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nacho wrote:Fensom's loss of leg speed a few years ago was the end of his NRL career for mine.
His late offload to no one was another.
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Fensom won’t come back while Ricky is here and Ricky wouldn’t want him back anyway.

I will always love him for those years when he carried a weak pack for us but he wouldn’t come close to my top 17.
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nemesis wrote: November 4, 2018, 6:32 pm
LP Raider wrote: November 4, 2018, 3:02 pm
JezTez1984 wrote: November 4, 2018, 12:16 pm Why we ever let TPJ Go is beyond me, he would of been worth what, 200k when we had him? Now he is close to a million. If it's true Ricky told TPJ that he would never make first grade then I dont know how TPJ is even a remote possibility of coming back.
Ricky is a first class tool, remember the other guy Paul Vaughan.

Why can't we just get a competent coach, this all comes back to Don being the wrong man in the top job.
I think you will find Paul Vaughan was the first class tool.
Seriously if you don't know the story of why he was let go yet you never will.
Probably because a better man manager would have done a better job. I know the story and thats all it is, obviously your in a unique position where you can comment because you know the facts. Unlike me who have just read stories on an internet site.
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JezTez1984 wrote: November 7, 2018, 9:46 am
zim wrote: November 7, 2018, 9:00 am If you don't think he's a better player than anyone in our top 17 you need to pull your head out of meme land.
As you mention the added "circus" would definitely be an issue though.
Have you even watched him play over the last 10 years? Dont you think it's strange that a club that has won about 5 wooden spoons in the last 6 years dont even want him and have released him TWICE???? Dont you think it's strange no other team is willing to go anywhere near him, hence why pre season has already started and he does not even have a contract or even a club to do preseason with??? Dont you think it's strange that no fan on here (or any other fan from any other club) barring yourself would make room to fit someone like Jarryd **** hayne, a proven veteran at failing, into our squad.

Says it all really. If you think hayne would fit into our squad it is in fact you, who needs to get out of meme land.

Now, tell me, where would you play him? Let's break it down.

Fullback? No. I would have wighton, Rapana and even cotric all ahead of him to be our fullback, making hayne our 4th choice fullback.

Wing? No. Rapana and cotric are 2 of the best wingers in the comp, nuff said.

Centre? No. Leilua reigning centre of the year and one of the best centers in the comp since joining the club. Croker, again, nuff said.

Halves? This is the only place he could possibly fit in, but again, it is highly unlikely he would improve the team.

Think about this, the wooden Spooners have Corey norman and mitchell moses in the halves who the eels are desperately trying to offload, and the great man jarryd hayne is not even considered a better option in the halves, at a club like parra...

Hayne has had multiple failed attempts in the halves, again, not even good enough to play in the halves for teams like parra and I honestly dont even think hayne/sezer would be any better than Williams/sezer. Hayne is all hype and the only reason he was ever classed a "superstar" was after one, yes one, outstanding year in 2009. That is all.

So kindly please tell me again how hayne would improve our team in any way, shape or form.

Now, has hayne improved the eels? No. Did hayne improve the titans? No. Both clubs went backwards at an alarming rate with hayne in the team and his toxic behaviour, effort and attitude was widely reported.

Like you even mentioned the circus alone is enough of a reason to not sign hayne, everywhere he goes turns to mud.
I don't think you understand what a meme is. Having him add value to our squad is the opposite of the hayne meme.

What you're talking about is the meme. Hayne is the root of all evil and that somehow one player brings down an entire club. The Titans sure did go gangbusters this year when they stormed into....14th, a big improvement on where they finished in 2017... 14th.
He's been one of the Eels best in the back half of the year, which coincided with less injuries. Hayne in form was not the eels issue. They've got a whole range of issues from poor leadership, bruised egos from their massively under performing halves, a lack of strike power out wide and a lack of talent in the middle. Although Daniel Alvaro had a vastly improved year and if Junior Paulo somehow turns it around they'll have something to build on from the middle.

Hayne/Sezer is a far better defensive pairing than Williams/Sezer. Likewise if anyone is shifted Hayne is far better coming into that position than what we have now. Better than Abbey if Wighton moves to 5/8. A better fullback than Cotric (currently) if Wighton goes to 5/8. A better winger than Oldfield if Cotric goes to fullback. A better centre than Sebastian Kris or Oldfield if one of our centres is moved or goes down.

