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Jeff Horn cannot come out after the 8th round having been knocked down twice by Tim Tszyu during the fight. Most had Tszyu winning every round. A clearly dominant performance from Tim Tszyu. He will now be in line for title shots.

I hope Jeff Horn now decides to hang up the gloves. He has nothing more to prove to anyone and I hope those around him convince him of the benefits of permanent retirement from boxing.
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yeah its a shame, Horn at his peak was good but that's clearly gone, the desire is gone. I think when he got smashed up by Crawford the gap to that level was clear and he knew couldn't overcome it.

Congrats to Tszyu, I loved watching his old man, my favourite boxer, here's hoping he's got the gears to go through to the top.

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I was watching some of the lead up fights at the pub last night and wondering how on earth boxing is still a sport?

With all we know about concussions and the fact a rugby league player gets taken off and assessed everytime he gets the slightest head knock, how do we still have a “sport” which is just concussion on top of concussion?

Can’t have more than a decade left in it.
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The Nickman wrote:I was watching some of the lead up fights at the pub last night and wondering how on earth boxing is still a sport?

With all we know about concussions and the fact a rugby league player gets taken off and assessed everytime he gets the slightest head knock, how do we still have a “sport” which is just concussion on top of concussion?

Can’t have more than a decade left in it.
yet UFC is massive

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bonehead wrote: August 27, 2020, 8:09 am
The Nickman wrote:I was watching some of the lead up fights at the pub last night and wondering how on earth boxing is still a sport?

With all we know about concussions and the fact a rugby league player gets taken off and assessed everytime he gets the slightest head knock, how do we still have a “sport” which is just concussion on top of concussion?

Can’t have more than a decade left in it.
yet UFC is massive
....and far more brutal
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Northern Raider wrote: August 27, 2020, 9:28 am
bonehead wrote: August 27, 2020, 8:09 am
The Nickman wrote:I was watching some of the lead up fights at the pub last night and wondering how on earth boxing is still a sport?

With all we know about concussions and the fact a rugby league player gets taken off and assessed everytime he gets the slightest head knock, how do we still have a “sport” which is just concussion on top of concussion?

Can’t have more than a decade left in it.
yet UFC is massive
....and far more brutal
...and be lucky to last FIVE years...
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Boxing wont go anywhere. It'll exist, it'll just continue to be more and more irrelevant the until it's so irrelevant no one even bothers reporting it. The combat sports talent are moving towards UFC stuff over boxing, there doesnt seem to be any Ali level talent coming through who can take the sport and elevate it again... to many weight divisions too many different commissions. and the sport appears to be as crooked as they come, with seemingly every other "big event" bout marred by judging controversies... no bodies got time for that nonsense.

The most attention boxing has gotten on a world level in the last little while was the Pac-Mayweather fight. Which was unique in that it was such a hyped fight for so long, it attracted the attention of non boxing fans. And recently that Fury- Weilder fight which goes to my theory that boxing only really enters the sporting landscape properly and stays there if you've got a strong and compelling heavyweight division with big time bouts at least every month in that division. I dont know enough to know if those guys and others are deep and compelling enough to keep the sport relevant all year round but you get two charismatic, big units who are willing to knock the piss out of each other and can promote, and people will tune in, even casual fans.

UFC is only going from strength to strength, it's not going anywhere any time soon. Though i dont watch it or care for it at all, i understand there will always be a market for this kind of sports and they're catering wonderfully to it. They'll never be a major sports player in the way the other sports do in terms of attention share for the populace but they'll have plenty enough to keep ticking over, filling stadiums, selling PPVs and generally making a crap ton of money.
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I don't really care for it either but, probably like many found myself watching the non main event fight nights during the covid period pretty regularly as there was not much other sport on. Plus they had a period of 4 fight nights in 8 days.

So due to the fact Dana White went to so much effort to build a isolated facility to get it running whilst no other sport was on in the US, he would have picked up a huge amount of new fans.

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bonehead wrote: August 27, 2020, 5:34 am yeah its a shame, Horn at his peak was good but that's clearly gone, the desire is gone. I think when he got smashed up by Crawford the gap to that level was clear and he knew couldn't overcome it.

