Canberra Raiders forward Hudson Young takes early plea, will miss five matches
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Canberra Raiders forward Hudson Young takes early plea, will miss five matches
Hudgson Young faces seven-match ban for dangerous contact
Hudson Young has been charged with grade-three dangerous contact - head/neck (eye contact) from an incident involving Bulldogs prop Aiden Tolman in the 34th minute of Canberra's 12-10 win.
He will receive a five-game ban if he submits an early guilty plea but could miss seven matches if he challenges the charge unsuccessfully at the judiciary due to a prior similar offence in the past two years.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/31/rou ... -striking/
Hudson Young has been charged with grade-three dangerous contact - head/neck (eye contact) from an incident involving Bulldogs prop Aiden Tolman in the 34th minute of Canberra's 12-10 win.
He will receive a five-game ban if he submits an early guilty plea but could miss seven matches if he challenges the charge unsuccessfully at the judiciary due to a prior similar offence in the past two years.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/31/rou ... -striking/
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Disproportionate considering Josh McGuire got a fine.
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Hudson looking at 5-7 weeks on the sideline
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/31/rou ... -striking/
Early plea gets 5 , challenges gets 7
Wow the match review could see something that was so bad it was a grade 3.
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Early plea gets 5 , challenges gets 7
Wow the match review could see something that was so bad it was a grade 3.
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What are they seeing i can't?greeneyed wrote:Disproportionate considering Josh McGuire got a fine.
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Footage is not clear and what i can see is not conclusive
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Weird, I’m watching the game for the first time now and a minute after the penalty a notification comes through for the 5-7 week charge
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Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
Wow. That is ridiculous.
I just can’t see the justification for a grade 3
I just can’t see the justification for a grade 3
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Fight the charge!!!
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Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
Fight the charge
Show the footage of McGuire as defense
No way in the world that’s a grade 3 and worth 5 weeks.
Show the footage of McGuire as defense
No way in the world that’s a grade 3 and worth 5 weeks.
Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
They should fight the charge and with a decent lawyer will at minimum get it reduced. I don't think the footage conclusively shows an eye gouge and the precedent was set with Macguire.
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The club should at least fight the severity of the charge.
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To me a gouge means sticking your fingers in the players eyes and Grade 3 suggests he didn't just contact the eyes but directly attacked them.
I don't see footage that shows that. Maybe I am biased though.
What was the previous charge he got loading for anyway?
I don't see footage that shows that. Maybe I am biased though.
What was the previous charge he got loading for anyway?
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Is there a clip of it anywhere? I missed seeing any replays of it last night.
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****.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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This is the McGuire incident: https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/watch ... 5eadb59f4d
Neither are good incidents, but McGuire was fined $3350.
Neither are good incidents, but McGuire was fined $3350.
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And he had 3 prior incidents loading. His base fine was $1500.greeneyed wrote: ↑June 2, 2019, 12:12 pm This is the McGuire incident: https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/watch ... 5eadb59f4d
Neither are good incidents, but McGuire was fined $3350.
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Based on that footage, that’s a very ugly incident and deserves a lengthy suspension
If we can avoid one because the MRC/Judiciary set a bad precedent, so be it. But that footage is damning to say the least.
If we can avoid one because the MRC/Judiciary set a bad precedent, so be it. But that footage is damning to say the least.
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Canberra Raiders forward Hudson Young hit with massive ban
Canberra Raiders forward Hudson Young faces up to seven weeks on the sidelines for an alleged eye gouge in the Green Machine's gutsy 12-10 win over the Canterbury Bulldogs.
The Raiders are still considering their options, but could opt to take the early guilty plea simply because of the enormity of the risk of fighting the charge.
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
Canberra Raiders forward Hudson Young faces up to seven weeks on the sidelines for an alleged eye gouge in the Green Machine's gutsy 12-10 win over the Canterbury Bulldogs.
The Raiders are still considering their options, but could opt to take the early guilty plea simply because of the enormity of the risk of fighting the charge.
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
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The NRL **** up when the let McGuire off and now we are paying the price, it’s absolutely **** , the game is run by a bunch of muppets
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Thanks, also just saw it on the footy show. It is bad and deserves a suspension. Is it 5 weeks worse than McGuire's? Not in my opinion, but still deserves maybe 2-3 weeks.edwahu wrote:https://streamable.com/4uejx
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It doesn't look good I agree. The question is the severity of the charge in my mind. If he got seven weeks, that'd be the longest suspension since 2004, they were just saying on The Sunday Footy Show. It is disproportionate. The lack of consistency with what the MRC does is astounding, really.PigRickman wrote: ↑June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm Based on that footage, that’s a very ugly incident and deserves a lengthy suspension
If we can avoid one because the MRC/Judiciary set a bad precedent, so be it. But that footage is damning to say the least.
