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Question wrote:Move over Nickman Im packing up the swag and heading up to rocky, Before im locked in.
Hurry up then Q, if it were up to me they’d close the highway at Gympie right now!
This is funny.

Suddenly closed borders make sense.

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Telstra set to shut down calls centres overseas and bring back jobs to Australia.
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LP Raider wrote: March 24, 2020, 5:26 pm Telstra set to shut down calls centres overseas and bring back jobs to Australia.
There's some positive news then.
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Dr Zaius wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Image

Your kids school?

Lots of debate about closing the schools.

Experience overseas is that children can get it, but get it significantly less often than adults, don't seem to pass it between each other much (more likely to get it from an adult), and when they do get it, rarely have severe disease.

There has been quite a few cases at school lately, including Lyneham High.

Was this a teenager TR?
How have they worked that out? Given the test limitations, do they have enough testing on asymptomatic children to know how many are catching it and just not showing?
Published studies from China
Dunno haven't read them
They're probably online. Either crunching the numbers from their testing in the original outbreak. Or widespread blood testing of the community once past the peak to see who had it and who didn't
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Northern Raider wrote:
LP Raider wrote: March 24, 2020, 5:26 pm Telstra set to shut down calls centres overseas and bring back jobs to Australia.
There's some positive news then.
Think a lot of companies will learn that the hard way, NRMA are **** cause all their call centres are in Thailand.

Actually spoke to someone in Canberra the other day when I called up about my hail damaged car for the 55th time

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So you are on a cruise ship with a confirmed case of Covid, and the only place that will let you disembark is Venice.

What do you decide?

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The real question is, what are you doing on a cruise ship ...
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yeh raiders wrote: March 24, 2020, 8:14 pm The real question is, what are you doing on a cruise ship ...
That's a very good question
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Never understood the appeal..

Until now it was always a floating gastro tank

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Schools stay open so working mums don't claim your centrelink money.
Mr Morrison enjoy washing the blood from your hands.
This place is woke.
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So shazza from accounts drops of little Johnny to the breeding ground of diseases then goes and spreads kungflu around the workplace and the next thing you know 15 blokes are in isolation... **** kids these days are brain dead gaming zombies anyways **** their education atm.
This place is woke.
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Lock em up.
This place is woke.
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What does closing the QLD border achieve? besides **** around a lot of northern NSW and Southern QLDers.
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Restricts free movement

You can still get through if you demonstrate a need to.

Won't be long before Sydney is locked down in a similar fashion seeing they have nearly half the cases..

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-TW- wrote: March 25, 2020, 10:45 am Restricts free movement

You can still get through if you demonstrate a need to.

Won't be long before Sydney is locked down in a similar fashion seeing they have nearly half the cases..

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people dont generally cross interstate unless they need to...
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Holidays aren't a need

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papabear wrote: March 25, 2020, 11:31 am
-TW- wrote: March 25, 2020, 10:45 am Restricts free movement

You can still get through if you demonstrate a need to.

Won't be long before Sydney is locked down in a similar fashion seeing they have nearly half the cases..

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people dont generally cross interstate unless they need to...
People generally don't travel anywhere unless they need to. Jurisdictional lines on a map don't have much bearing. People in Tweed Heads can go interstate by walking across the street for a loaf of bread.
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-TW- wrote:Restricts free movement

You can still get through if you demonstrate a need to.

Won't be long before Sydney is locked down in a similar fashion seeing they have nearly half the cases..

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They need to bloke the Hume Princess and Pacific Hwy. Sydney is going to be a **** show in 2 weeks and we don't need people fleeing the city, spreading it around the state.
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Just got an email with new testing criteria. Massive expansion. Potential game changer.
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:32 pm Just got an email with new testing criteria. Massive expansion. Potential game changer.
As in expansion of testing volume or reach?
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Northern Raider wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:44 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:32 pm Just got an email with new testing criteria. Massive expansion. Potential game changer.
As in expansion of testing volume or reach?
Criteria. What they will test. Still not enough, but big expansion.
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 3:10 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:44 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:32 pm Just got an email with new testing criteria. Massive expansion. Potential game changer.
As in expansion of testing volume or reach?
Criteria. What they will test. Still not enough, but big expansion.
Good news but would be nice if they had capacity to extend those other areas too. Detection is the key to control.
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https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronav ... 2020200325

I wonder how many other cases like this are still roaming the community then..