Playing ability is not the issue. The distraction that he brings could definitely be.
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I'd take hayne as a centre or winger. Clearly he'd be a winger unless there was an injury. He doesn't have the drive or the involvement to be a spine player anymore.

That puts Rapana or Cotric to fullback and Wighton to 6.
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C'mon Hayne was awful this year. He had a 5 minute period in a few games at the end of the season (coinciding with his contract negotiations) which had the commentators moist and then did nothing for the other 75 minutes.

I'd only want him for his ability to undermine a coach.

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Hayne wont even consider a move to Raiders HQ; firstly he doesnt train, wants 800k and comes with baggage. I'd rather throw that money and more at Johnson but even thats unlikely. It is nice to hear a 'marquee' player thrown about though. All i know is if we want to be contenders we cannot go into 2019 with Williams as a half
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Seems like Hayne has something to prove. Something that has worked reasonably well for Ricky.
I actually believe in him still. Free of injuries he would be a great fill in for Rapana, who might be out for six months.
With salary cap relief due to the loss of Rapana, he might be worth a shot.
Although I do admit we would be better off spending our money on an elite half.
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Hayne didn’t play as well this year as the media make out. He isn’t the game-breaker he once was either.

He just looks like a guy who doesn’t really want to play footy. I truly believe he’d do pretty much anything else if it paid as well.

He’s too expensive to take what I think is a low-chance gamble on.
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No Club is going to pay more than $400k for Hayne no matter what his agent says his asking price is.
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gergreg wrote: November 8, 2018, 11:45 am C'mon Hayne was awful this year. He had a 5 minute period in a few games at the end of the season (coinciding with his contract negotiations) which had the commentators moist and then did nothing for the other 75 minutes.

I'd only want him for his ability to undermine a coach.

By george you're a genius.

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Whatever happened to Fatty Taylor?
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Latest Nrl Rumours
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Burgess twins to the Bulldogs?
Hayne to the Bulldogs?
Jennings to the Knights?
Cook to the Eels?

If the burgess's are on the move we should be making the phone call.
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woppadingo wrote: November 8, 2018, 12:03 pm Seems like Hayne has something to prove. Something that has worked reasonably well for Ricky.
I actually believe in him still. Free of injuries he would be a great fill in for Rapana, who might be out for six months.
With salary cap relief due to the loss of Rapana, he might be worth a shot.
Although I do admit we would be better off spending our money on an elite half.
Hayne is the kind of risk Ricky might actually be crazy enough to take. If we end up getting dispensation for Rapa and we could get him for a year, I'd take him.

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because he'd be a Raider.
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I’d 100% Hayne for a year for 500k or so to roll the dice on him at left half.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Te more I think of it, the more Hayne is a Stuart style risk - like BJ and Taylor.
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JezTez1984 wrote: November 8, 2018, 6:04 pm Latest Nrl Rumours
Source: Triple M Facebook


Burgess twins to the Bulldogs?
Hayne to the Bulldogs?
Jennings to the Knights?
Cook to the Eels?

If the burgess's are on the move we should be making the phone call.
Because they're going to be over priced and they're not very good?
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Im all for Hayne, his track record of getting coaches the FOH is rivalled only by Farah
Bring em both in, make sure of it.
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Pigman wrote: November 8, 2018, 7:28 pm
JezTez1984 wrote: November 8, 2018, 6:04 pm Latest Nrl Rumours
Source: Triple M Facebook


Burgess twins to the Bulldogs?
Hayne to the Bulldogs?
Jennings to the Knights?
Cook to the Eels?

If the burgess's are on the move we should be making the phone call.
Because they're going to be over priced and they're not very good?
Bit harsh on George, he goes well.
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Does he though? Look ive been a bit checked out on RL outside our club of late but every time i watch big Georgey go it feels like he's got absolute feet for hands, and is lazy in defence. I cant say ive seen much to enthuse me about him coming in.

He's got a VERY nice looking piece on him though, ill give him that.
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The Burgess boys killed it last yr... Year before they were trash
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Players not good enough for Raiders in 2019 according to the GH: Shaun Johnston, Alex Johnson, Corey Norman, the Burgi, Jarryd Hayne.