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Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
Seven weeks is insane. Burgess literally does this **** every week. O'Neill was let off with a fine. What the frick.
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Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
I’m fine with 5 weeks if that was consistent
As others have raised, the problem is this is no better or worse than McGuire who go a fine
So the consistency is absolutely wild
I think these sorts of incidents SHOULD be heavily punished. But it’s not right to give McGuire $1500 and sit Young for 5 weeks.
As others have raised, the problem is this is no better or worse than McGuire who go a fine
So the consistency is absolutely wild
I think these sorts of incidents SHOULD be heavily punished. But it’s not right to give McGuire $1500 and sit Young for 5 weeks.
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Do you think that's the worst possible grading of eye gouge though?PigRickman wrote: ↑June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm Based on that footage, that’s a very ugly incident and deserves a lengthy suspension
If we can avoid one because the MRC/Judiciary set a bad precedent, so be it. But that footage is damning to say the least.
I agree it was grubby but for me there is a fine line between a facial and what he did but a massive leap between a facial and a genuine grade 3 gouge.
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Looked a legit gouge to me
As for most severe grading, probably not, but it’s not a low grade either
As said, the punishment to me fits the crime, the problem is some other clown got a fine for what I thought was a similar offence
As for most severe grading, probably not, but it’s not a low grade either
As said, the punishment to me fits the crime, the problem is some other clown got a fine for what I thought was a similar offence
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Steve Linnane got a full season for his on Brandy.
5 weeks is right for this act but as others have said that's not what others have got for the same act if not worse with Maguire hooking his fingers into the eye area getting a slap on the wrist.
5 weeks is right for this act but as others have said that's not what others have got for the same act if not worse with Maguire hooking his fingers into the eye area getting a slap on the wrist.
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Also, just FYI
The grading would normally be 2 weeks with an early plea, he’s copped 50% loading for similar incident in the last two years
So that’s why it’s so high
Aside from my issues with the judiciary’s laughable “similar offences” fiasco, that puts this his grading into a different light
The grading would normally be 2 weeks with an early plea, he’s copped 50% loading for similar incident in the last two years
So that’s why it’s so high
Aside from my issues with the judiciary’s laughable “similar offences” fiasco, that puts this his grading into a different light
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That's why I don't see it as a grade 3. He had his fingers together from what I could see and didn't hook them into his eyes.
This would be the other recent precedent
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/07/geo ... eye-gouge/
Linnane was next level and detached Brandy's retina.
This would be the other recent precedent
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/07/geo ... eye-gouge/
Linnane was next level and detached Brandy's retina.
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What a joke
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Yeah that’s fair, I don’t think Young’s is that different, the intent is there and just dumb luck he wasn’t as effective
But it’s a different committee so not sure how successful we’d be using it as evidence
What was McGuire’s base charge? That’s our grounds for downgrading imo
But it’s a different committee so not sure how successful we’d be using it as evidence
What was McGuire’s base charge? That’s our grounds for downgrading imo
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Grade one, but Munster didn't make an official complaintPigRickman wrote:Yeah that’s fair, I don’t think Young’s is that different, the intent is there and just dumb luck he wasn’t as effective
But it’s a different committee so not sure how successful we’d be using it as evidence
What was McGuire’s base charge? That’s our grounds for downgrading imo
I reckon Tolman has
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So we might get down to a grade one and then he misses probably 3 weeks instead of 5.-TW- wrote: ↑June 2, 2019, 1:00 pmGrade one, but Munster didn't make an official complaintPigRickman wrote:Yeah that’s fair, I don’t think Young’s is that different, the intent is there and just dumb luck he wasn’t as effective
But it’s a different committee so not sure how successful we’d be using it as evidence
What was McGuire’s base charge? That’s our grounds for downgrading imo
I reckon Tolman has
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I’d plead guilty and contest grading. Caps us at 5, gets us a good shout at less
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Yeah I would say that's the best strategy. Even Grade 2 would get a couple of weeks less.
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Re: Hudson Young facing up to seven weeks on the sideline
Yeah, focus on Burgess tapes, that grubby **** is always doing stuff like this.
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