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Who will win?

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2019 Rd 1 V Titans: Teams and Previews

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Canberra Raiders V Gold Coast Titans
Sunday 17 March 6:10pm AEDT 5:10pm local
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Radio: ABC, Mix 106.3

The trials are over, and the Raiders have had two come from behind victories against the Eels and the Bulldogs. So, who should line up for the Raiders in the Round 1 clash with the Titans on the Gold Coast? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Bailey Simonsson
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson (C)
10. Sia Soliola
11. Joe Tapine
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. John Bateman

14. Siliva Havili
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Dunamis Lui
17. Corey Horsburgh

18. Sam Williams
19. Jack Murchie
20. Luke Bateman
21. JJ Collins

Gold Coast Titans

1. Michael Gordon
2. Brenko Lee
3. Tyrone Peachey
4. Brian Kelly
5. Phillip Sami
6. Tyrone Roberts
7. Ash Taylor
8. Jarrod Wallace
9. Nathan Peats
10. Shannon Boyd
11. Kevin Proctor
12. Ryan James ©
13. Jai Arrow

14. Alexander Brimson
15. Moeaki Fotuaika
16. Max King
17. Bryce Cartwright

18. Mitch Rein
19. Dale Copley
20. Anthony Don
21. Keegan Hipgrave

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Sideline Officials: Mark Bohan, Phil Henderson
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Ok, so after a preseason that feels like it has dragged on for an age, here is the round 1 team I think Ricky should name:

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Horsburgh
16. Guler
17. Sutton / Lui / Hunt
18. Sutton / Lui / Hunt
19.
20. Williams
21. ?


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2020: 1. Nicol-Klokstad 2. Cotric 3. Croker (c) 4 Leilua 5. Scott 6. Wighton 7. G. Williams 8. Papalii 9. Hodgson (c) 10. Sutton 11. J. Bateman 12. Whitehead 13. Tapine ----
14. Simmonson 15. Soliola 16. Guler 17. Horsburgh
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I wish Horsburgh would get the spot ahead of L.Bateman but you just know it won't happen. He would be a bigger chance of displacing Guler or Lui.
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1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Hunt
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papalii

14. J.Bateman
15. Horsburgh
16. Guler
17. Lui


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I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
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LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 7:50 am 1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Hunt
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papalii

14. J.Bateman
15. Horsburgh
16. Guler
17. Lui


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I see this as the side that gets picked but with Havili in for Lui and Sutton for Horsburgh.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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greeneyed wrote:I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
I don’t think you can put him straight in. I think he needs to play a couple of games coming of the bench before expecting him to play 60 mins +.


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1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. BJ
5. Oldy
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Lui
9. Hodgson
10. Papa
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Horsburg
16. Sia
17. Sutton, Bateman or Guler (can't split them based on the two trials)

20. Williams.
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LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:26 am
greeneyed wrote:I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
I don’t think you can put him straight in. I think he needs to play a couple of games coming of the bench before expecting him to play 60 mins +.


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The guy plays 80 minutes in test matches. Fitness shouldn't be an issue if he has been able to train.
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LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:26 am
greeneyed wrote:I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
I don’t think you can put him straight in. I think he needs to play a couple of games coming of the bench before expecting him to play 60 mins +.


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Except that Ricky didn't do that with either Hodgo or Whitehead- he flogged them both with massive minutes early doors until the adjusted. Whitehead was near falling over at times but kept making his tackles... I personally don't see Ricky changing that strategy for Bateman, but we'll see.
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Bateman will be ready to play 80 if Ricky needs him to. Hopefully whatever injury kept him out of the trial isn't impacting his training too much.
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1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. J.Bateman

14. Havili
15. Lui
16. Guler
17. Horsburgh
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The FG players looked lacking in match fitness against the Doggies. If they don't lift in intensity as far as line speed, the Titans will put on early points after gaining 15+ metres per run up the middle. Bench spots and how Ricky uses them (there's a worrying thought based on the past) will be critical.

If Wighton is going to make it at 5/8th, he's going to need more time to think under pressure. Titans would have seen how panicked he was against the Doggies and will look to do the same. Williams seemed to do that for him, whereas Sezer was concentrating on his own game knowing he is under pressure to deliver the goods.

