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Post by julian87 » November 17, 2019, 8:29 pm

Making Croker move to wing now would cripple him IMO.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Post by Botman » November 17, 2019, 8:37 pm

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Making Croker move to wing now would cripple him IMO.
Julz... Croker isnt moving to the wing, he's going to be the captain and starting at #3 for as long as he's active and Stuart is the coach. THis guy is as locked into this club as Stuart and DFJ. Nothing anyone can say matters beyond that.
He's going to be our centre as long as he's capable. The club believes in him as a player, as a leader and as a clubman in that order.

People can say what they want to say, if Curtis Scott is coming to replace someone, it's Beej. Not Croker. Whatever people want to say or think about that is whatever. But that's what it is.
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Post by Seiffert82 » November 17, 2019, 9:51 pm

Given Croker is currently a better centre than Curtis Scott - and is level headed, a hell of a goal kicker and vastly more experienced, then yeah, it's fair to say he'll probably be starting over him.

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Post by Seiffert82 » November 17, 2019, 11:35 pm

Good point. I forgot the bit where every other centre in the comp is better than Jarrod Croker. That's obviously why the coaching staff are so keen to extend his contract.

Tedious topics aside, the only question here is whether Scott is coming in to immediately replace Leilua next season, or of he is fighting it out with Cotric and Simonsson for a wing spot.

It'd be remarkable if we had the spare cash to sign him while retaining Leilua.

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Post by FROG » November 18, 2019, 5:16 am

I think we could carry both. We freed up a lot of cap space in 19 when we let boyd, paulo and austin go. They said at the time that wed have cap space in 2020. Theyve said we could have retained sezer and bj this year. If sezer goes youd expect that his cash would be spent on scott. For the record i reckon leilua will leave not cause of the cap, but because 3 1st grade centres doesnt fit into 2

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » November 18, 2019, 5:39 am

I think Scott is using the money we would have had set aside for half a year of Rapana. We'd be mad to let Leilua go IMO, we already look a little low on strike in the outside backs.

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Post by Seiffert82 » November 18, 2019, 6:43 am

Good point about the Rapana money. Scott is a hell of a depth player, especially on the sort of money he was on at the Storm (reportedly $500k per season). That's a lot of cash tied up in our centres.

We'd be crazy to let Leilua go if we can afford to keep him. I'm just interested in what the plan is with Scott. Maybe the Storm were willing to carry some of the freight for 2020 and we expect him to slot into Leilua's position in 2021?

I also suspect the Raiders still won't stand in Leilua's way if his manager finds him a good extension elsewhere. There were obviously a few clubs interested in throwing big money at Mitchell, so I suspect those same clubs may also be interested in a player like Leilua, once the Mitchell thing is sorted.

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Post by simo » November 18, 2019, 7:23 am

Theres been a lot of suggestion that scott coming may mean we lose bj for 2020. I think theres more a chance of a scott for sezer trade for 2020 with bj to move on in 2021
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Post by Botman » November 18, 2019, 8:30 am

simo wrote:
November 18, 2019, 7:23 am
Theres been a lot of suggestion that scott coming may mean we lose bj for 2020. I think theres more a chance of a scott for sezer trade for 2020 with bj to move on in 2021
You and others might well be right.
Ive based my assumptions on that i think he has probably shown enough to get a decent sized deal and a walk up starting spot, which i guess is a lot to assume... but if that money and opportunity just isnt there, maybe we're good with Beej and him.

Im pretty high on Scott's talent, so it's just hard for me to imagine someone like the tigers, or bulldogs, or the knights wouldnt take a punt on him. Id be over the moon if we could get him and keep Beej
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Post by simo » November 18, 2019, 8:51 am

Botman wrote:
November 18, 2019, 8:30 am
simo wrote:
November 18, 2019, 7:23 am
Theres been a lot of suggestion that scott coming may mean we lose bj for 2020. I think theres more a chance of a scott for sezer trade for 2020 with bj to move on in 2021
You and others might well be right.
Ive based my assumptions on that i think he has probably shown enough to get a decent sized deal and a walk up starting spot, which i guess is a lot to assume... but if that money and opportunity just isnt there, maybe we're good with Beej and him.

Im pretty high on Scott's talent, so it's just hard for me to imagine someone like the tigers, or bulldogs, or the knights wouldnt take a punt on him. Id be over the moon if we could get him and keep Beej
My thought line is that the storm are in need of a half and while we arent in need of a centre immediately, our depth in outside backs isnt great and this would allow competition for spots and rep cover while future proofing us for 2021 and beyond depending on what bj does
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Post by Makaveli » November 18, 2019, 8:56 am

I'd prefer Scott over BJ

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Post by simo » November 18, 2019, 8:59 am

People seriously under rate the work bj does from our end of the park
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Post by GreenMachine » November 18, 2019, 9:02 am

julian87 wrote:
November 17, 2019, 8:18 pm
Brew wrote:
November 17, 2019, 6:22 pm
He comes from the the Storm system and has won a premiership. He could turn out to be a better signing than Loxmax and hopefully cheaper.


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Christ these are the 2 biggest non events in determining if a player is any good.
He actually came from the Sharks system and was singed by the Storm...
In any event - it is a non event.

I like the signing. I especially like it if we happen to lose BJ.

Scott is a defensive minded centre, which is exactly what we need FIRST. We made the GF on the back of an improved defensive attitude and structure and this is where I want to see the Club further progress.

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Post by yeh raiders » November 18, 2019, 9:30 am

simo wrote:
November 18, 2019, 8:59 am
People seriously under rate the work bj does from our end of the park
It’s criminal really. When you lose BJ, you lose an attacking strike weapon and middle forward. We’ve already lost Rapana, I’m not sure we can afford to lose BJ right now too.

