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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by dubby » September 8, 2019, 9:04 am

There's been plenty of gossip surrounding Rapana, and I'm of the opinion he's certainly looking at options, but nothing has really landed for him.

It seems the club are happy to let him chase the big dollars he could earn elsewhere, which I'm ok with. He's played extremely well for us and is a huge favorite of mine. If a 30 year old winger can earn heaps more elsewhere, let him go. We did the same with Shifcofske.

That said, I dearly hope his body can mend and he gets back to his best and stays with us.

I love his energy, competitive nature, and enthusiasm. He and BJ bring that x factor that was pivotal to us in 16.

I like Oldfield, but he's a good backup. I don't think I want him fulltime on the wing in NRL. Kris is learning, but be strikes me as a better center.

I honestly think Cotric prefers the wing anyway. With Simmonsen and Cotric on the wings we look fine.

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Post by greeneyed » September 8, 2019, 9:07 am

The Raiders didn't let Schifcofske go... he walked out early, which was permitted under the terms of his contract.
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Post by yurithe1 » September 8, 2019, 10:40 am

He's been a great plater for us and at 30, with all the injuries he's sustained, he might have two more years in him if he stays in the NRL.

If he goes to Japanese Rugby, his career could extend into his late 30s. Wingers in Union are more likely to catch a cold than a pass from a team mate (TIC). Plus, apart from the imported players, Japanese players are much lighter.

Good luck to him either way.

I saw enough of Simonnsen yesterday to feel comfortable that there is a replacement waiting to step up, even though he was at fullback.
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by rayden83 » September 8, 2019, 1:36 pm

Rapana is a world class winger possibly one of the best ever, Simonssen is a rookie who shows promise but at this stage of his career isn’t fit to shine Rapana’s boots.

The comparisons are absurd, no different to when people were calling for Dugan to be let go because we had found an adequate replacement in Reece Robinson. How’d that one turn out?

I like Simonsson but he is very raw and while he shows glimpses, I haven’t seen anything yet to indicate he’s got star qualities. Rapana is only 30, last week we got dominated by Morris who is 35, Raps has at least 3 years in him at the highest level and we should try everything to keep him (and BJ) at the club. At this stage a back line that consists of Simonsson-Cotric-Croker-Oldfield would make us solid contenders for the wooden spoon.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by dubby » September 8, 2019, 1:44 pm

greeneyed wrote:The Raiders didn't let Schifcofske go... he walked out early, which was permitted under the terms of his contract.
They let him go. He had a massive offer to leave, DFJ understood and didn't stand in his way.

Mind you, I was filthy with how he left. Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by greeneyed » September 8, 2019, 2:08 pm

dubby wrote:
greeneyed wrote:The Raiders didn't let Schifcofske go... he walked out early, which was permitted under the terms of his contract.
They let him go. He had a massive offer to leave, DFJ understood and didn't stand in his way.

Mind you, I was filthy with how he left. Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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Post by dubby » September 8, 2019, 2:12 pm

Matt Elliott?

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Post by The Rickman » September 8, 2019, 2:48 pm

PigRickman wrote:A blue friend of mine told me about this about a week ago, said the plan was for him to play Jap Rugby and then come back into the Raiders team before june 30 to finish the season off with us on a reduced deal
That blue friend of yours has also never once given you a correct scoop either, so let’s take this one with a grain of salt too
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by The Rickman » September 8, 2019, 3:57 pm

Haha should’ve read the whole thread first.... ****ITALL!


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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by kiwi raider » September 8, 2019, 9:15 pm

julian87 wrote:
September 8, 2019, 7:53 am
If he goes there, bags some cash and then returns it’s probably the best outcome for him and us.
Yup, means we get our guy for less as we're only paying him for half a season but rapana still gets his much deserved pay day, normally you'd worry that we'd miss him early on in the season but I think our depth is pretty good out wide with Simmonsson, Oldy and Kris as well as smith shields coming through they should be able to hold there own.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by FROG » September 9, 2019, 6:17 am

There is some noise about him returning to the nrl. Not sure if this is more reputable than pigs blue friend but there may be something in it

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Sid » September 9, 2019, 7:07 am

Wasn’t there a player blocked from doing something like that in the past ?
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Post by gergreg » September 9, 2019, 7:40 am

Sid wrote:Wasn’t there a player blocked from doing something like that in the past ?
Maybe Benji years ago but the NRL sat idly by while SBW did exactly the same thing.