Ricky has a lot of love for Luke Bateman as well. So, even though Bateman is one dimensional in attack, he'll probably get a spot on the bench based on his trial efforts.

As for John Bateman, jeez. He was interviewed on fan day saying he wanted to play in the middle. Unfortunately for him, Sammy was walking around in the background with his shirt off and he looked absolutely ripped in comparison. I'd put him into the 2nd row and Whitehead at lock where he was a stand out last season. There's not much difference between centre and 2nd row, so Bateman will be okay there in attack.

Williams must have realised he can't expect to play NRL and be tossed around in defence. He's done something about it during the off-season. I like that kind of determination.

Sutton might be struggling with the heat. Luckily, the game starts at 6pm. If he comes off the bench once it gets cooler like I'd have him do, he'll get a chance to show what his wares. I doubt he'll get more than 20 minutes per half. No way will he start the season at Mounties after being brought over from England. He'll get the same chance as Jordan Turner did. Hopefully, he'll realise there's more to winning an NRL spot than just showing up, which I feel was Turner's problem.

My preferred line-up (with what I expect from Ricky in brackets):

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield (Abbey if either 4 or 5 are still injured)
6. Wighton
7. Williams (though Sezer will get first shot and we'll all be calling for his head on a pike by game's end)
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. J. Bateman
12. Tapine
13. Whitehead

14. Sutton
15. Havili
16. Lui
17. Guler (Luke Bateman will sneak in instead)

Extended bench I expect from Ricky:
18. Williams
19. Guler
20. Hunt
21. Horsburgh
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Grün Maschine wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:07 am 1. Nicole
2.Citric
3.Crocker
4.by
5.Midfield
6.eight in
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greeneyed wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:07 am I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
Agree.

He'll start. No doubt about it.

His fitness is a little concerning. A side strain at training.
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Horsburgh has to be there
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-GD- wrote: February 24, 2019, 12:53 pm Horsburgh has to be there
He's been great in both trials, very busy and red hair !!'

He's a must. It's been mentioned before but with Horsburgh, Murchie, Guler, etc I can't see LBateman getting a jersey...

Horsburgh has a massive upside..
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1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. J. Bateman

14. Sutton
15. Havili
16. Hunt
17. Guler

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rolhai wrote: February 24, 2019, 1:10 pm 1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. J. Bateman

14. Sutton
15. Havili
16. Hunt
17. Guler

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I like it, plus a few variations. Horsburgh needs to be added. Who does Stick drop ?
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-PJ- wrote:
rolhai wrote: February 24, 2019, 1:10 pm 1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. J. Bateman

14. Sutton
15. Havili
16. Hunt
17. Guler

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I like it, plus a few variations. Horsburgh needs to be added. Who does Stick drop ?
Thanks.

Not sure who I'd drop, initially I thought I had Red in there... Probably Guler.

As long as there is no L. Bateman named I'll live.




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rolhai wrote: February 24, 2019, 1:36 pm
-PJ- wrote:
rolhai wrote: February 24, 2019, 1:10 pm 1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. J. Bateman

14. Sutton
15. Havili
16. Hunt
17. Guler

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I like it, plus a few variations. Horsburgh needs to be added. Who does Stick drop ?
Thanks.

Not sure who I'd drop, initially I thought I had Red in there... Probably Guler.

As long as there is no L. Bateman named I'll live.
Bateman...the L type..is surely gone !'
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-PJ- wrote:
Bateman...the L type..is surely gone !'
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Grün Maschine wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:07 am 1. Nicole
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edwahu wrote:
LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:26 am
greeneyed wrote:I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
I don’t think you can put him straight in. I think he needs to play a couple of games coming of the bench before expecting him to play 60 mins +.


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The guy plays 80 minutes in test matches. Fitness shouldn't be an issue if he has been able to train.
He is coming back from injury, has never played NRL level before let alone in the Raiders structure both defence and attack.

I just think it would make more sense to bring him in through playing the utility role (no. 14) in the aim of having him in the run on team by round 4.


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LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 5:16 pm
edwahu wrote:
LastRaider wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:26 am
greeneyed wrote:I'm going to weep if John Bateman doesn't start. You don't buy an English international to play him off the bench.
I don’t think you can put him straight in. I think he needs to play a couple of games coming of the bench before expecting him to play 60 mins +.


