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Sid wrote: September 5, 2018, 2:32 pm
RTW wrote: September 5, 2018, 1:16 pm
Sid wrote:Gold Coast seems like one of the most attractive locations to live.. their NRL sides have always struggled.

True but go to the GC and you have a next to 0 chance of winning a comp and slim to play finals.

Go to the Roosters and it is the opposite. Add to that on the coast the extra dollars you earn will go into buying a house at the Roosters your wife’s brother gets given a house and you get to live in it.
Yep, if the location alone were such a drawcard Gold Coast would be able to draw the best players to win comps. and play finals.. Gold Coast does have the best beaches in Australia after all.

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If you think the GC has the countries best beaches you need to get out more. Well known is not ‘best’
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sprintman wrote: September 5, 2018, 2:37 pm
Sid wrote: September 5, 2018, 2:32 pm
RTW wrote: September 5, 2018, 1:16 pm
Sid wrote:Gold Coast seems like one of the most attractive locations to live.. their NRL sides have always struggled.

True but go to the GC and you have a next to 0 chance of winning a comp and slim to play finals.

Go to the Roosters and it is the opposite. Add to that on the coast the extra dollars you earn will go into buying a house at the Roosters your wife’s brother gets given a house and you get to live in it.
Yep, if the location alone were such a drawcard Gold Coast would be able to draw the best players to win comps. and play finals.. Gold Coast does have the best beaches in Australia after all.

$$$ + Location + more $$$ = Players to win you premierships..
If you think the GC has the countries best beaches you need to get out more. Well known is not ‘best’
Fine *best and/or most well known beaches from NRL team locations
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Matt wrote: September 5, 2018, 11:55 am James Hooper says Norman still being shopped, but there are no takers. SURELY... SURELY... at some point a low ball bid will get a signature. I think we should be pursuing this.

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Nobody wants him because he's 28 years old, never played rep football and never strung together a full season of quality football. He's also not worth much more than half his current price tag.

That's before you weigh up the fact he's a bit of a wanker.
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Green eyed Mick wrote: September 5, 2018, 4:39 pm

That's before you weigh up the fact he's a bit of a wanker.
I would take a player who is a bit of a wanker at this stage if it would win us a few more games

He wouldn't be the only one we have
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7 news reporting TPJ will stay in Brisbane
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Not only that, in an on camera interview he explains Ricky Stuart telling him he’d never make it in the NRL prompted him to call Wayne and sign with the Broncos.

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Ricky must be blind. It will go down as one of the worst calls on talent in League history.
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Jesus that's some gross incompetence if true.
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Beejay wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:18 pm Not only that, in an on camera interview he explains Ricky Stuart telling him he’d never make it in the NRL prompted him to call Wayne and sign with the Broncos.

Tough scene
Video report: https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/statu ... 7363221504

The bottom line is it all comes down to dollars. He approached the Raiders for a return... and the Knights... but they money clearly wasn't there for him in Canberra (sadly).
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Stuart thought TPJ would never make it?
haha hoooo boy...
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To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
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To be fair to Ricky Stuart, TPJ has a big ego, and was reportedly not putting in the work required at the Raiders to make it.

Plus, the idea that this is about loyalty to the Broncos... not really. The dollars are the key.
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If it was $ he’d be at the Knights next year let’s be honest.

Clearly says in interview he looked around when speculation about Wayne not being there was a thing as he “wouldn’t be at Brisbane if it wasn’t for Bennett”.
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greeneyed wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:51 pm To be fair to Ricky Stuart, TPJ has a big ego, and was reportedly not putting in the work required at the Raiders to make it.

Plus, the idea that this is about loyalty to the Broncos... not really. The dollars are the key.
Apparently it was his attitude to defence (from the mouth of TPJ)

Oh the irony
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Beejay wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:55 pm
greeneyed wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:51 pm To be fair to Ricky Stuart, TPJ has a big ego, and was reportedly not putting in the work required at the Raiders to make it.

