Canberra Raiders prepare for tough times after NRL season suspension

[T_R]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

To quote the words of US President Bloomberg "Nick's predictive powers appear to be on the wane "

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[Travis]

I suspect that school closures will be the last choice of the government. They have placed too much stock to date that children will not contract or pass on the disease (whether this is entirely accurate or not is being debated by various experts), and that they need to be babysat to allow their working parents to continue working. My guess is that, if anything, an extra week may be tacked on to the end of the Easter holidays.

If the situation gets particularly bad after that, I think schools may continue to operate on a skeleton staff and remain open to the children of parents who can't afford to stop working. There is already high absenteeism as parents opt to keep their children home, out of concern or because their child is sick, so this plan will merely be an escalation of what is already occurring.

[Roger Kenworthy]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

I will be VERY surprised if we get a full season of Rugbah League.

[-TW-]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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[Northern Raider]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

[Dr Zaius]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

Any or all of those things are likely to happen at some point.

I can see it now. Midseason, top of the table, premiership favourites. Competition cancelled.

[Coastalraider]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

Any or all of those things are likely to happen at some point.

I can see it now. Midseason, top of the table, premiership favourites. Competition cancelled.

Trent Robinson will have infected patients sitting by Johnny Batemans air con unit at night....

[Seiffert82]

The only issue I have with this is that the data is inaccurate due to each country having a different testing procedure.

I know first hand that I have been to doctors this week showing some real signs and symptoms of this virus, and doctors have their hands tied and said I cannot be tested due to the fact I have not been overseas or come into known contact with a confirmed carrier. Testing MAY be different in the act, but we are being super strict up here. Given that the case numbers now have a large % of ‘unknown’ origin patients, it’s accepted the virus is now in the public community. However, that public community are not able to be tested, therefore the only way to be to be listed is to be hospitalised and tested.

South Korea have tested over 316,000 people, we have tested 113,000. Data is skewed.

We are also only looking at total numbers, not %of capita.

Not arguing on trajectory, just saying some of the data is definitely inaccurate.

Check this one out as well, some good stuff on here.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tota ... ion-people

Yep, there is a lot of data out there and a lot of ways to slice and dice the information. You're also right in saying all the data is skewed, based on the numbers of people actually tested in each country and the reliability of their reporting (e.g. nobody can convince me there are only 199 known cases in Russia).

In saying that, I think the known infection rate per head of population is one of the best indicators of the trajectory of the virus in each country.

As it stands, Italy is now 50 days after its first known case and they have 777 infections per 1 million people. In comparison, after 50 days of the first known case in Australia, we had 10 infections per 1 million. After 50 days, Singapore had 33 cases/1 million; the USA had 3 cases/1 million; and the UK had 60 cases/1 million. France is only at day 25 and they already have 188 cases/1 million (...they are seriously ****). Therefore, all countries are on slightly different trajectories.

The info I've seen (based on a limited number of countries) indicate the virus takes off a bit when cases hit around 30 per 1 million.

Australia is now at 56 days after our first known case and we have 36 infections per 1 million population. We could now be at risk of this thing taking off, but fortunately our low initial rate of infection has given the government enough time to finally implement some sensible exclusion measures. It will be interesting to see how well those policies work.

[Seiffert82]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

Exactly. Developments happening around the world or in other parts of our economy don't necessarily reflect what will happen with the NRL.

The ARLC have come out with a reasonably clear plan and way forward. The clubs and players know the deal and have access to the best available information.

It's good leadership IMO. Decisions aren't being made on panic, gut instinct or throwing darts at a dartboard.

[Northern Raider]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

Any or all of those things are likely to happen at some point.

I can see it now. Midseason, top of the table, premiership favourites. Competition cancelled.

We’ll still act like we won

[Coastalraider]

The only issue I have with this is that the data is inaccurate due to each country having a different testing procedure.

I know first hand that I have been to doctors this week showing some real signs and symptoms of this virus, and doctors have their hands tied and said I cannot be tested due to the fact I have not been overseas or come into known contact with a confirmed carrier. Testing MAY be different in the act, but we are being super strict up here. Given that the case numbers now have a large % of ‘unknown’ origin patients, it’s accepted the virus is now in the public community. However, that public community are not able to be tested, therefore the only way to be to be listed is to be hospitalised and tested.

South Korea have tested over 316,000 people, we have tested 113,000. Data is skewed.

We are also only looking at total numbers, not %of capita.

Not arguing on trajectory, just saying some of the data is definitely inaccurate.

