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The trade has finally happened. Baker Mayfield to Panthers for a conditional 5th round pick. Browns picking up $10m of his 2022 salary.
They really nailed that one. :lol:
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Yeah I’m not a fan. Just a pointless signing. Panthers should’ve just tanked with Darnold and see if there’s anything there with Corral.

College football has had another seismic shift, with USC and UCLA ditching the Pac-12 for the Big-10. SEC and Big-10 both at 16 teams now.

For fun, my additions for 24 team super leagues:

Big 10
Notre Dame
Oregon
Washington
Duke (for basketball)
Virginia
West Virginia
Pitt
Cincinnati

SEC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Kansas (for basketball)
Virginia Tech

The leftovers of ACC / Big-12 / Pac-12 plus a few group of 5 schools to combine for another 24 team league which would be the second tier league behind SEC/Big10, but slightly above the rest.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 7, 2022, 7:39 am The trade has finally happened. Baker Mayfield to Panthers for a conditional 5th round pick. Browns picking up $10m of his 2022 salary.
They really nailed that one. :lol:
The panthers are a mess. Baker is going to be just good enough to keep them out of the running for one of the better QBs in what looks like a stacked class
Madness. This is why keeping guys like Rhule around a year too long is always a bad idea
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Botman wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:48 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 7, 2022, 7:39 am The trade has finally happened. Baker Mayfield to Panthers for a conditional 5th round pick. Browns picking up $10m of his 2022 salary.
They really nailed that one. :lol:
The panthers are a mess. Baker is going to be just good enough to keep them out of the running for one of the better QBs in what looks like a stacked class
Madness. This is why keeping guys like Rhule around a year too long is always a bad idea
Yeah, exactly how I feel. Really disappointing, unnecessary move.
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the bone wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:44 am College football has had another seismic shift, with USC and UCLA ditching the Pac-12 for the Big-10. SEC and Big-10 both at 16 teams now.

For fun, my additions for 24 team super leagues:

Big 10
Notre Dame
Oregon
Washington
Duke (for basketball)
Virginia
West Virginia
Pitt
Cincinnati

SEC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Kansas (for basketball)
Virginia Tech

The leftovers of ACC / Big-12 / Pac-12 plus a few group of 5 schools to combine for another 24 team league which would be the second tier league behind SEC/Big10, but slightly above the rest.
It's strange because i sort of understand the need for this shift as far as college football goes
but to drag the other sports into this madness makes no sense... why can't the schools just form these super conferences in college football and leave the other sports alone in their conferences now.
College football is a different beast to the other college sports, including basketball even accounting for march madness.

Just let the football programme go it on their own and leave the others where they belong

The SEC and Big 10 becoming NFC/AFC of college football is going to make for some VERY **** cool college football season.
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the bone wrote: July 7, 2022, 11:56 am
Botman wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:48 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 7, 2022, 7:39 am The trade has finally happened. Baker Mayfield to Panthers for a conditional 5th round pick. Browns picking up $10m of his 2022 salary.
They really nailed that one. :lol:
The panthers are a mess. Baker is going to be just good enough to keep them out of the running for one of the better QBs in what looks like a stacked class
Madness. This is why keeping guys like Rhule around a year too long is always a bad idea
Yeah, exactly how I feel. Really disappointing, unnecessary move.
I too am sad for Panthers..... :roflmao
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Botman wrote: July 7, 2022, 12:54 pm
the bone wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:44 am College football has had another seismic shift, with USC and UCLA ditching the Pac-12 for the Big-10. SEC and Big-10 both at 16 teams now.