Plus, the idea that this is about loyalty to the Broncos... not really. The dollars are the key.
Apparently it was his attitude to defence (from the mouth of TPJ)

Oh the irony
The whole thing just makes me sick. Thanks Supercoach. By the way does anyone know who the defence coach will be next year? Plus watching Matt Johns on 360 tonight explaining halves play, I really did wonder just what Brett White is bringing to the table there... "Josh just give it to the front rowers, they'll get over the line - otherwise just let the backs make it up - what? We have halves? What are they for?"
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BJ wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:47 pm To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
Which is an awful and archaic way of motivating someone. It might have worked on the 80s but modern players are a different breed.
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Beejay wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:55 pm
greeneyed wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:51 pm To be fair to Ricky Stuart, TPJ has a big ego, and was reportedly not putting in the work required at the Raiders to make it.

Plus, the idea that this is about loyalty to the Broncos... not really. The dollars are the key.
Apparently it was his attitude to defence (from the mouth of TPJ)

Oh the irony
I’m sure Ricky only wanted to put a rocket under him but geez that hurts.

That news clip is pretty savvy PR for a guy with no manager, particularly as there’s clearly some spin on the story.
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greeneyed wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:51 pm To be fair to Ricky Stuart, TPJ has a big ego, and was reportedly not putting in the work required at the Raiders to make it.

Plus, the idea that this is about loyalty to the Broncos... not really. The dollars are the key.
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Lui_Bon wrote:The whole thing just makes me sick. Thanks Supercoach. By the way does anyone know who the defence coach will be next year? Plus watching Matt Johns on 360 tonight explaining halves play, I really did wonder just what Brett White is bringing to the table there... "Josh just give it to the front rowers, they'll get over the line - otherwise just let the backs make it up - what? We have halves? What are they for?"
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edwahu wrote: September 5, 2018, 9:06 pm
BJ wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:47 pm To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
Which is an awful and archaic way of motivating someone. It might have worked on the 80s but modern players are a different breed.
Ricky knows how to motivate players. Look at the work he did with Paulo and Boyd these last two seasons.
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Green eyed Mick wrote: September 5, 2018, 4:39 pm
Matt wrote: September 5, 2018, 11:55 am James Hooper says Norman still being shopped, but there are no takers. SURELY... SURELY... at some point a low ball bid will get a signature. I think we should be pursuing this.

Listen here: https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/leag ... ped!697035

Read more: https://www.zerotackle.com/norman-being ... NRL+Gossip
Nobody wants him because he's 28 years old, never played rep football and never strung together a full season of quality football. He's also not worth much more than half his current price tag.

That's before you weigh up the fact he's a bit of a wanker.
The Club can not sign anymore players for 2019. D Furner came out and said so we are at cap limit.
All the Club to sign was two Wigan SL players a back and a forward. The back is an English International. We can not buy any halves even after we lost Boyd, Austin, Paulo and others .... why you ask ? Well it’s bevause we over pay some of our players like Wigjton app on 700k.
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We won’t and can’t win the Comp with Williams Sezer combo.
Stuart tried Wighton at half and it was a complete failure. Himgano is not a half and I doubt Stuart will blood any Mounties halves bevause he hasn’t done that since he has been here. Hodgson must stay at Hooker. We apparently lost our two young halves from Mounties to other NRL Clubs already.
Another great example for Club and team management.
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InFernos_Raiders wrote: September 6, 2018, 1:23 amWe apparently lost our two young halves from Mounties to other NRL Clubs already. Another great example for Club and team management.
First I’ve heard of it. Who?
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"Wouldn't fit into our plan defensively".

Sorry which plan was that?
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TPJ in talks with 5 clubs, sounds like ayoub working hard to keep a client

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edwahu wrote: September 5, 2018, 9:06 pm
BJ wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:47 pm To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
Which is an awful and archaic way of motivating someone. It might have worked on the 80s but modern players are a different breed.
Correct.
Negative reinforcement isnt the only way to motivate athletes.