Check this one out as well, some good stuff on here.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tota ... ion-people

Yep, there is a lot of data out there and a lot of ways to slice and dice the information. You're also right in saying all the data is skewed, based on the numbers of people actually tested in each country and the reliability of their reporting (e.g. nobody can convince me there are only 199 known cases in Russia).

In saying that, I think the known infection rate per head of population is one of the best indicators of the trajectory of the virus in each country.

As it stands, Italy is now 50 days after its first known case and they have 777 infections per 1 million people. In comparison, after 50 days of the first known case in Australia, we had 10 infections per 1 million. After 50 days, Singapore had 33/1 million; the USA had 3 cases/1 million; and the UK had 60 cases/1 million. All on slightly different trajectories.

The info from a limited number of countries indicate the virus takes off a bit when cases hit around 30 per 1 million.

Australia is now at 56 days after our first known cases and we have 36 infections per 1 million population. We could now be at risk of this thing taking off, but fortunately our low initial rate of infection has given the government enough time to finally implement some sensible exclusion measures. It will be interesting to see how well they work.

Yep, I’m following Seif, but if each country is testing at a different rate per capita, then the infection rate per capita will be different as well. Look at us vs the US for example. We are testing 4,500 per mill - US testing 313 per mill. Those sample sizes are so radically different, the data they generate while relevant in itself is not suitable for comparison to each other. To say we vs them had xxx cases after a Certain time is non comparable if the testing protocols are so radically different.

[Seiffert82]

The only issue I have with this is that the data is inaccurate due to each country having a different testing procedure.

I know first hand that I have been to doctors this week showing some real signs and symptoms of this virus, and doctors have their hands tied and said I cannot be tested due to the fact I have not been overseas or come into known contact with a confirmed carrier. Testing MAY be different in the act, but we are being super strict up here. Given that the case numbers now have a large % of ‘unknown’ origin patients, it’s accepted the virus is now in the public community. However, that public community are not able to be tested, therefore the only way to be to be listed is to be hospitalised and tested.

South Korea have tested over 316,000 people, we have tested 113,000. Data is skewed.

We are also only looking at total numbers, not %of capita.

Not arguing on trajectory, just saying some of the data is definitely inaccurate.

Check this one out as well, some good stuff on here.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tota ... ion-people

Yep, there is a lot of data out there and a lot of ways to slice and dice the information. You're also right in saying all the data is skewed, based on the numbers of people actually tested in each country and the reliability of their reporting (e.g. nobody can convince me there are only 199 known cases in Russia).

In saying that, I think the known infection rate per head of population is one of the best indicators of the trajectory of the virus in each country.

As it stands, Italy is now 50 days after its first known case and they have 777 infections per 1 million people. In comparison, after 50 days of the first known case in Australia, we had 10 infections per 1 million. After 50 days, Singapore had 33/1 million; the USA had 3 cases/1 million; and the UK had 60 cases/1 million. All on slightly different trajectories.

The info from a limited number of countries indicate the virus takes off a bit when cases hit around 30 per 1 million.

Australia is now at 56 days after our first known cases and we have 36 infections per 1 million population. We could now be at risk of this thing taking off, but fortunately our low initial rate of infection has given the government enough time to finally implement some sensible exclusion measures. It will be interesting to see how well they work.

Yep, I’m following Seif, but if each country is testing at a different rate per capita, then the infection rate per capita will be different as well. Look at us vs the US for example. We are testing 4,500 per mill - US testing 313 per mill. Those sample sizes are so radically different, the data they generate while relevant in itself is not suitable for comparison to each other. To say we vs them had xxx cases after a Certain time is non comparable if the testing protocols are so radically different.

Yep, that probably largely explains why the US official rate of infection was only 3 cases/1 million at 50 days.

It's like trying to figure out the real mortality rate, when you have a pretty good indication of the numbers of deaths, but no real indication of the actual numbers of infections and real recoveries. The actual infection rate could be 10 times more, making the mortality rate 10 times less. Who knows?!

You're right. All the data is unreliable, but it can give an indication of what policies do and don't work over time.

With all the available information, I honestly believe Australia is in a relatively good position compared to most of the world. The government is just fortunate that we are geographically isolated from the rest of the world. What we are seeing in Western Europe (France, Italy, Spain, Switzerland etc) is clearly out of control. It's awful.

[FuiFui BradBrad]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

I reckon they’ll try and push through to at least round 5-7. The more rounds they can get through now, the less they’ll need to make up in Oct-Nov.

