week or so… and basically he doesn’t know what else Trey has to do to get a run in firsts. Which suggests Trey doesn’t know either. Seems to a communication breakdown. Communication breakdown.
This is a concern. I wrote in another post that I hope the coaching staff have been transparent in their feedback and sat Mooney down and told him what else he needs to do to make FG.
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He needs to have played consistently in first grade before to make first grade.
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-PJ- wrote: April 6, 2024, 6:06 pm Just confirms seniority not form is how Stick operates.

It’s why EW is starting every week.
Yeah it's a BS comment from Ricky. Most coaches go by "when you're good enough, you're old enough". Ricky seems to have flipped those adjectives in his head and thinks that age is an acceptable metric. Trey is 21, he's not a child. He's been good enough for over a year and has continued to wait and continued to perform whilst 2 guys in firsts plod along making their 8 runs for 65m a game. It's become a bit of bad joke - both the Raiders tendency to fade as soon as the bench middles come on and Trey's continued relegation to NSW Cup.

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They aren't 1,000,001 percent on keeping Trey though. 1,000,001 percent and I'm satisfied.
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I'm not getting why seniority has to run all the way to the bench. We've already got huge seniority in Tapine/Paps. And Saulo/Guler are really more journeymen than proper seniors

I thought Saulo presented really well when presenting Sasagi with his jersey. Maybe Stick likes his attitude and mentality, which I suspect he does with Levi too

When we're winning games it's like ok the seniority strategy is paying off, when we're losing games it's an easy target for criticism. Either way it shouldn't extend to Mooney, he should be playing
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Canberra Milk wrote: April 7, 2024, 3:36 pm I'm not getting why seniority has to run all the way to the bench. We've already got huge seniority in Tapine/Paps. And Saulo/Guler are really more journeymen than proper seniors

I thought Saulo presented really well when presenting Sasagi with his jersey. Maybe Stick likes his attitude and mentality, which I suspect he does with Levi too

When we're winning games it's like ok the seniority strategy is paying off, when we're losing games it's an easy target for criticism. Either way it shouldn't extend to Mooney, he should be playing
I hate to re-open the “journeyman” definition debate again, but hasn’t Guler only played first grade for us?
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Finchy wrote: April 7, 2024, 5:25 pm
Canberra Milk wrote: April 7, 2024, 3:36 pm I'm not getting why seniority has to run all the way to the bench. We've already got huge seniority in Tapine/Paps. And Saulo/Guler are really more journeymen than proper seniors

I thought Saulo presented really well when presenting Sasagi with his jersey. Maybe Stick likes his attitude and mentality, which I suspect he does with Levi too

When we're winning games it's like ok the seniority strategy is paying off, when we're losing games it's an easy target for criticism. Either way it shouldn't extend to Mooney, he should be playing
I hate to re-open the “journeyman” definition debate again, but hasn’t Guler only played first grade for us?
Yeah, CM has completely butchered the use of the term ‘journeymen’.
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Trey Mooney's chance to cement NRL spot

The Raiders have offered Trey Mooney an extension until at least the end of 2027 - and potentially longer. But Mooney wants to see where he is in the Raiders pecking order before committing to a long-term stay in the capital.

"We want him at the club. We want Trey. We have made it very, very clear that we want Trey to be a Raider and we've offered him a very good deal," Ricky Stuart said. "But Trey wants to be playing NRL and I totally understand his position and that is a big part of the process going forward for Trey to play NRL and be a future Raider."

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We’ll happily after a couple of cup stints it seems he has finally leapfrogged Emre in Stickys eyes.

Next up, Saulo.
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Make it count, Trey. Go like blazes
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Offered a deal to 2027 potentially longer, so good to hear.

I’m sure he’ll kill it and hopefully sign an extension in coming weeks. EXCITING TIMES
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“We’ve offered him a very good deal”. Interesting language and public messaging there.
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Regardless of what happens with Trey I think we will have one of the best middle rotations/forward packs in the competition for as long as Ricky is involved. It's an area he does very well. Trey is a gun and I want him to stay but I trust the club massively in this area.
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Trey has a medium term opportunity to take over from Papa. That’s a great long term place to be in for a young developing Prop with your career in front of you.

Imagine having Taps as your front row partner. What an awesome pairing they could become.
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Very keen to watch Trey this weekend.

Perhaps being held back for 4-5 weeks will have himself breathing absolute fire when he runs on! Can’t wait to see his early involvements.
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Mindblowing to me that Guler has been there ahead of this bloke. Never been so confident a bloke will kill it as a forward in FG. But, I'm not a coach and maybe there are reasons we aren't aware of.
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He plays the next 4 games easy and cements his place in the top level
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BJ wrote: April 12, 2024, 6:57 pm Trey has a medium term opportunity to take over from Papa. That’s a great long term place to be in for a young developing Prop with your career in front of you.

Imagine having Taps as your front row partner. What an awesome pairing they could become.
He'd probably have to get ahead of Ata first. IMO Ata is the better prospect.
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Billy Walker wrote:“We’ve offered him a very good deal”. Interesting language and public messaging there.
He has other firm offers. Raiders may not be offering enough.

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T_R wrote: April 12, 2024, 8:14 pm
Billy Walker wrote:“We’ve offered him a very good deal”. Interesting language and public messaging there.
He has other firm offers. Raiders may not be offering enough.

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Hope I’m wrong but theres a hint they may have faafo’d on this one.
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greeneyed wrote: April 12, 2024, 8:18 pm
T_R wrote: April 12, 2024, 8:14 pm
Billy Walker wrote:“We’ve offered him a very good deal”. Interesting language and public messaging there.
He has other firm offers. Raiders may not be offering enough.

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T_R wrote: April 12, 2024, 8:14 pm
Billy Walker wrote:“We’ve offered him a very good deal”. Interesting language and public messaging there.
He has other firm offers. Raiders may not be offering enough.

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I think we still have time to play this right.
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