For fun, my additions for 24 team super leagues:

Big 10
Notre Dame
Oregon
Washington
Duke (for basketball)
Virginia
West Virginia
Pitt
Cincinnati

SEC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Kansas (for basketball)
Virginia Tech

The leftovers of ACC / Big-12 / Pac-12 plus a few group of 5 schools to combine for another 24 team league which would be the second tier league behind SEC/Big10, but slightly above the rest.
It's strange because i sort of understand the need for this shift as far as college football goes
but to drag the other sports into this madness makes no sense... why can't the schools just form these super conferences in college football and leave the other sports alone in their conferences now.
College football is a different beast to the other college sports, including basketball even accounting for march madness.

Just let the football programme go it on their own and leave the others where they belong

The SEC and Big 10 becoming NFC/AFC of college football is going to make for some VERY **** cool college football season.
It kinda streamlines it for the NFL if they do it too. I like it.
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the bone wrote: July 7, 2022, 11:56 am
Botman wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:48 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 7, 2022, 7:39 am The trade has finally happened. Baker Mayfield to Panthers for a conditional 5th round pick. Browns picking up $10m of his 2022 salary.
They really nailed that one. :lol:
The panthers are a mess. Baker is going to be just good enough to keep them out of the running for one of the better QBs in what looks like a stacked class
Madness. This is why keeping guys like Rhule around a year too long is always a bad idea
Yeah, exactly how I feel. Really disappointing, unnecessary move.
Very unusual to see a trade where both teams get an F.
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Botman wrote: July 7, 2022, 12:54 pm
the bone wrote: July 7, 2022, 10:44 am College football has had another seismic shift, with USC and UCLA ditching the Pac-12 for the Big-10. SEC and Big-10 both at 16 teams now.

For fun, my additions for 24 team super leagues:

Big 10
Notre Dame
Oregon
Washington
Duke (for basketball)
Virginia
West Virginia
Pitt
Cincinnati

SEC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Kansas (for basketball)
Virginia Tech

The leftovers of ACC / Big-12 / Pac-12 plus a few group of 5 schools to combine for another 24 team league which would be the second tier league behind SEC/Big10, but slightly above the rest.
It's strange because i sort of understand the need for this shift as far as college football goes
but to drag the other sports into this madness makes no sense... why can't the schools just form these super conferences in college football and leave the other sports alone in their conferences now.
College football is a different beast to the other college sports, including basketball even accounting for march madness.

Just let the football programme go it on their own and leave the others where they belong

The SEC and Big 10 becoming NFC/AFC of college football is going to make for some VERY **** cool college football season.
Yeah I think eventually college sports will evolve to different conferences for each sport, or at the very least, specific conferences for football, and the rest combined. Till then though, and despite football being king, there comes a point when you’d take a top 5 basketball program over a team that is in the 40-50 range of top football teams.
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Rosen to Browns to cover for Watto
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Matt wrote: July 22, 2022, 9:11 am Rosen to Browns to cover for Watto
How's that for a vote of confidence in Brisset. :lol:
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We'll they'll need 3 QBs on the roster for his suspension period
I still think Brissett will start but cant hurt to have some options behind him
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Jimmy G now told he can seek a trade. Seahawks have the draft capital and no QB. Would be short odds to land him.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 22, 2022, 3:40 pm Jimmy G now told he can seek a trade. Seahawks have the draft capital and no QB. Would be short odds to land him.
I think Seattle will ultimately end up with him. I dont think it will be via trade
Seattle have to be sitting there right now thinking where else can he go?
There is really no one for him now that Baker has landed in Carolina... Jimmy G's contract will eventually become guaranteed for this year, i think its the date for roster cut down... the hawks can probably bet the niners will straight up cut him before they pay him 25m to be a back up QB.
Also the Hawks only have 17m in cap space, so they would have to redo the deal or make another corresponding move to fit in Jimmy G

