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I suspect Croker is captain six days out of seven - media duties, setting standards off the pitch, etc. - and Hodgson will take over on match days.
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I think this should happen.LastRaider wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 5:32 pm I wouldn’t be surprised now if we see Croker on the wing
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100%. His strength is kick chase and kicking goals. He isn’t a line breaker anymore. John Bateman and Cotric would provide more strike for us nowWiki Special wrote:I think this should happen.LastRaider wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 5:32 pm I wouldn’t be surprised now if we see Croker on the wing
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Hodgson should be captain
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They should name all 18 squad members as cocaptain. Then they can all sook at the ref legitimately.
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Wiki Special wrote:I think this should happen.LastRaider wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 5:32 pm I wouldn’t be surprised now if we see Croker on the wing
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You’re in the darkest spot you have ever been as a Raiders supporter so I wouldn’t expect you to see anything positive in anything at the moment.The Nickman wrote:Yeah good point. Made a huge difference in the second half of the year this year when Croker was out... oh wait.Brew wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 4:30 pm Good decision. Good to have someone in the middle of the field in the refs ear than Jarrod running in from centre only to be ignored.
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Its nice to know that the 2 blokes with the C are now our best on field general AND our best off field ambassador.
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Its good to know you can laugh at yourselfThe Nickman wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 5:43 pm Does anyone else think Josh McCrone would make a good hooker??
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I agree, this does lessen Croker’s captaincy a touch but allowing him to own it from the start like they did today with the announcement negates that a lot. And the benefit for Hodgson when interacting with the refs and team, and for us overall outweighs that.The Nickman wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 4:10 pmI don't think it changes anything at all, and it lessens Croker's captaincy. And like you, I think he's been a fine captain.greeneyed wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 4:04 pm I don't really think it's going to change much on field myself either. Players don't need (c) beside their name to show leadership. But I don't have a problem with co-captains either. I'd have had a real problem if Hodgo had replaced Croker as captain, because Croker has been a fine club captain.
If I were to choose a captain tomorrow from scratch, it would be Hodgson, but Croker is the captain and has done a great job as captain, and did not deserve his captaincy to be lessened.
Here's a few stats for you:
- Croker has a winning record of 53.7% as captain, which is better than our coach
- Hodgson won 2 games and lost 7 as captain last year, so any so-called advantage people seem to have in their heads appears to be non-existent
And don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging Hodgson, in fact I **** LOVE the guy, I just don't think this decision will have the impact on our team that people seem to believe it will. While we continue to be an ill-disciplined, mentally poor, awfully structured team across the park, it doesn't matter a lick of **** who has the (c) next to their name.
It also greatly bolsters Hodgson if Croker goes down with an injury again - which is a fair chance. Not to mention how much pressure it’ll take off Croker and the club if Croker were to come back a yard slower and no longer be a certain starter (consider the criticism he’s copped during his peak) - which is also a fair chance.
Hodgson is also far better with the media. He said more in his seven press conferences - most of which were losses, as you pointed out - than Toots has ever.
But the main thing for me is, as you said Nickman, from scratch Hodgson is the best choice. Easily. I’d argue he’s the most natural captain we’ve had since Daley. And he’s got years to go, barring injury. We shouldn’t not give him the job out of some misplaced loyalty to the guy who got the job when the other main contender was Shaun Fensom who, as much as I love him, was rightly let go during what should be an NRL player’s peak years.
The club showed loyalty by retaining Croker and giving him lead on the story. They’ve struck the perfect balance. This won’t fix those issues you noted but it’s a great move.
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Only other contender. At least, at the time, they got it right.Ruben Daley wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 8:35 pm We shouldn’t not give him the job out of some misplaced loyalty to the guy who got the job when the other main contender was Shaun Fensom who, as much as I love him, was rightly let go during what should be an NRL player’s peak years.
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I love Croker, I looooove Hodgo, they're both good choices as co-captains (in their own ways) but really our defence and our halves are going to have a far bigger influence on our fortunes in 2019
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I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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Not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it's a little bit of assurance that our best player isn't going anywhere soon, and it makes a lot of sense.
On the other hand, I feel for Croker a little bit, and I've always had an irrational dislike for multiple captains in a team.
On the other hand, I feel for Croker a little bit, and I've always had an irrational dislike for multiple captains in a team.