If they do that, it’ll be interesting to see what they do, considering the T20 World Cup has booked out most major stadiums

[Seiffert82]

I think we are far more likely to see a full NRL season than a T20 World Cup in October. Time will tell.

Won't those games be played on different grounds? That will more likely impact the AFL.

[Northern Raider]

The only issue I have with this is that the data is inaccurate due to each country having a different testing procedure.

I know first hand that I have been to doctors this week showing some real signs and symptoms of this virus, and doctors have their hands tied and said I cannot be tested due to the fact I have not been overseas or come into known contact with a confirmed carrier. Testing MAY be different in the act, but we are being super strict up here. Given that the case numbers now have a large % of ‘unknown’ origin patients, it’s accepted the virus is now in the public community. However, that public community are not able to be tested, therefore the only way to be to be listed is to be hospitalised and tested.

South Korea have tested over 316,000 people, we have tested 113,000. Data is skewed.

We are also only looking at total numbers, not %of capita.

Not arguing on trajectory, just saying some of the data is definitely inaccurate.

Check this one out as well, some good stuff on here.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tota ... ion-people

Yep, there is a lot of data out there and a lot of ways to slice and dice the information. You're also right in saying all the data is skewed, based on the numbers of people actually tested in each country and the reliability of their reporting (e.g. nobody can convince me there are only 199 known cases in Russia).

In saying that, I think the known infection rate per head of population is one of the best indicators of the trajectory of the virus in each country.

As it stands, Italy is now 50 days after its first known case and they have 777 infections per 1 million people. In comparison, after 50 days of the first known case in Australia, we had 10 infections per 1 million. After 50 days, Singapore had 33/1 million; the USA had 3 cases/1 million; and the UK had 60 cases/1 million. All on slightly different trajectories.

The info from a limited number of countries indicate the virus takes off a bit when cases hit around 30 per 1 million.

Australia is now at 56 days after our first known cases and we have 36 infections per 1 million population. We could now be at risk of this thing taking off, but fortunately our low initial rate of infection has given the government enough time to finally implement some sensible exclusion measures. It will be interesting to see how well they work.

Yep, I’m following Seif, but if each country is testing at a different rate per capita, then the infection rate per capita will be different as well. Look at us vs the US for example. We are testing 4,500 per mill - US testing 313 per mill. Those sample sizes are so radically different, the data they generate while relevant in itself is not suitable for comparison to each other. To say we vs them had xxx cases after a Certain time is non comparable if the testing protocols are so radically different.

2 things stand out to me in all this data. Firstly how close Australia and Canada are in just about every measure. Next is the disturbingly low number of tests being conducted in NZ. Only around 600 tests in total up till Tuesday.

[Seiffert82]

The only issue I have with this is that the data is inaccurate due to each country having a different testing procedure.

I know first hand that I have been to doctors this week showing some real signs and symptoms of this virus, and doctors have their hands tied and said I cannot be tested due to the fact I have not been overseas or come into known contact with a confirmed carrier. Testing MAY be different in the act, but we are being super strict up here. Given that the case numbers now have a large % of ‘unknown’ origin patients, it’s accepted the virus is now in the public community. However, that public community are not able to be tested, therefore the only way to be to be listed is to be hospitalised and tested.

South Korea have tested over 316,000 people, we have tested 113,000. Data is skewed.

We are also only looking at total numbers, not %of capita.

Not arguing on trajectory, just saying some of the data is definitely inaccurate.

Check this one out as well, some good stuff on here.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tota ... ion-people

Yep, there is a lot of data out there and a lot of ways to slice and dice the information. You're also right in saying all the data is skewed, based on the numbers of people actually tested in each country and the reliability of their reporting (e.g. nobody can convince me there are only 199 known cases in Russia).

In saying that, I think the known infection rate per head of population is one of the best indicators of the trajectory of the virus in each country.

As it stands, Italy is now 50 days after its first known case and they have 777 infections per 1 million people. In comparison, after 50 days of the first known case in Australia, we had 10 infections per 1 million. After 50 days, Singapore had 33/1 million; the USA had 3 cases/1 million; and the UK had 60 cases/1 million. All on slightly different trajectories.

The info from a limited number of countries indicate the virus takes off a bit when cases hit around 30 per 1 million.

Australia is now at 56 days after our first known cases and we have 36 infections per 1 million population. We could now be at risk of this thing taking off, but fortunately our low initial rate of infection has given the government enough time to finally implement some sensible exclusion measures. It will be interesting to see how well they work.

