julian87 wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 9:29 am
I don’t rate him as highly as others but there could be an opportunity to snake Latu Fainu and have an each way bet on the 2 NSW under 20s halves from last season I reckon.
Scott Fulton got the ass from Tigers (signed all 3 of the brothers there). He’s been jumped by Galvin and seems the 4th choice half at Wests. And will remain that way next year when Luai replaces Sezer. You’d think Sullivan gets afforded plenty of opportunities having been signed for 500k too
Reports were they gave him a ridiculous contract (similar to Sullivan) so if he doesn’t sniff first grade he’s bit of a salary cap issue for them as well.
Could all be hot air, he may be their #6 by round 6 but it’s an interesting situation in the context of Fulton and Luai happening post his signing.
How the **** did Sullivan get $500,000?
Second coming of Richie Williams. Absolute battler.
julian87 wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 9:29 am
I don’t rate him as highly as others but there could be an opportunity to snake Latu Fainu and have an each way bet on the 2 NSW under 20s halves from last season I reckon.
Scott Fulton got the ass from Tigers (signed all 3 of the brothers there). He’s been jumped by Galvin and seems the 4th choice half at Wests. And will remain that way next year when Luai replaces Sezer. You’d think Sullivan gets afforded plenty of opportunities having been signed for 500k too
Reports were they gave him a ridiculous contract (similar to Sullivan) so if he doesn’t sniff first grade he’s bit of a salary cap issue for them as well.
Could all be hot air, he may be their #6 by round 6 but it’s an interesting situation in the context of Fulton and Luai happening post his signing.
How the **** did Sullivan get $500,000?
Second coming of Richie Williams. Absolute battler.
Well Hooper reported last year that both of the stronger Fainu brothers are on an average of 500k a year for 4 years. That’s the astonishing one.
julian87 wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 9:29 am
I don’t rate him as highly as others but there could be an opportunity to snake Latu Fainu and have an each way bet on the 2 NSW under 20s halves from last season I reckon.
Scott Fulton got the ass from Tigers (signed all 3 of the brothers there). He’s been jumped by Galvin and seems the 4th choice half at Wests. And will remain that way next year when Luai replaces Sezer. You’d think Sullivan gets afforded plenty of opportunities having been signed for 500k too
Reports were they gave him a ridiculous contract (similar to Sullivan) so if he doesn’t sniff first grade he’s bit of a salary cap issue for them as well.
Could all be hot air, he may be their #6 by round 6 but it’s an interesting situation in the context of Fulton and Luai happening post his signing.
How the **** did Sullivan get $500,000?
Second coming of Richie Williams. Absolute battler.
Well Hooper reported last year that both of the stronger Fainu brothers are on an average of 500k a year for 4 years. That’s the astonishing one.
Not only does that sound like a lot of money for unproven talent, they both seem like bad apples from everything I’ve read.
julian87 wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 9:29 am
I don’t rate him as highly as others but there could be an opportunity to snake Latu Fainu and have an each way bet on the 2 NSW under 20s halves from last season I reckon.
Scott Fulton got the ass from Tigers (signed all 3 of the brothers there). He’s been jumped by Galvin and seems the 4th choice half at Wests. And will remain that way next year when Luai replaces Sezer. You’d think Sullivan gets afforded plenty of opportunities having been signed for 500k too
Reports were they gave him a ridiculous contract (similar to Sullivan) so if he doesn’t sniff first grade he’s bit of a salary cap issue for them as well.
Could all be hot air, he may be their #6 by round 6 but it’s an interesting situation in the context of Fulton and Luai happening post his signing.
How the **** did Sullivan get $500,000?
Second coming of Richie Williams. Absolute battler.
Well Hooper reported last year that both of the stronger Fainu brothers are on an average of 500k a year for 4 years. That’s the astonishing one.
That's right up there with the Raiders worst overs long term deals. I don't know what's worse- chewing up overs cap and clogging up FG with dead wood or never making FG at all...
I can't bag them for that deal, other than maybe its a year too long. They were rated as two of the top four or five players in their age groups and in the two highest value positions. Fair to say that other players are ahead of them now but it isn't that much different to signing Sanders on the reported 500k+.
Yeah a little throwing stones in glass houses going on here. I think posters would be shocked to know what Chevy, Strange and soon Sanders will be on long before they've earnt it
They're making bets the same as we are.
Botman wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 6:32 pm
Yeah a little throwing stones in glass houses going on here. I think posters would be shocked to know what Chevy, Strange and soon Sanders will be on long before they've earnt it
They're making bets the same as we are.
I suppose you can mount the case that Chevy, Strange and Sanders could turn out to be solid to excellent FG players.
You can’t mount that argument for Sullivan. He’s hopeless.
Botman wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 6:32 pm
Yeah a little throwing stones in glass houses going on here. I think posters would be shocked to know what Chevy, Strange and soon Sanders will be on long before they've earnt it
They're making bets the same as we are.
I suppose you can mount the case that Chevy, Strange and Sanders could turn out to be solid to excellent FG players.
You can’t mount that argument for Sullivan. He’s hopeless.
Chances are at least one of those three are going be on pretty good money and not be a FG level footballer. And we'll be where they are with that contract, if he indeed stinks.