I'm hoping by the end of off season I'll be able to pick a 13 better than our actual 13, of players not good enough to be signed by the Raiders. :roflmao
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BadnMean wrote: November 9, 2018, 8:10 am Players not good enough for Raiders in 2019 according to the GH: Shaun Johnston, Alex Johnson, Corey Norman, the Burgi, Jarryd Hayne.

I'm hoping by the end of off season I'll be able to pick a 13 better than our actual 13, of players not good enough to be signed by the Raiders. :roflmao
Probably because all of them are **** and no better than our current players except for shaun johnson??? Its not rocket science :roflmao
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There's a difference between making the current top 17 better and making the current 17 a premiership threat.
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Apparently we got Duffy from Dragons


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Haven't seen much of Duffy, don't know much about him other than he is quick.

Can he defend ?
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Brew wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:05 am Apparently we got Duffy from Dragons


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Dufty? Link please.
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Brew wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:05 am Apparently we got Duffy from Dragons


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greeneyed wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:24 am
Brew wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:05 am Apparently we got Duffy from Dragons


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Dufty? Link please.
There is a facebook link on LU, but even it's dead.

It would fit in with their Hayne interest though.
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Sid wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:17 am Haven't seen much of Duffy, don't know much about him other than he is quick.

Can he defend ?
I'm quick and I can defend but ya don't see Stick ringin me !!!!!
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-PJ- wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:48 am
Sid wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:17 am Haven't seen much of Duffy, don't know much about him other than he is quick.

Can he defend ?
I'm quick and I can defend but ya don't see Stick ringin me !!!!!
have you checked your textas?
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Sid wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:51 am
-PJ- wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:48 am
Sid wrote: November 9, 2018, 9:17 am Haven't seen much of Duffy, don't know much about him other than he is quick.

Can he defend ?
I'm quick and I can defend but ya don't see Stick ringin me !!!!!
have you checked your textas?
Here's an example of how quick I am..

When the Raiders score a try I can pee, hit the fridge and be back before the goal kick..
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JezTez1984 wrote: November 9, 2018, 8:26 am
BadnMean wrote: November 9, 2018, 8:10 am Players not good enough for Raiders in 2019 according to the GH: Shaun Johnston, Alex Johnson, Corey Norman, the Burgi, Jarryd Hayne.

I'm hoping by the end of off season I'll be able to pick a 13 better than our actual 13, of players not good enough to be signed by the Raiders. :roflmao
Probably because all of them are **** and no better than our current players except for shaun johnson??? Its not rocket science :roflmao
Bolded players are all better than players currently in our top 17 or starting 13. You'd really have Lui, Guler, Bateman or Sia in the middle over Burgess? Especially given the makeup of the rest of our props? :roflmao
I've watched both Eng/NZ Tests and he's better than Bateman too. Sutton can't even make that squad but you'd rather have him?

You think Norman and Johnson aren't both better than Sezer and Williams each? :roflmao

Toots, Jack, Williams... I'd play Hayne over them in a heartbeat. Or use him anywhere in our backline/halves and shuffle a player. Bottom line is he'd improve our squad/team.

Johnston, maybe not as cut and dried but he's better than Oldfield and daylight ahead of Abbey. Johnson to FB, Jack to 5/8 is better than what we turned out last year.

But no, our players who have done nothing for 2 years are all world beaters and I wouldn't swap a single on of them. They don't need an environment of bringing in fresh players and constant striving to improve the squad/themselves...
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This thread really is getting ridiculous with people saying who they wouldn't take. Choosing beggars the lot of you.

Need I remind you:

Our first choice fullback is a centre.

Our first choice halfback is park footy player.

Our first choice props are journeymen and kids.

Our first choice winger is out for six months.

But no, the same muppets who've been plodding around for the last two years are the ones to get it done. Lets not add anything :roll:

FWIW I reckon we'll probably add two more names, I'm thinking blokes along the lines of Dufty and Moses. Frankly, I don't care if they are good enough to win us a premiership - all I want are players who are actually going to be putting pressure on the FG starters to play better.

Who is going to be putting pressure on Williams and Sezer? Hingano? Yeah, yeah nah. What about our three-quarter line? Abbey? I think we've seen what he offers and it's best described as David Milne lite.

We're already the dumbest, laziest side in the league and people are cool with our roster the way it is. Jesus wept.
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