Congrats to Tszyu, I loved watching his old man, my favourite boxer, here's hoping he's got the gears to go through to the top.

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Many started as amateurs with an Olympic qualifier background. As long as boxing remains in the Olympics I think the sport will survive.

Interesting to see who they pick next for Tim.
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as a young fella I was at the gym with mates, next room someone was thrashing the boxing set-up.
Out walked johnny Lewis with Kostya in tow

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bonehead wrote:as a young fella I was at the gym with mates, next room someone was thrashing the boxing set-up.
Out walked johnny Lewis with Kostya in tow

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Where’s Sleek? His boy got up!
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T_R wrote:
bonehead wrote:as a young fella I was at the gym with mates, next room someone was thrashing the boxing set-up.
Out walked johnny Lewis with Kostya in tow

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gangrenous wrote: August 28, 2020, 7:25 am Where’s Sleek? His boy got up!
Great win by Junior Tszyu. I thought Horndog would be too much, too soon for him but not so.

Junior is a great chance of winning a world championship if he keeps improving. Maybe even as early as next year.

The fight did more than 100,000 PPV buys @ $60 a pop so boxing in this country is alive and well. We've got some of the best young talent we've ever had. The other young bloke to keep an eye out for is Justis Huni who has qualified for the Toyko Olympics (if it ever happens). Probably the best Heavyweight talent we've ever had and he's only 20.

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Roy Jones Jnr V Mike Tyson exhibition match. Tyson has been a long time out of the ring but looks to still pack a punch in training. He will need to catch Roy Jones Jnr who is not going to stand in front of him like most heavy weight fighters have against him. I don't see Jones wanting to clinch too often for the sake of his ears. Tyson still has those metal teeth.
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Iron Mike looks good at the weigh in.

Tyson 100kg
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Called a draw, but by all unofficial accounts Tyson was the winner. No official scorers and 8 x 2 minutes rounds with the gloves being over 12oz so much bigger (more padded) than for a professional fight. Still, to stay vertical for that length of time for the 50 something fighters is a credit to both. No head gear being worn either. Ear protection deemed not necessary??
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Tim Tszyu v Bowyn Morgan this Wednesday night. If Tszyu wins he is up for a shot at the Super Welter Weight WBO world title.

Paul Gallen v Mark Hunt on the undercard.
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Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
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Tszyu with a 1st round KO of Morgan. Brutal final punch sent Morgan flying.
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RedRaider wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:56 pm Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
Watching the highlights you'd swear Hunt won but they don't always tell the true story. Think Hunt ran out of gas after 3 rounds. Waiting for Gallen to fight a legit boxer and not old fat guys. Won't hold my breath
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First three rounds Gallen looked a bit dicey, but then fitness took over and he never looked like losing.

Neither of them genuinely looked like knocking each other out either, it was the Barry Hall fight all over again, although this time Gallen clearly won.

Also, I hate boxing.
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Northern Raider wrote:
RedRaider wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:56 pm Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
Watching the highlights you'd swear Hunt won but they don't always tell the true story. Think Hunt ran out of gas after 3 rounds. Waiting for Gallen to fight a legit boxer and not old fat guys. Won't hold my breath
I haven’t seen his bouts, but I’ve been meaning to ask someone more knowledgeable. Is he actually as good as his results say, or is he just fighting chumps?
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Northern Raider wrote: December 16, 2020, 9:37 pm Tszyu with a 1st round KO of Morgan. Brutal final punch sent Morgan flying.
114 seconds for Tim Tszyu to qualify for a World Title shot. Possible opponent to be Brazil's Patrick Teixeira the current WBO Super Welter Weight Champion. He has a title defence in February though. Maybe a match against former WBA and IBF title holder Jeison Rosario from the Dominican Republic. He is only 25 and has not fought since losing a unification title fight in September against Jermel Charlo of the USA. Charlo is 30 but I would not look to match Tszyu against him until he has come up against better opponents like Rosario and or Jarrett Hurd.

