Canberra Raiders extend Ricky Stuart's contract to end 2025
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Re: Canberra Raiders extend Ricky Stuart's contract to end 2025
Can anyone send me the link for the recruitment manager at the club?
Wouldn’t mind having a gig where I only need to eke out an above average performance every 3 or so years and get rewarded with lavish infinite contract extensions.
Then again I can’t satisfy the primary essential criterion of every advertised job of having had a board member change my nappies so maybe there is no point applying.
Wouldn’t mind having a gig where I only need to eke out an above average performance every 3 or so years and get rewarded with lavish infinite contract extensions.
Then again I can’t satisfy the primary essential criterion of every advertised job of having had a board member change my nappies so maybe there is no point applying.
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Glad we finally won a bidding war and commiserations to the Yass Magpies for missing out on his signature.
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There’s still time. Get to it.Mickey_Raider wrote: Then again I can’t satisfy the primary essential criterion of every advertised job of having had a board member change my nappies so maybe there is no point applying.
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Cartwright could be good.bonehead wrote:need a freshen up in the assistant space then.
I'd like to see Ennis re-contracted and possibly someone like John Cartwright or Trent Barrett, hard to tell what Carbone is doing at NSW cup level and I'm ok to let McFadden go.
What we desperately are lacking is someone to bring our gun juniors to 1st grade readiness, hopefully Hickman and a new assistant can do that.
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We definitely need someone that can develop a bunch of kids and at the same time have the kahunas to tell Stuart when to pull the pin on some of his pet players. Not sure Barrett is that guy.
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Re: Canberra Raiders extend Ricky Stuart's contract to end 2025
A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
2. 8 coaches across the last 16 years have won competitions. Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler, Robinson and Cleary are unavailable. All 5 you may argue are better coaches than Stuart. Would you take Flanagan, Green or Maguire ahead of Stuart? Other than the 5 great coaches over the last 16 years I'd suggest Stuart is the next best and as good as Canberra can attract.
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
2. 8 coaches across the last 16 years have won competitions. Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler, Robinson and Cleary are unavailable. All 5 you may argue are better coaches than Stuart. Would you take Flanagan, Green or Maguire ahead of Stuart? Other than the 5 great coaches over the last 16 years I'd suggest Stuart is the next best and as good as Canberra can attract.
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I opened this thread thinking how much negativity can I bear in the space of a minute. Took one second for needle to spin100%, break the bar limiter, and its spinning like a top.
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True to some degree, however there are coaches like Todd Payten, Cameron Ciraldo to name a few, that are fairly new and would be a better choice. I would say Flanagan is on par with Ricky.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 6:58 pm A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
2. 8 coaches across the last 16 years have won competitions. Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler, Robinson and Cleary are unavailable. All 5 you may argue are better coaches than Stuart. Would you take Flanagan, Green or Maguire ahead of Stuart? Other than the 5 great coaches over the last 16 years I'd suggest Stuart is the next best and as good as Canberra can attract.
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I don’t think citing the coach of the only club who beats us in terms of premiership drought is as compelling as you think it is.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 6:58 pm A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
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The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
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I'm asking your thoughts on a coach who has had the exact same tenure. Who has done a better job?Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:10 pmI don’t think citing the coach of the only club who beats us in terms of premiership drought is as compelling as you think it is.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 6:58 pm A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
Re: Canberra Raiders extend Ricky Stuart's contract to end 2025
Incorrect. At this stage a professional outfit had to extend Stuart or cut him (or make clear the succession plan). You need to have a clear mid/long term coaching direction or it is more difficult to sign players.Coastalraider wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 5:09 pm It’s expected, but completely unnecessary at this point in time. Not on the market, stated he wouldn’t go anywhere else, and already contracted next year.
Any professional outfit would wait to see where we end up in 2022, how we recruit for 2023, and how we start next year before committing.
The Storm are discovering that atm. As good as Bellamy is, him signing on 1 year at a time is hurting them. No other coach would get away with this
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It’s funny, I look on Facebook and see this news and 95% of the comments are all happy and positive.CRaid wrote:I opened this thread thinking how much negativity can I bear in the space of a minute. Took one second for needle to spin100%, break the bar limiter, and its spinning like a top.
But not this place.
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It’s a good questionBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:17 pmI'm asking your thoughts on a coach who has had the exact same tenure. Who has done a better job?Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:10 pmI don’t think citing the coach of the only club who beats us in terms of premiership drought is as compelling as you think it is.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 6:58 pm A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
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I just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
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If we keep extending a guy who cant get the job done i guess we'll never knowBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:27 pmI just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
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Re: Canberra Raiders extend Ricky Stuart's contract to end 2025
Well therein lies the question Botman, for you, what is 'the job'?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:30 pmIf we keep extending a guy who cant get the job done i guess we'll never knowBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:27 pmI just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
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95% of Facebook twats are brain-dead.Brew wrote:It’s funny, I look on Facebook and see this news and 95% of the comments are all happy and positive.CRaid wrote:I opened this thread thinking how much negativity can I bear in the space of a minute. Took one second for needle to spin100%, break the bar limiter, and its spinning like a top.
But not this place.
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To put a successful football on the park. It's really as simple as that.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:37 pmWell therein lies the question Botman, for you, what is 'the job'?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:30 pmIf we keep extending a guy who cant get the job done i guess we'll never knowBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:27 pmI just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
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I'm personally fine with this decision. As I've said previously, there are only a handful of coaches I'd put in front of him and none of them are coming to the raiders. We've been in this position before under Stuart and he has proven on more than one occasion that he will get it right eventually and we'll be contesting for premierships.
