With loading etc that would be like 20 weeks.
Hudson Young suspended for eight weeks
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It’s exactly what I’ve said from the word go.Azza wrote:10-12 weeks he's probably gotten off lightly, IMHO
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10-12 weeks is the right, fair and consistant number give this seasons events
i hope in 2020 this type of thing is punished more harshly
i hope in 2020 this type of thing is punished more harshly
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Ahahaha. So you’d rather the judiciary say “better luck next time kiddo, get back out there and give it another go, we’ll ping you then”. Jesus...cat wrote:but he has been found guilty of actually doing it, not having intent, you get found guilty of doing something which in this case i dont believe he actually did do it, yes he may have had intent to do it but he didnt actually do it.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:32 pmI didn’t say he connected. I said he had intent.. he had 2 clear goes at it.cat wrote:Let me "grab your eye socket" and show me that you dont react!Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:26 pmNo it’s not. The video evidence is clear. We can’t have this **** in the game. Clear intent.Billy Walker wrote:That’s a poor outcome!
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The video shows his hands in the area of the eye, it also shows Pompey not reacting. Video footage and photos can be misleading.
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players have stayed on the field because they swung a punch and it missed, they intended to do it but were just bad at it, same here
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I dont know 100% but with a direct referral i dont believe loading etc applies
they hand out punishment based on the incident itself and the facts of the case... if they come back with 12 weeks, it'll be 12, not 12+ loading
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The two statements can be mutually exclusive.T_R wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:35 pmI'd argue that there is no inconsistency between Pompey's two statements and both are equally true.PigRickman wrote:from all accounts they mounted an extremely good case... the video is the video though and when the victim basically gets on the stand and says "snitches get stiches" whatever he's got to say about the incident gets, rightfully IMO, ignored.T_R wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:26 pmThey could just refer it to the video ref and have the suspension underway by halftime.GreenMachine wrote:Well this means that victims evidence is worthless.
What’s the point of the process? Just determine sentence post match and save everyone a Tuesday night late shift.
I think it looked dreadful on video, but I think the defence made a good case.
I also think Young is an utter idiot.
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I don’t understand how anyone (apart from an ex footballer sitting on a panel) could insist otherwise.
It doesn’t excuse Hudson’s stupidity, just shows how grossly incompetent and inconsistent the process is.
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How is this one deemed to be twice as bad as the Gurgess one when the recipient didn’t even notice it.
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Yes the panel has asked for a 10-12 week ban including loading. The post above said 1000 - 1200 point which is a very different charge.PigRickman wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:38 pmI dont know 100% but with a direct referral i dont believe loading etc applies
they hand out punishment based on the incident itself and the facts of the case... if they come back with 12 weeks, it'll be 12, not 12+ loading
I just cannot for the life of me see how this is anywhere near as bad as Burgess on Wobbie.
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That would require trying to understand how the this loaded process works.Northern Raider wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:41 pm How is this one deemed to be twice as bad as the Gurgess one when the recipient didn’t even notice it.
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yes actually i would, and then leave it up to Ricky and the coaching staff to teach him a lesson the real way.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:37 pmAhahaha. So you’d rather the judiciary say “better luck next time kiddo, get back out there and give it another go, we’ll ping you then”. Jesus...cat wrote:but he has been found guilty of actually doing it, not having intent, you get found guilty of doing something which in this case i dont believe he actually did do it, yes he may have had intent to do it but he didnt actually do it.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:32 pmI didn’t say he connected. I said he had intent.. he had 2 clear goes at it.cat wrote:Let me "grab your eye socket" and show me that you dont react!Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:26 pm
No it’s not. The video evidence is clear. We can’t have this **** in the game. Clear intent.
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The video shows his hands in the area of the eye, it also shows Pompey not reacting. Video footage and photos can be misleading.
Is the dress blue or silver? was it a crow or a rabbit?