Good luck to Tim Tszyu though. He appears to be as well prepared as any Australian fighter since his Dad. 2021 could be a big year for him.
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
RedRaider wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:56 pm Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
Watching the highlights you'd swear Hunt won but they don't always tell the true story. Think Hunt ran out of gas after 3 rounds. Waiting for Gallen to fight a legit boxer and not old fat guys. Won't hold my breath
I haven’t seen his bouts, but I’ve been meaning to ask someone more knowledgeable. Is he actually as good as his results say, or is he just fighting chumps?
he throws pillows and relies on fitness, hasn't fought anyone

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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
RedRaider wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:56 pm Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
Watching the highlights you'd swear Hunt won but they don't always tell the true story. Think Hunt ran out of gas after 3 rounds. Waiting for Gallen to fight a legit boxer and not old fat guys. Won't hold my breath
I haven’t seen his bouts, but I’ve been meaning to ask someone more knowledgeable. Is he actually as good as his results say, or is he just fighting chumps?
He’s fought chumps up until the last two (Hall took him to a draw). Like Boney said, he relies on fitness, also the fact nobody’s ever going to knock him out
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The Nickman wrote: December 17, 2020, 7:02 am
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
RedRaider wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:56 pm Report that Gallen has beaten Hunt in points decision over the 6 round contest.
Watching the highlights you'd swear Hunt won but they don't always tell the true story. Think Hunt ran out of gas after 3 rounds. Waiting for Gallen to fight a legit boxer and not old fat guys. Won't hold my breath
I haven’t seen his bouts, but I’ve been meaning to ask someone more knowledgeable. Is he actually as good as his results say, or is he just fighting chumps?
He’s fought chumps up until the last two (Hall took him to a draw). Like Boney said, he relies on fitness, also the fact nobody’s ever going to knock him out
Sounds like he's been watching The Simpsons and adopted Homer's strategy for winning matches
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I said it last night, you're not going to knock Gallen out, he's made a career of running head-first into ***** smashing him around the head.

Hunt was the same, he was just a beefcake, you could've smashed a bottle over his head and he would've just shrugged it off.
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I am amazed that Boxing authorities sanctioned this Anthony Mundine fight against Michael Zerafa. Zerafa knocked him out in the first round and I hope there is no more pro boxing from Anthony Mundine. Ever the showman Mundine wore golden coloured gloves. To use one of his well known comments 'he is running on old legs' and for the sake of his future health he should give boxing away for good.
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Tim Tszyu knocks out Dennis Hogan in Round 5. Hogan has fought World Champ Charlo but Tim Tszyu clearly superior to Hogan. It is now a matter of time before he gets an opportunity at a World Title. I hope he gets a Title shot soon and is not distracted by people without titles offering big money. With Title fights comes big money.
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Paul Gallen beats a former World Heavy Weight Champion with a first round knock out. I didn't see that coming and neither did Lucas Brown.
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Who did Big Daddy beat to win this world title ?

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-PJ- wrote: April 22, 2021, 7:09 pm Who did Big Daddy beat to win this world title ?

What a bum..
Browne beat Ruslan Chagaev for the title in 2016. But he was stripped of the title after failing performance enhancing drug tests. It will be interesting to see who Gallen takes on next. He will likely stay in Australia, but there is more money overseas. I wonder what his long term goal is?
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Worth noting that the "world title" he held is not even the highest best attainable within the WBA- he won one of four, yes four, given out by the WBA alone beneath their actual real champion belt. The _real_ WBA world titleholder is called the WBA Super Champion- so he briefly held one of four sub belts beneath the real WBA belt.
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BadnMean wrote:Worth noting that the "world title" he held is not even the highest best attainable within the WBA- he won one of four, yes four, given out by the WBA alone beneath their actual real champion belt. The _real_ WBA world titleholder is called the WBA Super Champion- so he briefly held one of four sub belts beneath the real WBA belt.
Really? How does this actually work? In this org each division has four belts? I can't even imagine how this would work.

I heard Gallen's jibes about 'not bragging about winning a reserve grade rugby league title' but I just assumed it was because WBA wasn't considered the strongest org (I don't know which org is considered the strongest).

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