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I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
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There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
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Thanks for the info. I must admit this time around I haven't been following the news as much so I'm a little ignorant as to the morons in victoria. First time around I was madly following everything that came up.
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Reading an article on virus transmission they're roughly 50% more transmissible in colder, less humid environments. So winter is a perfect time, combined with people getting less sunlight thus having lower vitamin D levels and lower immunity.. boom spread
I can't copy the link to my source, but it's a Harvard article "the reason for the season - why flu strikes in winter"
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I can't copy the link to my source, but it's a Harvard article "the reason for the season - why flu strikes in winter"
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Re: Coronavirus
Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 1:37 pmThere are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
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Exactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking greatNorthern Raider wrote:Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 1:37 pmThere are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
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The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
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No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
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I think another week from now we'll know if what I'm saying is complete garbage or whether there's some element of truth here.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 2:44 pmExactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking greatNorthern Raider wrote:Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 1:37 pmThere are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
And what I mean is if in another week Victoria is still around the 500 new cases a day mark, then we're doing ok, if they're up around a thousand, then we're all doomed.
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Well I hope that you are right old friend. Fingers crossed. There's a first time for everything.The Nickman wrote:I think another week from now we'll know if what I'm saying is complete garbage or whether there's some element of truth here.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 2:44 pmExactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking greatNorthern Raider wrote:Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑July 31, 2020, 1:37 pmThere are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
And what I mean is if in another week Victoria is still around the 500 new cases a day mark, then we're doing ok, if they're up around a thousand, then we're all doomed.
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Shouldn't your details be registered with the police once your positive?Dr Zaius wrote:No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
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Wouldnt be surprised if those chinese commy ***** have ordered their drones hiding in australia to spread the virus down under again.
This place is woke.
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You believe in the Chinese? Come on now. Or have they got to you too?
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Seems like this is pretty clearly your fault then zim. Lift your game!zim wrote:Thanks for the info. I must admit this time around I haven't been following the news as much so I'm a little ignorant as to the morons in victoria. First time around I was madly following everything that came up.
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I hope no one is operating under the assumption that I have more to give. There's less. A lot less.
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Seems unnecessary on behalf of idiots? Surely we can try serious jail sentences for not being home first? Maybe people will give up a couple of weeks pay for the risk of a year in the slammer?Dr Zaius wrote:No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
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You get back to following the news right now and fix this bloody mess you’ve made!zim wrote:I hope no one is operating under the assumption that I have more to give. There's less. A lot less.
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Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
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Good grief! Why do all those presenters on Sky News appear so, so angry all of the timezim wrote:Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
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I was so surprised when I flicked through the channels and caught the show. I'd listened to him be funny on MMM for ages and never heard a peep of his current nonsense. It was a real what the **** moment.
Can't believe he hid it so well.
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If you ever need reassuring you're doing well in life, watch PML talkbackzim wrote:Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
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Melbourne are moving to Stage 4 restrictions and night time curfew as of tonight. Rural Victoria Stage 3 from Wednesday.
Moved from State of Emergency to a State of Disaster order.
Moved from State of Emergency to a State of Disaster order.
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Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.
Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.
At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.
We may all die !!
Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.
At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.
We may all die !!
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We're all going to die.-PJ- wrote:Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.
Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.
At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.
We may all die !!
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Not me. I’m a bot.
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I was hoping for another premiership first.
Then I'd go happily.
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No one lives that long-PJ- wrote:I was hoping for another premiership first.
Then I'd go happily.
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Except for me. I’m a bot.
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Yes, yes, we know, you're a botgangrenous wrote:Except for me. I’m a bot.
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!haiku
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Forum! I’m gonna
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gangrenous wrote: ↑August 8, 2020, 8:16 am Forum! I’m gonna
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