Yep, I’m following Seif, but if each country is testing at a different rate per capita, then the infection rate per capita will be different as well. Look at us vs the US for example. We are testing 4,500 per mill - US testing 313 per mill. Those sample sizes are so radically different, the data they generate while relevant in itself is not suitable for comparison to each other. To say we vs them had xxx cases after a Certain time is non comparable if the testing protocols are so radically different.

2 things stand out to me in all this data. Firstly how close Australia and Canada are in just about every measure. Next is the disturbingly low number of tests being conducted in NZ. Only around 600 tests in total up till Tuesday.

Yeah, Canada was at about 23 infections/1 Million after 50 days. Just ahead of us. Makes sense - large country with dispersed population focused on a handful of big cities. Reasonable rates of tourism out of Asia, but a bit more connected with the rest of the world.

[Roger Kenworthy]

I'll be VERY surprised if Round 3 goes ahead.

Nickman said that about round 2. At some stage one of you has to be right.

Throw enough darts you're bound to hit the board eventually

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With the comp still running now here will need to be a significant change in events for them to stop e.g. player or staff test positive, full social distancing policy put into place, total ban on air travel etc. Otherwise I expect it to continue indefinitely as is.

Any or all of those things are likely to happen at some point.

I can see it now. Midseason, top of the table, premiership favourites. Competition cancelled.

I'm guessing we'll see a ramp up in controversy and pressure over whether it is in good taste to continue this week. Already been murmurs the past week.

[-TW-]

I think we are far more likely to see a full NRL season than a T20 World Cup in October. Time will tell.

Won't those games be played on different grounds? That will more likely impact the AFL.

Pretty much,

SCG, MCG, Kardinia Park, Gabba, Adelaide Oval, Perth Stadium

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[zim]

Another vid if anyone is interested in a quick covid summary. A word of warning: if you get anxious watching a rapidly multiplying infection do not watch.

They've listed some handy sources (WHO) too if anyone is looking for more information:
https://sites.google.com/view/sourcescorona

Great video

That channel does great work on explaining important topics.
Being able to show a friend why homeopathy is useless in a 6 min video with cute animations is so much more effective than just beating them with a sack.

[Seiffert82]

Another vid if anyone is interested in a quick covid summary. A word of warning: if you get anxious watching a rapidly multiplying infection do not watch.

They've listed some handy sources (WHO) too if anyone is looking for more information:
https://sites.google.com/view/sourcescorona

Great video

That channel does great work on explaining important topics.
Being able to show a friend why homeopathy is useless in a 6 min video with cute animations is so much more effective than just beating them with a sack.

[Dr Zaius]

Another vid if anyone is interested in a quick covid summary. A word of warning: if you get anxious watching a rapidly multiplying infection do not watch.

They've listed some handy sources (WHO) too if anyone is looking for more information:
https://sites.google.com/view/sourcescorona

Great video

That channel does great work on explaining important topics.
Being able to show a friend why homeopathy is useless in a 6 min video with cute animations is so much more effective than just beating them with a sack.

But not as fun

[gangrenous]

Tackled without it, come on

Wrong thread ****

[-TW-]

Tackled without it, come on

Wrong thread ****

Probably relevant if you're in Coles..

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[gangrenous]

[Makaveli]

If today is the standard we can expect the Warriors to get every favourable call for the rest of the season

[Sid]

Tackled without it, come on

Wrong thread ****

Probably relevant if you're in Coles..

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[Makaveli]

Finally we get a **** ruck penalty

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[Botman]

Finally we get a **** ruck penalty

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I think you're allowed 1 per customer now

[Makaveli]

Far out..

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[gangrenous]

Finally we get a **** ruck penalty

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How hard is it to get it in the right thread man?

[Makaveli]

Clearly, very

[Sid]

Don't take this away from me Rona



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[Coastalraider]

Well I’ve just been in tears listening to this. Take a few minutes.

[The Nickman]

If today is the standard we can expect the Warriors to get every favourable call for the rest of the season

And Frankly, so they should.

[Dr Zaius]

Well I’ve just been in tears listening to this. Take a few minutes.

Listen to this guy.

In a few weeks this is us.

Health care workers are dying looking after people who have refused to listen to their advice.

We are terrified about what is coming.

For **** sake stay at home. Keep your family at home. Tell your friends to stay at home and shout at our government to pull their finger out and lock it down now. It's nearly too late.