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Post by edwahu » September 9, 2019, 8:01 am

Good luck to the NRL winning a court case if they tried to block him.

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Post by julian87 » September 9, 2019, 8:09 am

Why would the NRL block it. If a player wants to back themselves with 1 season deals like that who is it hurting?
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by gangrenous » September 9, 2019, 8:15 am

Equity for the salary cap?

You think it was fair that the Roosters could add SBW on a fraction of his true cost to their finals team?

The NRL should never have allowed it. But since they did, let’s do it.

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Post by edwahu » September 9, 2019, 8:35 am

Reading back on the Benji case it seems like the Tigers wanted to do it while he was still on contract. So it's a little different, the Rapana example would be a text book restraint of trade.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Riaan » September 9, 2019, 8:57 am

It’s pretty obvious that’s he’s gone. Remember the last guy that turned down a more than fair offer from us? I like tap Ana but turning down 500k a year was a poor move.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by edwahu » September 9, 2019, 9:52 am

Riaan wrote:
September 9, 2019, 8:57 am
It’s pretty obvious that’s he’s gone. Remember the last guy that turned down a more than fair offer from us? I like tap Ana but turning down 500k a year was a poor move.
It's a bit soon to make that call, he could make a lot more and still play half a season for us.

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dubby wrote:
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T_R wrote:Bit of a glamour club in Japanese rugby, but located in a complete armpit of a city

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Not being smart, but how do you get a glamour club in an armpit of a city? What city is it anyway?

I thought all Japanese cities would be better then anything we could do, TBH.
It would be like taking the Broncos and shifting them to Ipswich. Ota is an almost-satellite city of Tokyo, filled with people making 90 minute commutes morning and night to their work in the big smoke. It's baking hot and grossly humid in summer. I'd imagine that most of the players would base themselves in western Tokyo and commute out against the traffic.

I used to date a girl from out that way who was into some fairly unusual stuff. If this is typical of people there, it may well be a major attraction for the area.
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T_R wrote:
September 9, 2019, 10:19 am
dubby wrote:
September 7, 2019, 10:30 pm
T_R wrote:Bit of a glamour club in Japanese rugby, but located in a complete armpit of a city

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Not being smart, but how do you get a glamour club in an armpit of a city? What city is it anyway?

I thought all Japanese cities would be better then anything we could do, TBH.
It would be like taking the Broncos and shifting them to Ipswich. Ota is an almost-satellite city of Tokyo, filled with people making 90 minute commutes morning and night to their work in the big smoke. It's baking hot and grossly humid in summer. I'd imagine that most of the players would base themselves in western Tokyo and commute out against the traffic.

I used to date a girl from out that way who was into some fairly unusual stuff. If this is typical of people there, it may well be a major attraction for the area.
Well OBVIOUSLY she was into unusual stuff.
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby switch

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The Rickman wrote:
September 9, 2019, 10:20 am
T_R wrote:
September 9, 2019, 10:19 am
dubby wrote:
September 7, 2019, 10:30 pm
T_R wrote:Bit of a glamour club in Japanese rugby, but located in a complete armpit of a city

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Not being smart, but how do you get a glamour club in an armpit of a city? What city is it anyway?

I thought all Japanese cities would be better then anything we could do, TBH.
It would be like taking the Broncos and shifting them to Ipswich. Ota is an almost-satellite city of Tokyo, filled with people making 90 minute commutes morning and night to their work in the big smoke. It's baking hot and grossly humid in summer. I'd imagine that most of the players would base themselves in western Tokyo and commute out against the traffic.

I used to date a girl from out that way who was into some fairly unusual stuff. If this is typical of people there, it may well be a major attraction for the area.
Well OBVIOUSLY she was into unusual stuff.
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Riaan wrote: I like tap Ana but turning down 500k a year was a poor move.
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edwahu wrote:
September 9, 2019, 8:35 am
Reading back on the Benji case it seems like the Tigers wanted to do it while he was still on contract. So it's a little different, the Rapana example would be a text book restraint of trade.
It’s an interesting angle. What is stopping Cam Smith playing on a 50c Storm contract but picking up $2.5m a season from the indoor cricket team he is released to plays for over the off season that is backed by a deep pocketed club sponsor?

