Curtis Scott signs with Canberra Raiders to end 2023

[Cranky Old Man]

This thread has more points to it tan a garden rake, most of them being off topic, but I'll add a point to make things worse.
Before the Raiders came into being I used to follow the Dragons. I well remember their days when Langlands was their Smith, Billy Smith was their Cronk and on it went. In the early seventies those players were still top players but on the decline from their stellar best.It was obvious to me and many others that for the future of the club it would be better to phase them and several of their aging cohort out of the game. But the club took the more pragmatic view that they could still win games with them that they might not without them. They made the 1975 GF with them, but were embarrassed 38 nilwhen tries were only worth 3 points. The club fell apart then with a rancorousness within the club that hadn't been there for decades. Langlands and Smith and others were punted, and then in one of the greatest coaching feats in the history of the game Harry Bath took them to premierships within a couple of years. I think the Storm should look to that history.

[Coastalraider]

So when are we signing Cameron Smith?

Is that was this topic is about - Im confused...

[zim]

Pretty sure we already have Sam Williams at halfback buddy.

[Northern Raider]

There’s a big difference between saying Cameron Smith will eventually succumb to mortality and;
Storm would be a better team if they cut Smith loose now and hand the team to Bodie Croft.
Or that it was Cameron Smith that’s holding them back in 2018 or 2019....

Bang. Nailed it. The argument has somehow been skewed away from that.

[Seiffert82]

Edit.

[Ruben Daley]

I'm sure I'm in the minority, and will get blasted for even suggesting this, but I think Storm would actually be better off without Cam Smith. His best is behind him and is actually hindering the youngsters coming through. He also has personality issues with his younger teammates.

A spine of Papenhouzen, Munster, Croft and BSmith with Grant on the bench would be quality. I think these guys and Bellyache would be a top 6 side.

Does the only person on earth count as a minority?

Hahaha. I was going to respond to Matt but reckon you’ve nailed my point, Beejay.

I thought Id get that reaction here, and yes, 1 is a minority.
There are quite a few Storm fans who agree with me.

I actually understand your point that Smith suppresses the younger players (/halves) and agree. I just don’t think that quite translates to the Storm being better off without him next season.

But I hope they go for whichever option results in them losing the most games.

[Ruben Daley]

There’s a big difference between saying Cameron Smith will eventually succumb to mortality and;
Storm would be a better team if they cut Smith loose now and hand the team to Bodie Croft.
Or that it was Cameron Smith that’s holding them back in 2018 or 2019....

Bang. Nailed it. The argument has somehow been skewed away from that.

X 2

Meanwhile, Croft to the Broncos according to the Mole and a few others.

[greeneyed]

Brodie Croft reportedly on the brink of joining Broncos pending Melbourne Storm release: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/brodie-cro ... cial-NRLFS

Hopefully that doesn't mean they no longer have to release Curtis Scott.

[zim]

The Scott release isn't cap related though?

[gerg]

Jesus, I think a lot of you are completely missing the fact the Storm were just the most dominant minor premiers in history. If Tapine doesn’t knock that ball out of Addo-Carr’s hands they very nearly come close to winning the comp again. It was a very, very good season, despite the fact they didn’t win the comp. In fact, it was better than ours, and history will remember us as not winning the comp either.

The way some of you are talking they’ve just come off a garbage season where they were completely awful. This place is deadset **** strange sometimes.

Couldn’t agree more with this. Addo-Carr holds onto the ball and they win that game, and likely make another GF, having lost 4 games all year.

I actually think the issue is they don’t manage their work load very well. Bellamy is burnt by a single season where he rested players and they lost momentum. Classic overreaction to a small sample size. The season is far too long now to not rest players - Roosters did it very well over the course of the year, and Stuart was certainly vindicated by his decision to give some key players a break in the final week. Melbourne play at a high intensity every week, and have quite a few rep players playing extra games. While I feel we were lucky to pip Melbourne at the death, I do think we were the better side over 80 minutes of that game, and that Melbourne (and Souths) were physically drained by the time the Prelims came around.

Agree with this. Roosters pretty much rested players on a rotational basis after Origin and stumbled their way into the finals - pretty much on the back of Tedesco and were fresh when they hit the finals.

They were talking about how Bellamy rested players a few years back and they were bundled out of the finals and he vowed to never do it again.

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[greeneyed]

The Scott release isn't cap related though?

Some media reports suggest it is.

[zim]

The Scott release isn't cap related though?

Some media reports suggest it is.

Interesting. I didn't think they'd be overdrawn with that side and their pull.

[BadnMean]

The Scott release isn't cap related though?

Some media reports suggest it is.

Interesting. I didn't think they'd be overdrawn with that side and their pull.

That other Camryn Smythe fellow they have on their books seems to take up a fair bit of cap for an unseen junior..

[FROG]

Brodie Croft reportedly on the brink of joining Broncos pending Melbourne Storm release: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/brodie-cro ... cial-NRLFS

Hopefully that doesn't mean they no longer have to release Curtis Scott.

Yeah, its definitely a concern. Last week it sounded like it was happening this week and then all of a sudden its gone quiet. This can naturally either mean that views within the storm granting him an early release have changed or they are just rounding out the edgeson the deal. Hopefully there will be sn update soon cause i find this agonising!

