Canberra Raiders and George Williams agree on release

[Timbo]

Jesus **** Christ.

[GreenMachine]

Geroge's Instagram Tweet has been liked by:

- Jack Wighton
- Josh Papalii
- Hudson Young
- Joe Tapine
- Jordan Rapana
- Sia Soliola
- Bailey Simonsson
- Corey Harawira-Naera
- Curtis Scott
- Harley Smith Shields

Blokes who liked that tweet who can easily enough be EDIT to no great loss of performance or culture (given current culture) and are on thin enough ice they'd earn far less or even nothing at other clubs..

Young
Rapana
Sia
Simo
CHN
C Scott
HSS...

Blokes who have liked that post who would be a loss.
Wighton
Papalli
Tapine...

Who also happen to be 3 of the dullest shovels in the shed so probably easily enough smoothed over. Shrug.

That’s exactly how I see it.

[Crash Ball]

He really picked the wrong club to pull the old Dugan/Fergo not playing card.

[Finite]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

[benda]

Its a hard on to judge.

My opinion is he isnt mentally committed to the club. That's obvious with what he has dished out.

Question is does he have any real challenges he needs to overcome for his welfare. I hope he doesnt.

At least now he can draw a line in the sand and move forward.

[Raider of d Lost Ark]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

Exactly.

Now he can jump on a plane and fly home at the first opportunity, you’d think he would happy.

[Botman]

He’s after a payout now.

That’s exactly what he’s after...wrongful dismissal versus termination as a result of not performing your duties (training and playing)...

**** Perry Brothers Circus!

That's why i wish we could just ignore this nonsense. It's all just haggling for money... George wants his salary until the end of year, the Raiders want to not pay him a cent more.
Everything else is just posturing that ultimately lead to the same outcome that was coming anyways, a deal is struck in the middle ground.

That said, the Raiders if they weree really wanting to be pricks should simply say "accept the release effective immediate now, or see your contract... the choice is yours"
Im not sure that's a great idea, given we have enough trouble recruiting as it is, being seen as a club that doesnt treat its players well isnt a good spot for us.

[Postman Pat]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

Cash, it might take months to organize a flight now a days. Obviously thought he could have it all his own way.

[Botman]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

[GreenMachine]

He’s after a payout now.

That’s exactly what he’s after...wrongful dismissal versus termination as a result of not performing your duties (training and playing)...

**** Perry Brothers Circus!

That's why i wish we could just ignore this nonsense. It's all just haggling for money... George wants his salary until the end of year, the Raiders want to not pay him a cent more.
Everything else is just posturing that ultimately lead to the same outcome that was coming anyways, a deal is struck in the middle ground.

That said, the Raiders if they weree really wanting to be pricks should simply say "accept the release effective immediate now, or see your contract... the choice is yours"
Im not sure that's a great idea, given we have enough trouble recruiting as it is, being seen as a club that doesnt treat its players well isnt a good spot for us.

Agree with what you’ve said.
We need to move and quickly in the player market and not let the stench of this dilemma linger...

[Raider47]

My concern is that all our players seem to be on George's side. We can say all we want, toughen up blah blah, but it's a terrible predicament to be in moving forward if our players are not on the same page as the club.

CNK the latest to show his support.

[Seamonkey]

Geroge's Instagram Tweet has been liked by:

- Jack Wighton
- Josh Papalii
- Hudson Young
- Joe Tapine
- Jordan Rapana
- Sia Soliola
- Bailey Simonsson
- Corey Harawira-Naera
- Curtis Scott
- Harley Smith Shields
- Nick Cotric

Add CNK to the list!

[Finite]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

Cash, it might take months to organize a flight now a days. Obviously thought he could have it all his own way.

Exactly

[Finite]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

[Canberra Milk]

The rebuild might take less time than we thought

On the flipside, it might not be much of a rebuild

[cat]

Someone explain to me the issue here? He asked for a release and got one. He wanted end of year, club said no you go now. I don't understand the issue. I have genuine sympathy for George and his family if they are struggling but if you break your contract you don't get to negotiate the terms of how to break that contract as far as I'm concerned.

The club probably doesn't want him to occupy the 7 for the rest of the year when we could free up cap space and prepare the position for other players. Not to mention, its not like he has been playing well despite the issues.

Cash, it might take months to organize a flight now a days. Obviously thought he could have it all his own way.

Just checked , he can get a flight Saturday for under $800
There is no cap on how many can be on the flight leaving Australia

This is the same guy who had a whinge on social media when he got stuck in quarantine in Melbourne
He/his manager know how to use social media to get what they want

[Billy Walker]

Good luck George and thanks for the memories! I hope he is in a good place.