So they can and will patiently wait for the niners to cut him.
The browns are an interesting wild card... because of the structure of the Watson deal, they have plenty of space. They could bring Jimmy in for a year if Watson is suspended the entire season? Would they do it? I'm not sure, but they'd have the cap space and need and they've clearly decided to go all in with this roster over the next few years.
They dont have much to trade but i doubt the hawks would offer much and the Niners would probably rather send him to the AFC N than to have to cut him and risk him showing up in their division
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Botman wrote: July 22, 2022, 4:04 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 22, 2022, 3:40 pm Jimmy G now told he can seek a trade. Seahawks have the draft capital and no QB. Would be short odds to land him.
I think Seattle will ultimately end up with him. I dont think it will be via trade
Seattle have to be sitting there right now thinking where else can he go?
There is really no one for him now that Baker has landed in Carolina... Jimmy G's contract will eventually become guaranteed for this year, i think its the date for roster cut down... the hawks can probably bet the niners will straight up cut him before they pay him 25m to be a back up QB.
Also the Hawks only have 17m in cap space, so they would have to redo the deal or make another corresponding move to fit in Jimmy G

So they can and will patiently wait for the niners to cut him.
The browns are an interesting wild card... because of the structure of the Watson deal, they have plenty of space. They could bring Jimmy in for a year if Watson is suspended the entire season? Would they do it? I'm not sure, but they'd have the cap space and need and they've clearly decided to go all in with this roster over the next few years.
They dont have much to trade but i doubt the hawks would offer much and the Niners would probably rather send him to the AFC N than to have to cut him and risk him showing up in their division
$17m in cap space is plenty to fit him in. If they brought him in via trade or FA it wouldn't be on his current deal. Fairly easy restructure and extension will sort it out.

Biggest problem is no team will see Jimmy G as a long term solution. Whoever lands him will always have an eye open for an upgrade.
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The Cowboys are adding potential help in the return game by signing wide receiver KaVontae Turpin.

To make room for Turpin on the 90-man roster, the Cowboys waived fullback Nick Ralston.

Turpin was named USFL MVP for the New Jersey Generals in June after leading the league in receiving and also posting a punt return touchdown. The former TCU star went undrafted in 2019, likely due in part to reported off-the-field issues.

Turpin could compete right away to earn a spot as a return specialist as well as a spot in the receiver rotation. CeeDee Lamb is unlikely to be the featured punt returner now that he's the No. 1 receiver.
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Thats massive inclusion. The rest of the NFC East will be scrambling to upgrade their defensive backfields now.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 9:45 am Thats massive inclusion. The rest of the NFC East will be scrambling to upgrade their defensive backfields now.
The balance power just shifted dramatically. :lol:

We're into camps now and the first major injury has occurred to a contender... Bucs Center Ryan Jensen went down today with what is considered a serious knee injury. That Bucs OL is now potentially replacing all 3 interior OL... sub optimal for a team lead by Tom Brady, who hates interior pressure more than most and is now firmly in his mid 40s.
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Botman wrote: July 29, 2022, 10:24 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 9:45 am Thats massive inclusion. The rest of the NFC East will be scrambling to upgrade their defensive backfields now.
The balance power just shifted dramatically. :lol:

We're into camps now and the first major injury has occurred to a contender... Bucs Center Ryan Jensen went down today with what is considered a serious knee injury. That Bucs OL is now potentially replacing all 3 interior OL... sub optimal for a team lead by Tom Brady, who hates interior pressure more than most and is now firmly in his mid 40s.
Nek minnit. Brady announces retirement again.
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BREAKING: 49ers and Deebo Samuel agree to 3-year extension worth $73.5M, with $58.1M guaranteed. (via Ian Rapoport)
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Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 1:07 pm
Botman wrote: July 29, 2022, 10:24 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 9:45 am Thats massive inclusion. The rest of the NFC East will be scrambling to upgrade their defensive backfields now.
The balance power just shifted dramatically. :lol:

We're into camps now and the first major injury has occurred to a contender... Bucs Center Ryan Jensen went down today with what is considered a serious knee injury. That Bucs OL is now potentially replacing all 3 interior OL... sub optimal for a team lead by Tom Brady, who hates interior pressure more than most and is now firmly in his mid 40s.
Nek minnit. Brady announces retirement again.
:roflmao poor Tom... oh wait.