They're swinging for fences, as they should. And they're not content to take one swing, they swung again with the brothers Fainu
I got no problems with it. My philosophy is you turn over every stone in the pursuit of a organisation changing half and you don't stop stepping to the plate and swinging until you hit a home run.
It's the only way to have sustained success in the NRL. I got no issue with it.
generational halves are the key to premierships unless you can surround a top half with generational spine players like Brisbane or Souths did with Lockyer and GI
NoMan wrote: ↑March 13, 2024, 4:22 pm
I can't bag them for that deal, other than maybe its a year too long. They were rated as two of the top four or five players in their age groups and in the two highest value positions. Fair to say that other players are ahead of them now but it isn't that much different to signing Sanders on the reported 500k+.
Beats paying Douhei's and Mbye types 900k+.
With a few exceptions the Tigers recruitment hasn't been very successful in recent seasons. To use a rocket analogy they Shoot for the Stars and hit the fence, far too often. But I don't see much choice for them. They are looking for some diamonds in the rough to add polish to. They have Api at hooker and the developing Bula at FB. Next year they will have Luai in the halves. They could look to England for a seasoned half back and have a very good spine next year. Maybe the wraps on Galvin will come to fruition in the halves.
They have to improve on their 675 points conceded in 2023 as a must fix.
julian87 wrote: ↑March 14, 2024, 7:29 am
I don’t rate Bud Sullivan but the carry on in here about how horrid he is is rich given who are halves are.
What - an up and coming gun and an established first grader? I think our halves are ahead of the Tigers by a country mile. The weekend was evidence to that.
julian87 wrote: ↑March 14, 2024, 7:29 am
I don’t rate Bud Sullivan but the carry on in here about how horrid he is is rich given who are halves are.
What - an up and coming gun and an established first grader? I think our halves are ahead of the Tigers by a country mile. The weekend was evidence to that.
Sullivan punted to the bench after one (horrendous) game.
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 22, 2024, 8:31 pm
Sandon Smith is a player I'd be making enquiries about. Could see him develop into an elite 9 or 7.
if he can play nine consider me interested.
To be fair you'd be interested in an old boot if it could play 9.
The bot is an old school 9.
He'd love a shot at being our 9!
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
I hope we're still interested in Fifita. Des hasn't had an impact as I thought he would. He would still be a huge acquisition for us.
The Titans have been absolutely awful
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
I hope we're still interested in Fifita. Des hasn't had an impact as I thought he would. He would still be a huge acquisition for us.
The Titans have been absolutely awful
It's abysmal. Something in the water on the Gold Coast. If David wants to do anything in his career he should depart.
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
I hope we're still interested in Fifita. Des hasn't had an impact as I thought he would. He would still be a huge acquisition for us.
The Titans have been absolutely awful
It's abysmal. Something in the water on the Gold Coast. If David wants to do anything in his career he should depart.
Not just this iteration of the Titans.
I don’t think it’s a viable location for a football team. Such a transient place where football teams go to fold.
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
I hope we're still interested in Fifita. Des hasn't had an impact as I thought he would. He would still be a huge acquisition for us.
The Titans have been absolutely awful
It's abysmal. Something in the water on the Gold Coast. If David wants to do anything in his career he should depart.
Not just this iteration of the Titans.
I don’t think it’s a viable location for a football team. Such a transient place where football teams go to fold.
Not just footy teams. It's nickname of the graveyard is well earned. It's where sports teams go to die.
As far as I'm concerned he can go forge a career someplace else. At some point we need to say enough is enough. I rate him, but found his comments that he was never really considered leaving the titans to be highly disrespectful. I want the club stocked with blokes that want to be at our club. It's clear he doesn't fit the bill
Bluesbrother wrote: ↑March 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
I hope we're still interested in Fifita. Des hasn't had an impact as I thought he would. He would still be a huge acquisition for us.
Although I do still think Fifita would add to our team, after seeing the performance of Hosking over the past few weeks I think there's less of a need to upgrade second row as compared to hooker.
-PJ- wrote: ↑March 25, 2024, 1:02 pm
It’s way overdue we let Fifita go.
We offered him a truck load of cash and he turned it down.
It’s done, move on.
Reminds me of Jim Carrey to the pretty girl he was chasing Lauren Holly in Dumb and Dumber: "So You're Telling Me There's A Chance?" Try an indirect way of trying to sign his partner Shaylee Bent for NRLW for 2-3 years. If she agrees, then work on Fifita. The guy is wasting his talent on the GC.
I also think we need to look in the UK again - Newcastle signed Kai Pearce Paul and he already looks like a very good player
-PJ- wrote: ↑March 25, 2024, 1:02 pm
It’s way overdue we let Fifita go.
We offered him a truck load of cash and he turned it down.
It’s done, move on.
Reminds me of Jim Carrey to the pretty girl he was chasing Lauren Holly in Dumb and Dumber: "So You're Telling Me There's A Chance?" Try an indirect way of trying to sign his partner Shaylee Bent for NRLW for 2-3 years. If she agrees, then work on Fifita. The guy is wasting his talent on the GC.
I also think we need to look in the UK again - Newcastle signed Kai Pearce Paul and he already looks like a very good player