From the clubs perspective - not a good look. Almost like an ugly teenage breakup. I’ve got not drama with the outcome but Don has screwed up the process badly. Player upset, team down a half, fans unhappy, yuck!

[Walter]

Geroge's Instagram Tweet has been liked by:

- Jack Wighton
- Josh Papalii
- Hudson Young
- Joe Tapine
- Jordan Rapana
- Sia Soliola
- Bailey Simonsson
- Corey Harawira-Naera
- Curtis Scott
- Harley Smith Shields
- Nick Cotric

Add CNK to the list!

At least he has the excuse of still being drugged up after the operation! And/or he’s come around and gone ****


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[LastRaider]

I think Hoops from NRL360 has come of worse tonight. Said one story and then George Williams fired back on Twitter.

[Timbo]

It’s simple.

George wants to go home.

Raiders say, since the season is dusted and we need to replace you, head off now.

George says ‘wait no, I would like the several hundred thousand dollars I would make by playing out the season’.

The club said ‘no’.

George is blowing up on social media because he played himself out of a tonne of money.

[Postman Pat]

It’s simple.

George wants to go home.

Raiders say, since the season is dusted and we need to replace you, head off now.

George says ‘wait no, I would like the several hundred thousand dollars I would make by playing out the season’.

The club said ‘no’.

George is blowing up on social media because he played himself out of a tonne of money.

[Luffto]

Well, we're in trouble as a club.

[Bovrick]

I wonder how many players ending up in opposition to the club for people to spot that it isn't a series of indepedent players that are the problem. Sack them all, bring in a whole new squad of ultra-loyal, ultra-professionals, and I expect that given a few years we'll end up in the same position as now.

[Botman]

Well, we're in trouble as a club.

searing insight as always Luffto!

[afgtnk]

Geroge's Instagram Tweet has been liked by:

- Jack Wighton
- Josh Papalii
- Hudson Young
- Joe Tapine
- Jordan Rapana
- Sia Soliola
- Bailey Simonsson
- Corey Harawira-Naera
- Curtis Scott
- Harley Smith Shields
- Nick Cotric

Add CNK to the list!

Brad Schneider too

[Elcaptcroker]

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[Mickey_Raider]

Does Sia's support for G Williams mean that the GH assumption that he is going to seamlessly transition into the player welfare liaison once he retires is in jeopardy?

[Canberra Milk]

I wonder how many players ending up in opposition to the club for people to spot that it isn't a series of indepedent players that are the problem. Sack them all, bring in a whole new squad of ultra-loyal, ultra-professionals, and I expect that given a few years we'll end up in the same position as now.

Players stick together now and see the clubs/the business as a bit of the enemy. Ok maybe not enemy but they're wary of getting bitten. You can see that kind of culture on the Bloke in a Bar podcast.

You're right we may end up in same spot but we can't just be a doormat. First Bateman with his grand final day shenanigans (and his onfield performances weren't nearly as good the next year, by the way), now this, I'm over it

[hobbsy]

There's every chance people are reading a bit too much into this tweet.

None of us were there today, none of us know what's happening inside his head.

He could well have gone into the meeting, been told an immediate release is granted and the paperwork is ready tomorrow, so he's technically signed nothing. Then at the end of a long and **** day for the bloke he sees a headline that makes him out to be a bad guy so he snaps back. Maybe he's a couple beers deep to chill out. The rest of the playing group like his post to show their mate a bit of support in a tough time. Pretty realistic scenario.

Or maybe its all about money, but its all speculation from us.

[cat]

I'm not worried about the players liking the post, commenting would have been a different story
They like each other's posts no matter what, and i think its a bigger dig at the journo then the club
Also strongly suspect that its his manager posting tonight not him

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Imagined, it can be

[Timbo]

The likes on this tweet are making me realise that we may be really, properly ****.

Like, Craig Frawley, Marc Herbert, David Howell ****.

Matt Bickersfaff ****.

Andrew Dunemann ****.

****.

[Wiki Special]

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What does Johnny have to say?

[Timbo]

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Our surprise

Imagined, it can be

Oh shut the **** up Jonneh. What he said was 100% true about you.

[Canberra Milk]

There's every chance people are reading a bit too much into this tweet.

None of us were there today, none of us know what's happening inside his head.

He could well have gone into the meeting, been told an immediate release is granted and the paperwork is ready tomorrow, so he's technically signed nothing. Then at the end of a long and **** day for the bloke he sees a headline that makes him out to be a bad guy so he snaps back. Maybe he's a couple beers deep to chill out. The rest of the playing group like his post to show their mate a bit of support in a tough time. Pretty realistic scenario.

Or maybe its all about money, but its all speculation from us.

He's agitating for a release and prepared to sit out to make it happen. That is a big deal. Did he not understand that would be a big deal?! This isn't calling in sick to your McDonald's job.