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-TW- wrote: March 25, 2020, 4:25 pm https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronav ... 2020200325

I wonder how many other cases like this are still roaming the community then..
A question nobody could answer. Have to think its the reasoning why a key criteria is testing people who have been in contact with known cases.
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-TW- wrote: March 24, 2020, 7:41 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
LP Raider wrote: March 24, 2020, 5:26 pm Telstra set to shut down calls centres overseas and bring back jobs to Australia.
There's some positive news then.
Think a lot of companies will learn that the hard way, NRMA are **** cause all their call centres are in Thailand.

Actually spoke to someone in Canberra the other day when I called up about my hail damaged car for the 55th time

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I can't speak for IAG who own NRMA Insurance, but from the Roadside Assistance company point of view, both of our call centers are in NSW. One in Sydney and one in Gosford. The only thing these companies share is a logo since the de-mutualisation of the insurance company in 2000. The Boards and Management are completely separate.
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:31 pm
-TW- wrote:Restricts free movement

You can still get through if you demonstrate a need to.

Won't be long before Sydney is locked down in a similar fashion seeing they have nearly half the cases..

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They need to bloke the Hume Princess and Pacific Hwy. Sydney is going to be a **** show in 2 weeks and we don't need people fleeing the city, spreading it around the state.
Perceptive comment as always DrZ. There are literally thousands of people with caravans trying to reach/leave South Australia and Queensland since they announced the closure of the borders. Hopefully not too many have Covid-19 because they are on the move as advised to me by locations as diverse as Cobar and Goondiwindi.
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Northern Raider wrote: March 25, 2020, 3:58 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 3:10 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:44 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 25, 2020, 2:32 pm Just got an email with new testing criteria. Massive expansion. Potential game changer.
As in expansion of testing volume or reach?
Criteria. What they will test. Still not enough, but big expansion.
Good news but would be nice if they had capacity to extend those other areas too. Detection is the key to control.
Spot on NR. Detection and then isolation of infected people and tracking people they have had contact with, followed by those persons also being put in isolation is a logical tool in containing the spread of the virus. Limits to the number of available test kits seems to be a constraint on this process.
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Yes, broader testing is clearly required. These asymptomatic cases are a real killer in tracking the progression of the virus.

Once a decent testing regime is in place, then the authorities can start asking the question of what the triggers are to start relaxing the social exclusion policies. Is it two weeks without a new confirmed case across the entire country? A month? State by State? When do you open up your international borders? When do you relax the quarantine and exclusion measures?

It's a big call.
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I can't see international travel for at least the next 18 months, or at least until a vaccine/medication is widely available

I just think unless it's completely dead across the world then it will just flare up again by someone bringing it back

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-TW- wrote:I can't see international travel for at least the next 18 months, or at least until a vaccine/medication is widely available

I just think unless it's completely dead across the world then it will just flare up again by someone bringing it back

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At 5pm yesterday, I employed 330 people
At 5pm today, I will employ 19

I feel sick beyond words. I cannot imagine what this looks like extrapolated throughout the economy.

We're going to be a very long time getting over this.
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T_R wrote: March 26, 2020, 8:23 am At 5pm yesterday, I employed 330 people
At 5pm today, I will employ 19

I feel sick beyond words. I cannot imagine what this looks like extrapolated throughout the economy.

We're going to be a very long time getting over this.
Thats just horrible. Even worse that you're only one of many. The reality will start to hit home soon for everybody.

Talking to a mate of mine yesterday (by phone). He was in blame laying mode saying the government should have closed everything down weeks ago when it first started. I asked if he was staying home. He said no because if he didn't go to work he wouldn't get paid. So wanted everything to close down but still expected to be going to work and earning money as normal.
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That's the frustrating thing people don't get

Shut everything down you kill the virus and the economy. Those places that are on reduced trade and just hanging on doing takeaway will be dead instantly

Next people will be complaining that the budget is billions in deficit, cause welfares gone through the roof

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T_R wrote: March 26, 2020, 8:23 am At 5pm yesterday, I employed 330 people
At 5pm today, I will employ 19

I feel sick beyond words. I cannot imagine what this looks like extrapolated throughout the economy.

We're going to be a very long time getting over this.
Can't imagine what that'd be like mate. Hope you're doing ok.
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T_R wrote: March 26, 2020, 8:23 am At 5pm yesterday, I employed 330 people
At 5pm today, I will employ 19

I feel sick beyond words. I cannot imagine what this looks like extrapolated throughout the economy.

We're going to be a very long time getting over this.
TBH the Liquidation and Bankruptcy market is looking quite bouyant. Selling assets though is a bit of a down, lots of people bailing on property sales.

That all said, I hope you trade out of it :).
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