Outside of hola I don't see who is ready to step up or drop out. Sanders comes in next season but we have multiple players off contract by then. I get the point here but I'm not seeing who deserves to be in the top 30 who is missing out.Botman wrote: ↑January 21, 2024, 10:06 amAs pointed out, the guys filling in at nsw cup don’t need to be in your top 30Raidernation wrote: ↑January 21, 2024, 9:29 am I wouldn't include Puru and smithies as props.
Each grade has 2 props starting and 2 in reserve. 4 in firsts and 4 in NSW cup minimum meaning you need 8 players who can play prop forward.
There is absolutely no reason why 1/3rd of our 30 man roster should be middle forwards.
We are unquestionably too heavy on middle forwards in our top squad
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Is it?
You have 5 or 6 middles in the 17 depending on bench makeup.
Roughly a third of your team is middles?
You have 5 or 6 middles in the 17 depending on bench makeup.
Roughly a third of your team is middles?
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The club should be trying to offload a middle or two to free up roster space for other positions. We're still short an edge imo, and a half, though i expect Sanders to fill that gap and with the departure of Morkos and HSS, there is an arguement to be made for outside backsRaidernation wrote: ↑January 21, 2024, 10:32 amOutside of hola I don't see who is ready to step up or drop out. Sanders comes in next season but we have multiple players off contract by then. I get the point here but I'm not seeing who deserves to be in the top 30 who is missing out.Botman wrote: ↑January 21, 2024, 10:06 amAs pointed out, the guys filling in at nsw cup don’t need to be in your top 30Raidernation wrote: ↑January 21, 2024, 9:29 am I wouldn't include Puru and smithies as props.
Each grade has 2 props starting and 2 in reserve. 4 in firsts and 4 in NSW cup minimum meaning you need 8 players who can play prop forward.
There is absolutely no reason why 1/3rd of our 30 man roster should be middle forwards.
We are unquestionably too heavy on middle forwards in our top squad
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Offload a Middle and a hooker .
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Patuki-Case and Clydsdale should be in NSW cup most of or all of this year. Theres definitely going to be a roadblock for those guys in the early rounds at least.
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Yeah that’s one of the major problems when you’re over invested, it creates road blocks for players you’re trying to develop
Like with all due respect to Peter Hola who is trying to carve out his own career, I want Clydesdale and players like him getting the nsw cup development time over Hola
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I'm honestly not bothered if we lose him to the comp we want Levi to go to
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Canberra Raiders prop Peter Hola turns down two Super League clubs to stay in the NRL
CANBERRA RAIDERS prop Peter Hola has rejected two Super League clubs to remain in the NRL, League Express understands. Hola had been linked with a move to the northern hemisphere earlier this month, but the 24-year-old has turned down both Leigh Leopards and Salford Red Devils.
“He hasn’t been offered, but clubs have come chasing him,” agent Chris Orr said. “Leigh and Salford were chasing him but he decided that he still has many years invthe NRL and wants to pursue his NRL journey.
Read more: https://www.totalrl.com/canberra-raider ... in-in-nrl/
CANBERRA RAIDERS prop Peter Hola has rejected two Super League clubs to remain in the NRL, League Express understands. Hola had been linked with a move to the northern hemisphere earlier this month, but the 24-year-old has turned down both Leigh Leopards and Salford Red Devils.
“He hasn’t been offered, but clubs have come chasing him,” agent Chris Orr said. “Leigh and Salford were chasing him but he decided that he still has many years invthe NRL and wants to pursue his NRL journey.
Read more: https://www.totalrl.com/canberra-raider ... in-in-nrl/
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I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
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Yeah I think the highlight of his career with us was this post in 2021
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The question is why does Hola see a path? Surely, he’s looked around at the congestion of middles at the club and how he’s well down the pecking order like the rest of us. Why has he still decided to hang around rather than taking the respectable pathway of hitting the ESL?Botman wrote: ↑January 23, 2024, 8:29 pm I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
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You see yourself as an outside chance for a bench spot Ruben?Ruben Daley wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 3:45 pmThe question is why does Hola see a path? Surely, he’s looked around at the congestion of middles at the club and how he’s well down the pecking order like the rest of us. Why has he still decided to hang around rather than taking the respectable pathway of hitting the ESL?Botman wrote: ↑January 23, 2024, 8:29 pm I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
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Billy Walker wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 3:59 pmYou see yourself as an outside chance for a bench spot Ruben?Ruben Daley wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 3:45 pmThe question is why does Hola see a path? Surely, he’s looked around at the congestion of middles at the club and how he’s well down the pecking order like the rest of us. Why has he still decided to hang around rather than taking the respectable pathway of hitting the ESL?Botman wrote: ↑January 23, 2024, 8:29 pm I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
I re-read that bit and was going to change it. Goddammit.
I reckon there’s a similar gap between Hola and the 17 as there is between Hola and me in the prop pecking order.
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Could be as simple as he doesn't want to move to the UK.Ruben Daley wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 3:45 pmThe question is why does Hola see a path? Surely, he’s looked around at the congestion of middles at the club and how he’s well down the pecking order like the rest of us. Why has he still decided to hang around rather than taking the respectable pathway of hitting the ESL?Botman wrote: ↑January 23, 2024, 8:29 pm I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.
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If we lose Mooney because he was road blocked by Hola and Paulo, then that is bad retention
Mooney was nsw cup captain last year and looked a level above while playing there, also looked to be comfortable in firsts, if he doesn't make the 17 this year, I think he will walk
Mooney was nsw cup captain last year and looked a level above while playing there, also looked to be comfortable in firsts, if he doesn't make the 17 this year, I think he will walk
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and he shouldNeeeegz wrote:If we lose Mooney because he was road blocked by Hola and Paulo, then that is bad retention
Mooney was nsw cup captain last year and looked a level above while playing there, also looked to be comfortable in firsts, if he doesn't make the 17 this year, I think he will walk
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He should get a run in round 1 given Horse is out. I hope he takes his opportunity and stays in the side.bonehead wrote: ↑January 26, 2024, 8:56 amand he shouldNeeeegz wrote:If we lose Mooney because he was road blocked by Hola and Paulo, then that is bad retention
Mooney was nsw cup captain last year and looked a level above while playing there, also looked to be comfortable in firsts, if he doesn't make the 17 this year, I think he will walk
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Saulo is a good squad player who could grow a lot more than some think. He hasn't had a good run with injury and is just entering his prime years.
Guler hasn't shown any growth for a few years now. He is the one I think we should be looking to let go. Mooney should be ahead of him.
I too couldn't blame Mooney for leaving. He would walk into a lot of NRL teams.
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Yeah, true. And it’d be clever of his agent not to let that get into the media.NoMan wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 6:26 pmCould be as simple as he doesn't want to move to the UK.Ruben Daley wrote: ↑January 25, 2024, 3:45 pmThe question is why does Hola see a path? Surely, he’s looked around at the congestion of middles at the club and how he’s well down the pecking order like the rest of us. Why has he still decided to hang around rather than taking the respectable pathway of hitting the ESL?Botman wrote: ↑January 23, 2024, 8:29 pm I could write 1000 words on this, but it all boils down to something pretty simple... I think Peter Hola should have taken one of these offers up. I dont see a path to FG for him at this club and i dont see a path for him to prove himself to other clubs either.
I respect him not giving up on his NRL career, and i hope it works out for him one way or the other, because i actually think he's a good player. But his best move might be to jump to the ESL and establish himself there as a quality player at that level. There is a a good long, and very respectable career to be had there.