[BadnMean]

Croft is one season out of Intrust Cup... Surely he can't be freeing up much cap space by the time they fill the spot...

[Wiki Special]

There’s a big difference between saying Cameron Smith will eventually succumb to mortality and;
Storm would be a better team if they cut Smith loose now and hand the team to Bodie Croft.
Or that it was Cameron Smith that’s holding them back in 2018 or 2019....

Bang. Nailed it. The argument has somehow been skewed away from that.

X 2

x 3.

[gerg]

Croft is one season out of Intrust Cup... Surely he can't be freeing up much cap space by the time they fill the spot...

It's NRL economics my good man.

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[BadnMean]

Croft is one season out of Intrust Cup... Surely he can't be freeing up much cap space by the time they fill the spot...

It's NRL economics my good man.

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I suppose if they were planning to retain him, they may have kept some money free to reflect his starting halfback role in his extension...

[Azza]

Croft is one season out of Intrust Cup... Surely he can't be freeing up much cap space by the time they fill the spot...

It's NRL economics my good man.

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Is there a chance the track could bend?

[RedRaider]

This thread has more points to it tan a garden rake, most of them being off topic, but I'll add a point to make things worse.
Before the Raiders came into being I used to follow the Dragons. I well remember their days when Langlands was their Smith, Billy Smith was their Cronk and on it went. In the early seventies those players were still top players but on the decline from their stellar best.It was obvious to me and many others that for the future of the club it would be better to phase them and several of their aging cohort out of the game. But the club took the more pragmatic view that they could still win games with them that they might not without them. They made the 1975 GF with them, but were embarrassed 38 nilwhen tries were only worth 3 points. The club fell apart then with a rancorousness within the club that hadn't been there for decades. Langlands and Smith and others were punted, and then in one of the greatest coaching feats in the history of the game Harry Bath took them to premierships within a couple of years. I think the Storm should look to that history.

First ever Grand Final replay won by Bath's Babes. Rocket Reddy got away with more 'outside the rules' plays than Cameron Smith, Sam Burgess and Adam Blair combined. But they trounced the Eels 22 blot. Rod McGregor was one of my favourite players back in the day for his grass cutter defensive style.

Back on topic, if Sticky and the recruitment/coaching team see a role for Curtis Scott then who could argue given their recruitment record of the past couple of seasons.

[Cranky Old Man]

Ahh, Red. I can see that you and I need to get on the turps together some time soon and reminisce.

[rolhai]

Reddit has a post alleging that Sandor Earl has leaked a centre swap. BJ for Curtis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/e ... urce=share

Video: https://streamable.com/c7xh1

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[zim]

BJ will do really well there and they will improve with a bit of flair to complement their robotic plays.

[zim]

Reddit has a post alleging that Sandor Earl has leaked a centre swap. BJ for Curtis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/e ... urce=share

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https://streamable.com/c7xh1

[papabear]

Umm why would u swap bj for Scott

BJ is way better then Scott.. turner and Quinn made the nsw team under Bellamy.. Scott pffft

[Coastalraider]

Umm why would u swap bj for Scott

BJ is way better then Scott.. turner and Quinn made the nsw team under Bellamy.. Scott pffft

Salary cap and length of contract.

BJ is easily the better player right now, but he costs more, his contract is up for renewal at the end of the year and everyone knows BJ is a rocks and diamonds player. This could fill in with a very talented centre, on less money for a 2-3 year contract, and free up some cash to ensure we can compete with clubs for Wighton/Bateman/Cotric.

[greeneyed]

@sandorearl on Twitter

Just a joke lads with all the trade chats going on was too hard to resist!

[Seiffert82]

There is no way Melbourne could afford to take on a bigger contract with Leilua over Scott.

[Beejay]

Thank ****

Again. Unless this trade allowed us to sign Taupau or something. Strong middle forward to compliment Papa.

[edwahu]

There is no way Melbourne could afford to take on a bigger contract with Leilua over Scott.

They would have a stack of cash with Chambers going and Smith having just 1 year left.

[T_R]

@sandorearl on Twitter

Just a joke lads with all the trade chats going on was too hard to resist!

I don't think he was joking.

[EJ]

He better have been

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[Brew]

@sandorearl on Twitter

Just a joke lads with all the trade chats going on was too hard to resist!

I don't think he was joking.

Probably got pulled into line and had to cover himself.


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[greeneyed]

Canberra Raiders end Joey Leilua to Melbourne Storm rumour after Sandor Earl’s prank... but Curtis Scott's move to the Green Machine set for green light

The Daily Telegraph reports that the Melbourne Storm has agreed to Curtis Scott’s move to the Canberra Raiders in 2020, with the clubs set to complete the transfer this week.

But Raiders recruitment guru Peter Mulholland denied that Joey Leilua would be heading to the Storm, after Sandor Earl said Leilua was Melbourne's new recruit, as part of a "prank" on Instagram: “It is not happening. It hasn’t even been discussed.”

Read more: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... 86dc66d6e7

[BJ]

Seems like Sandor Earle has been caught trafficking bad jokes.

The World Anti Joking Association won’t have a bar of his actions and has suspended him from further humour use for 4 years.

Mr Earle can appeal to the Jester’s Court of Arbitration.