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Post by Botman » November 18, 2019, 9:33 am

I wouldnt take Scott over BJ. Or Scott over Croker...

but if Stuart, DFJ and Mulholland are looking at moving away from Beej this year or at the end of next, i dont mind taking a punt on Scott as his replacement.
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Post by zim » November 18, 2019, 9:35 am

Good signing. BJ is a better centre but we can't afford to pay to keep him much longer.
If BJ sticks around for 2020 Scott will end up starting on the wing. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
If BJ moves on Scott will be at right centre.

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Post by yeh raiders » November 18, 2019, 9:38 am

Botman wrote:
November 18, 2019, 9:33 am
I wouldnt take Scott over BJ. Or Scott over Croker...

but if Stuart, DFJ and Mulholland are looking at moving away from Beej this year or at the end of next, i dont mind taking a punt on Scott as his replacement.
Yeah by all means, Scott’s a talented player with plenty of promise.

Just in terms of team balance, I don’t think it’s the best move right now if it means punting BJ immediately.

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Post by bonehead » November 18, 2019, 11:22 am

Scott was in the 2018 origin mix, I like the recruitment

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Post by BadnMean » November 18, 2019, 11:33 am

zim wrote:
November 18, 2019, 9:35 am
Good signing. BJ is a better centre but we can't afford to pay to keep him much longer.
If BJ sticks around for 2020 Scott will end up starting on the wing. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
If BJ moves on Scott will be at right centre.
Is he a better winger than Simonsen?

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Post by zim » November 18, 2019, 12:04 pm

I doubt it. But he's not coming here for the bench or Mounties. He could get a start at a number of other clubs.

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Post by Nadruku » November 18, 2019, 1:29 pm

Luciano Leilua just signed for Tigers. BJ to follow and play with his bro?


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Post by Roger Kenworthy » November 18, 2019, 1:29 pm

Seiffert82 wrote:
November 18, 2019, 6:43 am
Good point about the Rapana money. Scott is a hell of a depth player, especially on the sort of money he was on at the Storm (reportedly $500k per season). That's a lot of cash tied up in our centres.

We'd be crazy to let Leilua go if we can afford to keep him. I'm just interested in what the plan is with Scott. Maybe the Storm were willing to carry some of the freight for 2020 and we expect him to slot into Leilua's position in 2021?

I also suspect the Raiders still won't stand in Leilua's way if his manager finds him a good extension elsewhere. There were obviously a few clubs interested in throwing big money at Mitchell, so I suspect those same clubs may also be interested in a player like Leilua, once the Mitchell thing is sorted.
I think you're on point. The way Stuart raved about having an outside back on the bench for the final quarter of last year we can safely assume that'll be the line of thinking. Scott in 14 makes the most sense I guess, with a view to taking BJ's spot in 2021.

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Post by luke » November 18, 2019, 1:38 pm

Nadruku wrote:
November 18, 2019, 1:29 pm
Luciano Leilua just signed for Tigers. BJ to follow and play with his bro?


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Post by sprintman » November 18, 2019, 2:45 pm

Luciano Leilua supposedly signed Tigers. Maybe BJ will join him there, as they have $$.

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Post by Northern Raider » November 18, 2019, 3:00 pm

sprintman wrote:
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Luciano Leilua supposedly signed Tigers. Maybe BJ will join him there, as they have $$.
Aren't they gunning for Latrell?
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Post by sprintman » November 18, 2019, 4:34 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
November 18, 2019, 3:00 pm
sprintman wrote:
November 18, 2019, 2:45 pm
Luciano Leilua supposedly signed Tigers. Maybe BJ will join him there, as they have $$.
Aren't they gunning for Latrell?
Apparently

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Post by Northern Raider » November 18, 2019, 4:45 pm

sprintman wrote:
November 18, 2019, 4:34 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
November 18, 2019, 3:00 pm
sprintman wrote:
November 18, 2019, 2:45 pm
Luciano Leilua supposedly signed Tigers. Maybe BJ will join him there, as they have $$.
Aren't they gunning for Latrell?
Apparently
If they give Latrell the money he wants then harder to get BJ.
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Post by sprintman » November 18, 2019, 6:41 pm

Just in that the Roosters have wiped Latrell. Only Tigers and Cowboys left it seems.

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Post by Seiffert82 » November 18, 2019, 6:53 pm

Given the money thrown around for Mitchell by the Tigers, Roosters and Cowboys I can only presume that any of those clubs that miss out on him will be in a position to offer Leilua a decent contract if they are interested in a quality centre.

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Post by Botman » November 18, 2019, 7:00 pm

Yeah i could see BJ being considered a pretty solid back up plan for a team like the tigers who feel like they need a strike centre.
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Post by Coastalraider » November 18, 2019, 8:08 pm

The thing is though that the tigers and cowboys are looking at him as a full back, and that’s how his manager is shopping him.

The team that misses out won’t see BJ as the next best option.

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Post by gergreg » November 18, 2019, 8:48 pm


Coastalraider wrote:The thing is though that the tigers and cowboys are looking at him as a full back, and that’s how his manager is shopping him.

The team that misses out won’t see BJ as the next best option.
Unless that team is the Roosters?

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Post by BadnMean » November 18, 2019, 9:55 pm

gergreg wrote:
November 18, 2019, 8:48 pm
Coastalraider wrote:The thing is though that the tigers and cowboys are looking at him as a full back, and that’s how his manager is shopping him.

The team that misses out won’t see BJ as the next best option.
Unless that team is the Roosters?

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