Finchy wrote: ↑March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm
Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well
You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.
Finchy wrote: ↑March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm
Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well
You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.
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Both very limited in ball playing. I actually think Schneider is a better defender, Fog a better kicker, at least in length and height. W'ere probably quibbling over 5-6/10 halfbacks that can pull out 8-9/10 games on occasion.
julian87 wrote:I’ve been Fogarty’s harshest critic but he’s miles ahead of Brad Schneider. I mean come on.
I wasn't suggesting that Schneider was a better player. Just throwing the question out there 'how much better' and I think suggesting Fogarty is miles better is a little off the mark. When was his last line break assist, or try assist (not from a kick)?
He is a better player but not by that much. I think one of the only differences is he has been afforded more of an opportunity in the NRL than Schneider. If they'd played the exact same amount of games they almost be identical or maybe even Schneider takes it on points.
Botman wrote:He's not had a lot of joy on the stat sheet but i think Luai has been very good for the panthers tonight
He's an unlikable character and im not sold he's the sort of player that can drag the tigers out of their **** show but i am sold of this... dude can play and people who think he cant are too far in their feelings.
Hahaha I love people who say he’s overrated and nothing without Cleary… whenever Cleary has been out over the last five years, Luai just takes the reins and they don’t miss a beat.
He continually puts rubbish criticism like that to bed.
Botman wrote:He's not had a lot of joy on the stat sheet but i think Luai has been very good for the panthers tonight
He's an unlikable character and im not sold he's the sort of player that can drag the tigers out of their **** show but i am sold of this... dude can play and people who think he cant are too far in their feelings.
Hahaha I love people who say he’s overrated and nothing without Cleary… whenever Cleary has been out over the last five years, Luai just takes the reins and they don’t miss a beat.
He continually puts rubbish criticism like that to bed.
Yeah, think he has won 16 out of 18 when Cleary has been out (according to Phil Gould).
some idiot who should know better wrote:
“I talked about the need for the lead runner to continue through the defensive line, and for the play not to be turned back through the gap created by a collision with a defender.
“Neither of these factors were present in last night’s decision (for the Manu no-try).
“In the circumstances, the Bunker does have discretion to consider whether a defender could have prevented the try.
As others have already pointed out. You need to not just consider if that defender can get there, but also the flow on impact to other defenders and attackers.
This just makes the rule more grey, and means more favourable to teams who get the refereeing biases.
It’s garbage. If you want to run a decoy/block play and don’t want to lose your try? Don’t stop in the freaking defensive line!!
Annesley making all these contortions over a decision that just further adds confusion and increases to the lack of consistency by decision makers, especially the Bunker.
It certainly wasn’t as clear cut like last week, but JWH ran a long way through the line and then collided with the fullback coming across field. JWH as a decoy needs to be more aware of his surroundings and do a better job trying to avoid getting in the way.
Bulldogs out enthusing Souths, but behind on the scoreboard. Wonder if the bulldogs can keep it up
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Pet hate is when a fullback does all the hard work getting into position, makes a good call and sees a ball go dead, picks it up and sprints 30m to the 20m line only for lazy forwards not getting themselves back behind the 20.
As a result the 30m sprint was for nothing, the defence is rested and set and a 7 tackle set is wasted.
And of course, he scores a try now. Nice work by the Bulldogs
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Dramatic end to the half. Addo-Carr unlikely to come back in the second half.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
LimeGreenMachine wrote:How did Tass not go to the bin
Dogs have fought back into this. Have looked the better team .
Mitchell also lucky not to go to the bin.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Yeah, he was knocked out cold for a minute or two. Stupid of those players trying to pick him up.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Teams are back out. This could be a wild second half
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Finchy wrote: ↑March 28, 2024, 8:32 pm
Yeah, I never really rated him as a NRL level half and I don’t think we’ll ever miss him, but he seems like a nice guy and I wish him well and I’m glad to see him doing a job for a red hot Panthers team as a back up to Cleary
He’s just a good back up half
Because he kicks well and tackles well
You can live with that. Means he doesn’t sink you. What he’s done tonight is exactly what you want out of a back up half. There is always a place in NRL squads for a guy like that
How much better of a player is Fogarty over Schneider? I think it's only marginal. The shortcomings in Schneider's game are very similar to Fogartys shortcomings. We don't see much ball playing from Fogarty. Excellent kicking game, particularly so far this year. Decent defence and ... I'm struggling to think of more.
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Both very limited in ball playing. I actually think Schneider is a better defender, Fog a better kicker, at least in length and height. W'ere probably quibbling over 5-6/10 halfbacks that can pull out 8-9/10 games on occasion.
Agreed,inkee.
Schneider defends better, Fogarty kicks better.
Neither will win you a premiership. But they'll contribute according to their strengths
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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑March 29, 2024, 3:24 pm
Bit confused about how I feel about Jack tbh. Don’t hate him or wish ill will on him the way I did Dugan for example.
But certainly don’t love him either or wish him particularly good fortune in his Bunnies venture.
Same.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Another try for Wighton. Be interesting to see if the Rabbitohs can keep it up for more than 5 minutes.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.