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Who will win?

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edwahu wrote: June 14, 2019, 1:09 pm Confirmed no charge for Bateman

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/14/rou ... miss-test/

Very lucky on that one
Lucky? His contact with the head and neck was incidental at worst. There was absolutely no intention in it.
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Is it Team List Tuesday yet? Which day is that?
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reptar wrote:Is it Team List Tuesday yet? Which day is that?
Sunday I thinkImage

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dubby wrote:
reptar wrote:Is it Team List Tuesday yet? Which day is that?
Sunday I thinkImage

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Thank you, that helped!
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1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Havili
10. Sutton
11. Whitehead
12. Bateman
13. Tapine

14. Hodgson
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Horsburgh

18. Williams
19. Guler
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1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papa
9. Hodgson
10. Lui
11. Whitehead
12. Bateman
13. Tapine

14. Starling
15. Soliola
16. Horsburgh
17. Sutton

If Cotric is out I would be moving Whitehead to centre and bringing in Murchie to the bench. Tapine to 11 and Sutton to 13.

At this stage, I like Starling over Havilii for the utility. He is fast and adds a little more zip which gives the team attacking options in the last 20 minutes of the game.


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Dylan Brown expected to be back for this match for the Eels according to Fox commentary


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Danger game here. Really hope Hodgson is back.

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Soliola
17. Kris
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Wiki Special wrote: June 16, 2019, 3:29 pm Danger game here. Really hope Hodgson is back.

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Soliola
17. Kris
Why Kris on the bench and not Starling or Guler?
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BadnMean wrote: June 16, 2019, 4:09 pm
Wiki Special wrote: June 16, 2019, 3:29 pm Danger game here. Really hope Hodgson is back.

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Soliola
17. Kris
Why Kris on the bench and not Starling or Guler?
Starling and Guler would be redundant in that team for Kris and essentially only injury cover imo.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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LastRaider wrote: June 15, 2019, 8:36 pm
If Cotric is out I would be moving Whitehead to centre and bringing in Murchie to the bench. Tapine to 11 and Sutton to 13.

At this stage, I like Starling over Havilii for the utility. He is fast and adds a little more zip which gives the team attacking options in the last 20 minutes of the game.


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Gee I couldn’t disagree more with this.

Shifting Whitehead rather than using Oldfield or even Kris is absolute madness imo.

Starling wouldn’t be allowed to play with Hodgson back for a start. And it’s a stretch to suggest he offers more than Havili at hooker and covers no other positions at all.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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BadnMean wrote: June 16, 2019, 4:09 pm
Wiki Special wrote: June 16, 2019, 3:29 pm Danger game here. Really hope Hodgson is back.

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Soliola
17. Kris
Why Kris on the bench and not Starling or Guler?
Mainly because that 4th bench spot has traditionally only seen 10-20 minutes max and with 3 middle forwards - one of whom can play hooker - already on the bench I would rather have Kris there just in case we need injury cover in the backs. Plus Stuart has used a back as the 4th bench spot a few times already this year.
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Wiki Special wrote: June 16, 2019, 3:29 pm Danger game here. Really hope Hodgson is back.

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Oldfield
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Sutton
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Soliola
17. Kris
I like this team. The only change I'd make would be to rest Soliola for a week and play Guler (or Horsburgh if he's good to go) instead. He's been a bit off the pace.
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Hopefully Rapana, Tapine and charnze are feeling better in 2 weeks! Tough with those guys out too Image

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BadnMean wrote:
Steve05 wrote: June 14, 2019, 9:33 pm
HAS everyone forgotten about KRIS?
Welome to the forum Mr Kris :hi
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Here’s how I’d go:

1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Cotric (Oldbeard)
5. Rapana
6. Jack
7. Sezer
8. Paps
9. Hodgo (Havili)
10. Sutton
11. Whitehead
12. Bateman
13. Tarps

14. Havili (Starling)
15. Lui
16. Sia
17. Horsburg (Guler)
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julian87 wrote: June 16, 2019, 7:06 pm
LastRaider wrote: June 15, 2019, 8:36 pm
If Cotric is out I would be moving Whitehead to centre and bringing in Murchie to the bench. Tapine to 11 and Sutton to 13.

At this stage, I like Starling over Havilii for the utility. He is fast and adds a little more zip which gives the team attacking options in the last 20 minutes of the game.


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Gee I couldn’t disagree more with this.

Shifting Whitehead rather than using Oldfield or even Kris is absolute madness imo.

Starling wouldn’t be allowed to play with Hodgson back for a start. And it’s a stretch to suggest he offers more than Havili at hooker and covers no other positions at all.
Yeh I like Havilli as a bench forward if Hodgo is playing.
Seb Kris looked good when he played and Id like to see him again. Then again Oldfield has good positioning in attack - always seems to be johnny on the spot to bag a try. Maybe him instead of Kris if we are getting value for money (assuming hes getting paid more - even though its not about that its about the win).
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julian87 wrote:
LastRaider wrote: June 15, 2019, 8:36 pm
If Cotric is out I would be moving Whitehead to centre and bringing in Murchie to the bench. Tapine to 11 and Sutton to 13.