As for Cowboys, I know, its the other league, but he was still the MVP, so must have done something right. He will be a returner and very marginal WR reps guy. Likely slot given his size
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Matt wrote: August 1, 2022, 2:05 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 1:07 pm
Botman wrote: July 29, 2022, 10:24 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 29, 2022, 9:45 am Thats massive inclusion. The rest of the NFC East will be scrambling to upgrade their defensive backfields now.
The balance power just shifted dramatically. :lol:

We're into camps now and the first major injury has occurred to a contender... Bucs Center Ryan Jensen went down today with what is considered a serious knee injury. That Bucs OL is now potentially replacing all 3 interior OL... sub optimal for a team lead by Tom Brady, who hates interior pressure more than most and is now firmly in his mid 40s.
Nek minnit. Brady announces retirement again.
:roflmao poor Tom... oh wait.

As for Cowboys, I know, its the other league, but he was still the MVP, so must have done something right. He will be a returner and very marginal WR reps guy. Likely slot given his size
MVP in a league full of guys who aren't good enough to make the practice squad on NFL teams. This is one of the least newsworthy roster moves of the offseason.
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Matt wrote: August 1, 2022, 2:02 pm BREAKING: 49ers and Deebo Samuel agree to 3-year extension worth $73.5M, with $58.1M guaranteed. (via Ian Rapoport)
Good. I need that for my fantasy dynasty team... i've had Davonte Adams go from Rodgers to Carr (i also have Rodgers in that league), i've had Tyreek Hill get traded to miami to muddy up Waddle's situation, god damn Melvin Gordon wont piss off out of Javonte Williams life... its been a very annoying off season for the 2 3 time champs who are shooting for a hattrick and 4 titles in 5 years... Deebo getting traded to some **** situation was all i needed! :lol:
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WRs really cashed in this off-season.
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Northern Raider wrote: August 1, 2022, 3:39 pm WRs really cashed in this off-season.
3 of them have the same agent too (i think its AJ, DK and Deebo). Good off season for that fella.
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Watto finally suspended, it's 6wks.
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Dolphins investigation results in 500k fine, the owner suspended and the lost of 2023 first round pick and 2024 third

The timing of this news drop is cynically interesting
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Botman wrote: August 3, 2022, 6:59 am Dolphins investigation results in 500k fine, the owner suspended and the lost of 2023 first round pick and 2024 third

The timing of this news drop is cynically interesting
$1.5m fine for Stephen Ross, which is the loose change in his ashtray.

1st round pick hurts but at least it's only going to be no32. :P
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1st round pick, that’s brutal.
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Interesting that the findings of the investigation found egregious tampering violations for Brady and Payton, but was clear to say the claims of Ross incentivising tanking as per Flores's claim was considered "not intended or taken to be a serious offer, nor was the subject pursued in any respect by Mr. Ross or anyone else at the club."
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the bone wrote: August 3, 2022, 11:38 am 1st round pick, that’s brutal.
Reckon they couldn't prove the tanking allegation so stung them bad for the tampering.

Like the old Al Capone trial. Couldn't get him for the raft of serious crimes they knew he was guilty of so went hard on the tax evasion.
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Broncos WR Tim Patrick suffers ACL injury, potentially out for the season. (via Ian Rapoport + James Palmer)
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Yeah that one sucks. I thought he had a good chance to emerge over Juedy as the Lockett type player for Russ in Denver.
Super under-rated player. Hope he gets back
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Botman wrote: August 3, 2022, 8:32 pm Yeah that one sucks. I thought he had a good chance to emerge over Juedy as the Lockett type player for Russ in Denver.
Super under-rated player. Hope he gets back
Yup. I thought he looked good with serious upside
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Interesting question raised about the Dolphins penalty for tampering. How does Brady and his agent escape penalty too? These talks were a two way street.
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