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players have stayed on the field because they swung a punch and it missed, they intended to do it but were just bad at it, same here
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The judiciary should just focus on each case individually and the facts and the facts show there is no way he actually made contact with his eye
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Also consider he did the same thing McGuire only got a fine for.GreenMachine wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:42 pmThat would require trying to understand how the this loaded process works.Northern Raider wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:41 pm How is this one deemed to be twice as bad as the Gurgess one when the recipient didn’t even notice it.
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NRL counsel is suggesting a penalty range between 10 and 12 games – including loading from his previous charges, depending on whether the panel finds Young's conduct reckless or highly careless.
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That’s ridiculous. The bloke has been caught 3 times. You can’t let him run around unpunished.cat wrote:yes actually i would, and then leave it up to Ricky and the coaching staff to teach him a lesson the real way.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:37 pmAhahaha. So you’d rather the judiciary say “better luck next time kiddo, get back out there and give it another go, we’ll ping you then”. Jesus...cat wrote:but he has been found guilty of actually doing it, not having intent, you get found guilty of doing something which in this case i dont believe he actually did do it, yes he may have had intent to do it but he didnt actually do it.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:32 pmI didn’t say he connected. I said he had intent.. he had 2 clear goes at it.cat wrote: Let me "grab your eye socket" and show me that you dont react!
The video shows his hands in the area of the eye, it also shows Pompey not reacting. Video footage and photos can be misleading.
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players have stayed on the field because they swung a punch and it missed, they intended to do it but were just bad at it, same here
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The judiciary should just focus on each case individually and the facts and the facts show there is no way he actually made contact with his eye
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Re: Hudson Young referred straight to judiciary
If I remember Burgess, he had prior recent Eye gouge charge and previous non related offences and was a hell of a lot worse than this one.
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Nick Ghabar says ‘very top range’ penalty for Hudson Young should be no more than NINE MATCHES ...
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Then perhaps we should have hired you. You and I can and will argue almost anything. By the panel isnt obliged to buy our Bull, however well it's presented.T_R wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:35 pmI'd argue that there is no inconsistency between Pompey's two statements and both are equally true.PigRickman wrote:from all accounts they mounted an extremely good case... the video is the video though and when the victim basically gets on the stand and says "snitches get stiches" whatever he's got to say about the incident gets, rightfully IMO, ignored.T_R wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:26 pmThey could just refer it to the video ref and have the suspension underway by halftime.GreenMachine wrote:Well this means that victims evidence is worthless.
What’s the point of the process? Just determine sentence post match and save everyone a Tuesday night late shift.
I think it looked dreadful on video, but I think the defence made a good case.
I also think Young is an utter idiot.
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Which is exactly what Gurgess got for a far worse eye gouge. They have a very solid argument on that one.
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The club itself is begging for 9 matches.
Game. Set. Match.
Those arguing for a not guilty can hold the L haha
FWIW, given the above post by NR, if G.Burgii got 9, i'd be ok with Young getting 9 too. This has always felt to me as a like for like sort of case.
Game. Set. Match.
Those arguing for a not guilty can hold the L haha
FWIW, given the above post by NR, if G.Burgii got 9, i'd be ok with Young getting 9 too. This has always felt to me as a like for like sort of case.
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I think there is a difference. Once he is found guilty he was always going to get a hefty suspension.PigRickman wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:46 pm The club itself is begging for 9 matches.
Game. Set. Match.
Those arguing for a not guilty can hold the L haha
Doesn’t mean he wasn’t close to being not guilty.
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FYI, this is why the Roosters said no to not letting us go first!
No chance any of you would sign up to let someone jump the **** que and hold you you 2 hours!! haha
No chance any of you would sign up to let someone jump the **** que and hold you you 2 hours!! haha
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Yeah... OK. That's a very fair counter.Bay53 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:48 pmI think there is a difference. Once he is found guilty he was always going to get a hefty suspension.PigRickman wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:46 pm The club itself is begging for 9 matches.
Game. Set. Match.
Those arguing for a not guilty can hold the L haha
Doesn’t mean he wasn’t close to being not guilty.