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The guy plays 80 minutes in test matches. Fitness shouldn't be an issue if he has been able to train.
He is coming back from injury, has never played NRL level before let alone in the Raiders structure both defence and attack.

I just think it would make more sense to bring him in through playing the utility role (no. 14) in the aim of having him in the run on team by round 4.


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Previous articles have indicated it was a minor side strain and he would have played if it was season proper.

I see him starting and worst case scenario he has a rest at some point in the match. With our current stocks we have a few players who could play 80minutes and therefore if Bateman needs a break it won't have to much impact on our bench.
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I probably wouldn't pick L Bateman in a full strength side assuming that current form equals current reputations, but I really don't see the reason for the grossly disparaging remarks about him by many here, something of a mob attack almost. Bateman gets picked because he like Fensom and others before him always turn up and do the dirty work, always work through the pain of fatigue to take one more hitup or make one more tackle. It seems to me that to some critics his willingness to turn up for hitups is a cause of much of their criticism. But he turns up when others don't, does the dirty stuff others sometimes neglect.
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Cranky Old Man wrote: February 24, 2019, 8:25 pm I probably wouldn't pick L Bateman in a full strength side assuming that current form equals current reputations, but I really don't see the reason for the grossly disparaging remarks about him by many here, something of a mob attack almost. Bateman gets picked because he like Fensom and others before him always turn up and do the dirty work, always work through the pain of fatigue to take one more hitup or make one more tackle. It seems to me that to some critics his willingness to turn up for hitups is a cause of much of their criticism. But he turns up when others don't, does the dirty stuff others sometimes neglect.
He is nowhere near Fensom's ability or contribution during the latters decent seasons. Fensom was regularly our best player, Bateman has never managed that, and he plays much lower minutes so his ability to play under fatigue can't be compared.

There is a tendency to call players with very limited skill sets that try hard underrated and to praise them for effort, but most of the time they are just mediocre players.
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For me:
1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. Elliot Whitehead
12. John Bateman
13. Joseph Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Emre Guler
16. Royce Hunt
17. Corey Horsburgh

For rick:
1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Michael Oldfield
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Sia Soliola
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Josh Papalii
11. Elliot Whitehead
12. Joseph Tapine
13. John Bateman

14. Siliva Havili
15. Luke Bateman
16. Ryan Sutton
17. Royce Hunt
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Very confident that J. Bateman will start. In his interview on 666 Stick stated that 4 of his starting 13 were injured. Likely Rapana, Leilua, Oldfield and Bateman.

In saying that, I’m curious as to Lui’s spot in the team. Not on any Injury list and was absent from yesterday’s trial. Stick said he’d be carrying his top squad for that trial so maybe there’s something going on we don’t know about.

Reminds me about the time a healthy Edrick Lee sat out our 2017 trial only to be sent to the Sharks a few days later.


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Danaman137 wrote:Very confident that J. Bateman will start. In his interview on 666 Stick stated that 4 of his starting 13 were injured. Likely Rapana, Leilua, Oldfield and Bateman.

In saying that, I’m curious as to Lui’s spot in the team. Not on any Injury list and was absent from yesterday’s trial. Stick said he’d be carrying his top squad for that trial so maybe there’s something going on we don’t know about.

Reminds me about the time a healthy Edrick Lee sat out our 2017 trial only to be sent to the Sharks a few days later.


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It could just be a minutes/fitness thing. Playing 60 minutes for Mounties Vs 20 in a trial would make sense for a front rower.
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Does anyone have any stats from the Mounties game? Did any other Raiders contracted players play? I’d assume the leftovers from the last trial got a run? Starling, Hudson Young, Dan Keir etc?


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Hudson Young was at the Bega trial. No idea on the rest.
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1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havilii
15. Guler
16. Lui/Hunt/Sutton
17. Horsburgh

Not too phased about who gets the last bench spot but I really hope Stick goes with Guler and Horsburgh. Given he usually only plays one of his middles 10-20 minutes I think Horsburgh should play this role due to his aggression and work rate.

Really excited for this match, can't believe it's still 20 days away :( . I think if our pack can match their's then we will have too much class on the edges. Hopefully the spine can silence a few doubters as well.

Let's go.
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