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T_R wrote:
dubby wrote:
September 7, 2019, 10:30 pm
T_R wrote:Bit of a glamour club in Japanese rugby, but located in a complete armpit of a city

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Not being smart, but how do you get a glamour club in an armpit of a city? What city is it anyway?

I thought all Japanese cities would be better then anything we could do, TBH.
It would be like taking the Broncos and shifting them to Ipswich. Ota is an almost-satellite city of Tokyo, filled with people making 90 minute commutes morning and night to their work in the big smoke. It's baking hot and grossly humid in summer. I'd imagine that most of the players would base themselves in western Tokyo and commute out against the traffic.

I used to date a girl from out that way who was into some fairly unusual stuff. If this is typical of people there, it may well be a major attraction for the area.
Ugh. Point well taken.

Ipswich is an armpit of a place.

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Sid wrote:Wasn’t there a player blocked from doing something like that in the past ?
Radradra tried I think

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Post by Brewdle » September 9, 2019, 10:49 pm

Doesn’t the NRL place some kid of arbitrary market value on a player to ensure they’re not signed to massive unders??


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rayden83 wrote:
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Rapana is a world class winger possibly one of the best ever, Simonssen is a rookie who shows promise but at this stage of his career isn’t fit to shine Rapana’s boots.

The comparisons are absurd, no different to when people were calling for Dugan to be let go because we had found an adequate replacement in Reece Robinson. How’d that one turn out?

I like Simonsson but he is very raw and while he shows glimpses, I haven’t seen anything yet to indicate he’s got star qualities. Rapana is only 30, last week we got dominated by Morris who is 35, Raps has at least 3 years in him at the highest level and we should try everything to keep him (and BJ) at the club. At this stage a back line that consists of Simonsson-Cotric-Croker-Oldfield would make us solid contenders for the wooden spoon.
Robinson was never in Dugan's class. People just wanted him to be the silver lining to the black cloud.

Rapana was a world class winger, but this year his form has been nowhere near that quality. Simonnsen has shown plenty of promise. He'd definitely not Jordan Rapana at his best, but he's been arguably better than Rapa this season.

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Post by greeneyed » September 10, 2019, 12:59 pm

Rapana wants new Raiders deal over Japanese rugby move

Kiwi international Jordan Rapana is desperate to remain in lime green but concedes Canberra's salary cap pressure may see him turn to Japanese rugby union.

"The contracts and that are still up in the air but I'll tell you right now, this is ideally where I want to be," Rapana said.

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Post by AUSTEZER » September 10, 2019, 8:02 pm

I'd prefer Oldiie takes Jordan's place should he defect to Japanese Rugby. Just for his speed alone ,bloke is a rocket in boots.

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AUSTEZER wrote:
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I'd prefer Oldiie takes Jordan's place should he defect to Japanese Rugby. Just for his speed alone ,bloke is a rocket in boots.
I don't think Stuart and co see it that way, due to Simo's varied talents and must be a freak in the gym/track/training paddock.

But Oldie knows his game, knows where to put himself and how to reach that stripe. He's been found out as a centre defensively but as a winger he's big, strong and just fine. Same with his carries out. His energy and line busting ability are easily as good or better than SImo's single turn backwards at the line (slow down) hit and spin move. Oldie just crashed through.

I'm even stevens here- Simo is better defensively and hands. Oldie better yards and speed. Simo more potential upside but also potentially never quite get it. Oldie knows league. Does his job- well.

I think it's win-win at this point.

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » September 11, 2019, 3:49 pm

BadnMean wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:24 pm
AUSTEZER wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:02 pm
I'd prefer Oldiie takes Jordan's place should he defect to Japanese Rugby. Just for his speed alone ,bloke is a rocket in boots.
I don't think Stuart and co see it that way, due to Simo's varied talents and must be a freak in the gym/track/training paddock.

But Oldie knows his game, knows where to put himself and how to reach that stripe. He's been found out as a centre defensively but as a winger he's big, strong and just fine. Same with his carries out. His energy and line busting ability are easily as good or better than SImo's single turn backwards at the line (slow down) hit and spin move. Oldie just crashed through.

I'm even stevens here- Simo is better defensively and hands. Oldie better yards and speed. Simo more potential upside but also potentially never quite get it. Oldie knows league. Does his job- well.

I think it's win-win at this point.
Oldie certainly had his initial struggles at centre, but I reckon he has been better there than Cotric this year.

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