I’ll take their way every time.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:47 pmWhat's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
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And when Australia’s population hits 327.8 million like the US, we will probably have the audience and economics for the US system to work here as well. But till then....sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 3:03 pmI’ll take their way every time.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:47 pmWhat's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
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Bingo!greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:47 pmWhat's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
'Bee Sting Eyes' has a motive, and you called it out.
He wants a Sydney team playing in the GF every year.
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FWIW I reckon west tigers should be relocated to perth. They would still play circa 10 to 12 games in sydney, and could come up with creative membership opportunities on that basis. They wouldn't even have tp change their name!
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It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
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One conference would have games spread from NZ to Melbourne, Brisbane, G Coast, Townsville, Newcastle and Canberra plus two other locations, probably Brisbane and Perth. The others would just need a bus pass.
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Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 9:55 pmIt was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
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I did actually and have clear recollectiongreeneyed wrote:Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 9:55 pmIt was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
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Great write up on expansion that you won’t get in the Papers
https://pythagonrl.com/2019/09/04/on-ex ... th-sydney/
https://pythagonrl.com/2019/09/04/on-ex ... th-sydney/
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Amen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 11:24 pmDr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 9:55 pmIt was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.sprintman wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 2:41 pmWorks well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’greeneyed wrote: ↑September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL
Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.
"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0
What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
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All it took was for someone with money to get teams to jump ship. I still recall putting money in the bucket to save the Raiders because the NSWRL wanted to kick them out for salary cap breaches.Billy Walker wrote: ↑September 5, 2019, 6:41 amAmen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 11:24 pmDr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 9:55 pmIt was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Best moment out of the Super League "war" was when Arko discovered that Kerry Packer had jumped ship as well and joined forces with Murdoch.
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I’ve still got a bottle of Raiders red wine at home with $1 from every sale going towards the players fund. I wouldn’t think it’s aged well hahayurithe1 wrote: ↑September 5, 2019, 11:40 amAll it took was for someone with money to get teams to jump ship. I still recall putting money in the bucket to save the Raiders because the NSWRL wanted to kick them out for salary cap breaches.Billy Walker wrote: ↑September 5, 2019, 6:41 amAmen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.greeneyed wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 11:24 pmDr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.Dr Zaius wrote: ↑September 4, 2019, 9:55 pmIt was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Best moment out of the Super League "war" was when Arko discovered that Kerry Packer had jumped ship as well and joined forces with Murdoch.
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All i want is a team back here in perth
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I'm using the Matty rule and giving us a 0/5 chance of the raiders relocating.
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Yes that needs to happen, it opens up different time slots etc.. great for the NRL and broadcastersPerthRaider86 wrote:All i want is a team back here in perth
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