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He isnt going "unpunished" , as I said I am sure Ricky and the coaching staff will have plans for young Young to do and things he needs to prove before he is let anywhere near a first grade jumper again.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:44 pmThat’s ridiculous. The bloke has been caught 3 times. You can’t let him run around unpunished.cat wrote:yes actually i would, and then leave it up to Ricky and the coaching staff to teach him a lesson the real way.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:37 pmAhahaha. So you’d rather the judiciary say “better luck next time kiddo, get back out there and give it another go, we’ll ping you then”. Jesus...cat wrote:but he has been found guilty of actually doing it, not having intent, you get found guilty of doing something which in this case i dont believe he actually did do it, yes he may have had intent to do it but he didnt actually do it.Danaman137 wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:32 pm
I didn’t say he connected. I said he had intent.. he had 2 clear goes at it.
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players have stayed on the field because they swung a punch and it missed, they intended to do it but were just bad at it, same here
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The judiciary should just focus on each case individually and the facts and the facts show there is no way he actually made contact with his eye
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But he should not be made an example of or heavily suspended based on the evidence in this case, its that simple. The video shows his hand near Pompey's eye , it also shows Pompey not react, as I said get someone to grab your eye socket and see how you react, Pompey wouldn't have been expecting it so he would of reacted even more then you.
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Think it's a fair outcome. Also can I say Brett Finch is a lousy commentator, was an average player and his hysteria at the time was completely over the top.
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Deliberating:
NRL Councel requests Intentional charge and 10-12 week suspension.
Nick Ghabar says Hudson Young’s contact was careless and low level 5-6weeks.
George Burgess tackle referred too by both parties, so was Young’s previous offence.
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Deliberating:
NRL Councel requests Intentional charge and 10-12 week suspension.
Nick Ghabar says Hudson Young’s contact was careless and low level 5-6weeks.
George Burgess tackle referred too by both parties, so was Young’s previous offence.
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The club will try to get less than 9.
What other options are there now that the Kangaroo Court ruled as advised.
What other options are there now that the Kangaroo Court ruled as advised.
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The Gurgess incident has effectively set the standard IMO. Repeat offender referred straight to the judiciary gets 9 weeks. Do it again and you can sit out 12 months.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:51 pm @timrobinsonfox on Twitter
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NRL Councel requests Intentional charge and 10-12 week suspension.
Nick Ghabar says Hudson Young’s contact was careless and low level 5-6weeks.
George Burgess tackle referred too by both parties, so was Young’s previous offence.
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I wonder what the witch is up to now, a few players could do with her magic.....PigRickman wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:52 pmthe witch took care of him, he'll retire without a legitimate championship.
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I don't know, his eye look pretty sore here
'I've got 17 blokes in that dressing room that are hurting'
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Both eyes are closed. Maybe he got the other one too
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Northern Raider wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:55 pmThe Gurgess incident has effectively set the standard IMO. Repeat offender referred straight to the judiciary gets 9 weeks. Do it again and you can sit out 12 months.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 10, 2019, 9:51 pm @timrobinsonfox on Twitter
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NRL Councel requests Intentional charge and 10-12 week suspension.
Nick Ghabar says Hudson Young’s contact was careless and low level 5-6weeks.
George Burgess tackle referred too by both parties, so was Young’s previous offence.
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Yeah i think that's a really fair and balanced point. Hudson does go in a second time, so it wont shock me to see it slightly higher, but 9 vs 10 isnt a game changer for me, anything more than 12 is probably wrong based on precident. I think 9 is the right answer
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The 10-12 weeks includes a 100% loading suggested by the NRL Counsel. Apparently it's optional in this scenario.
I actually don't think it's a 6 week penalty on the offence alone, at least relative to others. I mean his last one was a lot worse.
I actually don't think it's a 6 week penalty on the offence alone, at least relative to others. I mean his last one was a lot worse.
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Disappointing. He might not have been the first choice this week but realistically over a 3-4 week finals campaign we are probably going to lose someone and he would have got a run.
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and meanwhile Kane Evans has fallen asleep..........
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Yeah but we have Guler and Havili to call on as well. We’re OK to cover his loss.
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