At this stage, I like Starling over Havilii for the utility. He is fast and adds a little more zip which gives the team attacking options in the last 20 minutes of the game.

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Gee I couldn’t disagree more with this.

Shifting Whitehead rather than using Oldfield or even Kris is absolute madness imo.

Starling wouldn’t be allowed to play with Hodgson back for a start. And it’s a stretch to suggest he offers more than Havili at hooker and covers no other positions at all.
Havilii on the bench though is just like carrying another middle forward, and as we have a fitter team this year I see more benefit of having someone fast who can come on and offer something different in attack. Because if our attack isn’t clicking during the game, at least there’s an option up our sleeve. I don’t believe Havilii provides this option. My 2c worth anyway.

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If Cotric is out:

CNK, Simmonsen, Croker, Kris, Rapana

Simple.
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PigRickman wrote:If Cotric is out:

CNK, Simmonsen, Croker, Kris, Rapana

Simple.
You have Kris in front of Oldbeard?
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The Rickman wrote: June 17, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:If Cotric is out:

CNK, Simmonsen, Croker, Kris, Rapana

Simple.
You have Kris in front of Oldbeard?
Oldfield had a few goes in firsts this year and hasn't been involved as much as I'd like. Wouldn't mind seeing Seb Kris get another crack.
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If Hodgo plays, Stuart is almost certainly carrying Havili on the bench.

I hope some of you guys realise it is going to be high 20's and humid in Darwin when we play. Depth in the forwards is essential - especially a bloke than can cover hooker and the back row.

It would be nuts to put an outside back on the bench in those conditions. Especially when Bateman can cover the centres, as can Wighton and Whitehead at a pinch.
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I like Starling. But if Hodgo is back what are people that want Starling in the team suggest we do with him? For him to get minutes without an injury you either need to pull Hodgo off the field or move him into halfback. Or am I missing something.
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kona_dream wrote:I like Starling. But if Hodgo is back what are people that want Starling in the team suggest we do with him? For him to get minutes without an injury you either need to pull Hodgo off the field or move him into halfback. Or am I missing something.
Starling is a development contract player. He can't play when Hodgson is fit.
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The Rickman wrote: June 17, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:If Cotric is out:

CNK, Simmonsen, Croker, Kris, Rapana

Simple.
You have Kris in front of Oldbeard?
At centre, I do
Also I’m a known ageist and prefer to go with a kid whose potential is significantly higher than Oldbeard

But that’s just for me, and I understand why people would have it reversed
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reptar wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:58 am
kona_dream wrote:I like Starling. But if Hodgo is back what are people that want Starling in the team suggest we do with him? For him to get minutes without an injury you either need to pull Hodgo off the field or move him into halfback. Or am I missing something.
Starling is a development contract player. He can't play when Hodgson is fit.
He can after 30 June, can’t he? Or is dispensation needed?
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An injury to 1 Hooker and we need to get dispensation from the NRL. How did this occur? If I was the NRL i would say sorry but that that is poor management. I thought Starling was brought in as 30th player.
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PigRickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:55 am
The Rickman wrote: June 17, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:If Cotric is out:

CNK, Simmonsen, Croker, Kris, Rapana

Simple.
You have Kris in front of Oldbeard?
At centre, I do
Also I’m a known ageist and prefer to go with a kid whose potential is significantly higher than Oldbeard

But that’s just for me, and I understand why people would have it reversed
Ahhhh ok, for a second there I thought you'd done a D&D version of Season 8 GoT and just kindof forgot about Oldbeard.
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kona_dream wrote:An injury to 1 Hooker and we need to get dispensation from the NRL. How did this occur? If I was the NRL i would say sorry but that that is poor management. I thought Starling was brought in as 30th player.
Nope, they signed him as a development player and got dispensation to allow him to play.


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kona_dream wrote: June 18, 2019, 10:23 am An injury to 1 Hooker and we need to get dispensation from the NRL. How did this occur? If I was the NRL i would say sorry but that that is poor management. I thought Starling was brought in as 30th player.
At the time of the dispensation, i think we had 10 players from our top 30 out, and needed to name 21 players... at that point it's not poor management at all, and the NRL had to let us promote someone to even name 21 fit human beings on Tuesday... at that point, why would the NRL care which player we are promoting?
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PigRickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:33 am
kona_dream wrote: June 18, 2019, 10:23 am An injury to 1 Hooker and we need to get dispensation from the NRL. How did this occur? If I was the NRL i would say sorry but that that is poor management. I thought Starling was brought in as 30th player.
At the time of the dispensation, i think we had 10 players from our top 30 out, and needed to name 21 players... at that point it's not poor management at all, and the NRL had to let us promote someone to even name 21 fit human beings on Tuesday... at that point, why would the NRL care which player we are promoting?
I agree with kona. If your squad depth, even if we were fullstrength, requires you to reach outside your top 30 if you got just one injury then something is wrong. Unless you think we should ata 14 again?
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Can we do a dummy Team List Tuesday run through. ?
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-PJ- wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:18 pm Can we do a dummy Team List Tuesday run through. ?
Yes. Hope that helps.
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It does.
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