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Blinded by their passion for the club they can only see the negatives. It’s such a shame really, being so emotionally reliant on the results of week to week footy can really take the joy from following the careers of our players and club.Brew wrote:It’s funny, I look on Facebook and see this news and 95% of the comments are all happy and positive.CRaid wrote:I opened this thread thinking how much negativity can I bear in the space of a minute. Took one second for needle to spin100%, break the bar limiter, and its spinning like a top.
But not this place.
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What do you mean by “get it right eventually”FROG wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 8:07 pm I'm personally fine with this decision. As I've said previously, there are only a handful of coaches I'd put in front of him and none of them are coming to the raiders. We've been in this position before under Stuart and he has proven on more than one occasion that he will get it right eventually and we'll be contesting for premierships.
He had it right. He knows what’s successful and he’s gone away from that.
His team selections are just mind boggling and the use of the named 17 each has me numb.
You don’t go from GFs and prelims to missing the finals the way we have.
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I’ll just put this here……Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:40 pmTo put a successful football on the park. It's really as simple as that.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:37 pmWell therein lies the question Botman, for you, what is 'the job'?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:30 pmIf we keep extending a guy who cant get the job done i guess we'll never knowBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:27 pmI just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
We can be better. It is what we should strive to do.
Botman wrote: ↑September 8, 2021, 1:50 pmNo, what you missed is that success isn't rigidly defined in sport, or any field as simply having to achieve highest goal. You don't just have one aim, one goal that you're looking to achieve.Billy Walker wrote: ↑September 8, 2021, 12:44 pm If you google positive contribution you find a definition that involves one making a contribution to something to help make it successful.
Did I miss the club’s success that Croker has contributed to?
It's such a dumb, narrow and rigid place to be that success in RL is defined only as having won a NRL premiership.
Colour me unsurprised this is come from you.
Success is the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and yes the ultimate aim and purpose is a premiership but teams and athletes and organisations have many different aims and goals and purposes. A team's goals and aims can also differ depending on where they sit in a contender/rebuilding process. When Stuart first took this club over, it was in need of a rebuild, the goal and aims at the start of that process were different to what they were in 2019-20-21.
Jarrod Croker has had his share of failures, as has the club in his time.
But they've also had many great successes, in fact it has been the most successful period in Raiders football since the mid 90's, and Jarrod Croker has contributed to that success.
And the fact they may never have reached the highest peak of the mountain and achieved the top goal, does invalidate the other successes they've had along the way, no matter how many times some dumb **** on the internet says it does.
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God Botman is an idiot.
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Decent turnout from the sanctimonious qbn mafia apologists tonight.
Probably the same lot who will be howling and calling Tapine a traitor when he leaves for a club with legimate professional bona fides and which places ambition and success above making sure all of the old boys have jobs.
Probably the same lot who will be howling and calling Tapine a traitor when he leaves for a club with legimate professional bona fides and which places ambition and success above making sure all of the old boys have jobs.
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Excellent, you twat.
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I think Rick's drummed his whole family up here, it's outstanding viewing.
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Carn 2026.
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I’d love to watch some footy every week.KingDynamite wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 8:10 pmBlinded by their passion for the club they can only see the negatives. It’s such a shame really, being so emotionally reliant on the results of week to week footy can really take the joy from following the careers of our players and club.Brew wrote:It’s funny, I look on Facebook and see this news and 95% of the comments are all happy and positive.CRaid wrote:I opened this thread thinking how much negativity can I bear in the space of a minute. Took one second for needle to spin100%, break the bar limiter, and its spinning like a top.
But not this place.
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Not 17 low-IQ players coached to play rubbish grind-ball, with no coherent attack, where we are flat out scoring 18 points in 80 minutes and regularly blow double digit leads.
That’s what our esteemed HC presides over
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#itsjustluck, #17blokeshurtinginhere, #therefsfault.
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By which time you will be saying carn 2029, because another extension will have been inked by then.
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In order to be a successful football team in the NRL you need elite players. I'd say Brad Arthur has been pretty successful with a handful of top 4 and top 8 finishes. But he still hasn't done better than Stuart in his 9 years at the helm regarding 'getting the job done'. Judge Stuart on his merits and consider the last 9 premiership winning teams on paper. I think you'll find the raiders on paper wouldn't hold a candle to those teams. The fact we have been in the mix with the squads we have had in the last decade has been a success.Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:40 pmTo put a successful football on the park. It's really as simple as that.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:37 pmWell therein lies the question Botman, for you, what is 'the job'?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:30 pmIf we keep extending a guy who cant get the job done i guess we'll never knowBluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:27 pmI just don't think there is anyone who can take the raiders higher. If a coach is an elite option coming through, say a Robinson. Why on earth would they come to the Raiders over other clubs with more money and greater pulling power?Botman wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:13 pm The idea that we should just be happy with what we have because it could be worse ignores the other side of that... we're not obligated to hire a worse coach
We are allowed to have a rigerous coaching search conducted by competent people who understand what it takes to be a successful NRL HC, and go and hire that person
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Well, I mean Eels are on track to have made the finals 5/9 v Raiders 3/9 since both tenures started.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:17 pmI'm asking your thoughts on a coach who has had the exact same tenure. Who has done a better job?Mickey_Raider wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 7:10 pmI don’t think citing the coach of the only club who beats us in terms of premiership drought is as compelling as you think it is.Bluesbrother wrote: ↑July 19, 2022, 6:58 pm A couple of questions for those critical of Stuart
1. Brad Arthur or Ricky Stuart - who has done better in their 9 years at their respective clubs? Consistent finals but have taken the back door exit each time.
Again, don’t think this is going down in reality the way it might be in your head.
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