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quality early morning rant from Pigman.Pigman wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 6:03 am I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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Such a non-issue. The worst that can happen is Hodgson revels in the extra responsibility and we get more out of him. I think the 2019 Re-re-re-review will show this to be green on Ricky's traffic light analysis system of things that made us do better football.
And it is also a smart move from Sticky because when we're getting hammered by the officials Hodgson can get in there and have a moan and everyone will blame it on his heritage rather than a just another whinging Raider.
And it is also a smart move from Sticky because when we're getting hammered by the officials Hodgson can get in there and have a moan and everyone will blame it on his heritage rather than a just another whinging Raider.
We continue to **** about with blokes that are part of some fraternity. It's infuriating.
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He's spot on too.Northern Raider wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 7:53 amquality early morning rant from Pigman.Pigman wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 6:03 am I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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IMO Hodgo's own form wasn't great while he was captain. Almost like it was a distraction for him.Woodgers wrote:Such a non-issue. The worst that can happen is Hodgson revels in the extra responsibility and we get more out of him. I think the 2019 Re-re-re-review will show this to be green on Ricky's traffic light analysis system of things that made us do better football.
And it is also a smart move from Sticky because when we're getting hammered by the officials Hodgson can get in there and have a moan and everyone will blame it on his heritage rather than a just another whinging Raider.
Hopefully being given the role now in a shared capacity he'll be better prepared to balance his responsibilities.
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Hodgson will be captain and Croker will stand next to him providing translation services to the referees.
Maybe this is a bit of backup for Croker's knee. I hope it is ok.
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Maybe this is a bit of backup for Croker's knee. I hope it is ok.
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True but don't encourage himThe Nickman wrote:He's spot on too.Northern Raider wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 7:53 amquality early morning rant from Pigman.Pigman wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 6:03 am I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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I think when Croker was given the captaincy full time, it was the same time Sia and Josh Hodgson had just joined the squad so they were the other contenders. I think Croker's time with the Raiders, and captaincy incumbency taking it on during Campo's injuries helped him get the gig full time.Lui_Bon wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 9:53 pmOnly other contender. At least, at the time, they got it right.Ruben Daley wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 8:35 pm We shouldn’t not give him the job out of some misplaced loyalty to the guy who got the job when the other main contender was Shaun Fensom who, as much as I love him, was rightly let go during what should be an NRL player’s peak years.
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I imagine Ricky's half time speeches have a similar vibe to them as thisPigman wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 6:03 am I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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Probably not, but he'd go ok in Les GirlsThe Nickman wrote: ↑December 20, 2018, 5:43 pm Does anyone else think Josh McCrone would make a good hooker??
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Pigman wrote: ↑December 21, 2018, 6:03 am I for one am over the moon
This move will ensure the following things
1) we’ll now start winning close games regularly, obviously our inability to close out games with a lead was down to on field captaincy and with this promotion, we’ll see an end to that, just as we did last year without Croker
b) again as we saw last year without croker I think this move will shore up our influence over the referees. No more 50/50 calls going against us now! That’ll be massive for our on field results
iii) this is obviously just step one in completely removing Croker from the club. First they come for his captaincy, then his centre spot and before long he’ll be out. And not a moment too soon, can’t pass, won’t tackle, **** captain
*) and finally, probably most importantly everyone can finally just shut the **** **** up about this completely and totally irrelevant issue, and then they can shut the **** up again... except me of course, I’ll be never shutting the **** up about any of this and rubbing every idiots nose in it when this solves absolutely none of the “issues” raised by Red Raider and co ...
VERY excited for 2019!
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Merry **** Christmas, *****
Don't say i didnt give you anything.
Don't say i didnt give you anything.
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VIDEO: Canberra Raiders captain Jarrod Croker: 'Hodgo' could captain England one day
Jarrod Croker has spoken of his delight of the decision to appoint Josh Hodgson alongside him as Captain in 2019.
"He's arguably one of the best players in the NRL and he's more then likely to captain England one day so it was an easy decision to have him there with me."
Read more and video: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/12 ... d-one-day/
Video: Hodgson: It's a massive honour: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/12 ... ve-honour/
Jarrod Croker has spoken of his delight of the decision to appoint Josh Hodgson alongside him as Captain in 2019.
"He's arguably one of the best players in the NRL and he's more then likely to captain England one day so it was an easy decision to have him there with me."
Read more and video: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/12 ... d-one-day/
Video: Hodgson: It's a massive honour: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/12 ... ve-honour/