Anyone who saw TPJ play footy at U20's and didnt immediately think "holy ****, that kid can play" is probably not someone i want in charge of the direction of the squad. It was clear from his first game in that grade he was going to have a very long and successful career.
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Pigman wrote: September 6, 2018, 7:45 am
edwahu wrote: September 5, 2018, 9:06 pm
BJ wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:47 pm To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
Which is an awful and archaic way of motivating someone. It might have worked on the 80s but modern players are a different breed.
Correct.
Negative reinforcement isnt the only way to motivate athletes.

Anyone who saw TPJ play footy at U20's and didnt immediately think "holy ****, that kid can play" is probably not someone i want in charge of the direction of the squad. It was clear from his first game in that grade he was going to have a very long and successful career.
^^^this
I mean, when was the last time you saw a forward go through nearly an entire game without being tackled? Not because he didn't run, but because he offloaded every single tackle.
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nemesis wrote: September 3, 2018, 6:53 pm
Supershamrock wrote: September 3, 2018, 5:39 pm It's going to absolutely suck next season when our ex 'premier' props play better against us than they ever did for us, just to prove a point.
That's a stupid thought because if they proved the point they were worth it while asking for it they would still be in a raiders jersey
Catching up from a few days back...

Didn't mean that they would prove the point they're worth it and from my comment 'play better against us' I intended to highlight it would be a flash in the pan display then slide back to mediocrity in not so many words. Was just commenting, like many players, they will probably grow an extra leg against their former team.
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Frankly I suspect those two will perform as expected. I.e. they'll likely slide into oblivion. We're better off without them.
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Pigman wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:34 pm Stuart thought TPJ would never make it?
haha hoooo boy...
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What an absolute basket case of a club.
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I didn't think TPJ would make it in the NRL. I had seen hundreds of players like him before, absolute whizkids at levels where natural talents were all that was required but without the drive and absolutely insane level of self centered dedication to fitness and health including but not limited to diet and rehabilitation.
Stuart was always aware of his level of talent. He had spoken about it to me and others on occasions. But he was aware of and frustrated about the lack of effort that TPJ continued to display. Stuart was of the opinion that unless TPJ pulled up his socks soon, the opportunities open to him would soon dissipate and he would be lost to the game. Stuart was strongly of the opinion that the loss of TPJ would be a loss to the NRL as well as to the Raiders.
TPJ was given a chance to turn his life around at Brisbane by Bennett, and has done so. Well done him. But to imply that he was not given the chance at the Raiders, nor given the specialist help and encouragement of the entire organisation is dishonest and reflects poorly on him.
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Matt wrote: September 6, 2018, 8:45 am
Pigman wrote: September 6, 2018, 7:45 am
edwahu wrote: September 5, 2018, 9:06 pm
BJ wrote: September 5, 2018, 8:47 pm To be fair on Stuart he will tell a player they won’t make it in the NRL to motivate them to work harder and dedicate themselves more to the game.
Which is an awful and archaic way of motivating someone. It might have worked on the 80s but modern players are a different breed.
Correct.
Negative reinforcement isnt the only way to motivate athletes.

Anyone who saw TPJ play footy at U20's and didnt immediately think "holy ****, that kid can play" is probably not someone i want in charge of the direction of the squad. It was clear from his first game in that grade he was going to have a very long and successful career.
^^^this
I mean, when was the last time you saw a forward go through nearly an entire game without being tackled? Not because he didn't run, but because he offloaded every single tackle.
I'd argue that Sticky's negative reinforcement method of motivation worked in this case. Talented juniors often fail to make the transition to the top level. TPJ on the other hand is now an outstanding NRL forward.


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Cranky Old Man wrote:I didn't think TPJ would make it in the NRL. I had seen hundreds of players like him before, absolute whizkids at levels where natural talents were all that was required but without the drive and absolutely insane level of self centered dedication to fitness and health including but not limited to diet and rehabilitation.
Stuart was always aware of his level of talent. He had spoken about it to me and others on occasions. But he was aware of and frustrated about the lack of effort that TPJ continued to display. Stuart was of the opinion that unless TPJ pulled up his socks soon, the opportunities open to him would soon dissipate and he would be lost to the game. Stuart was strongly of the opinion that the loss of TPJ would be a loss to the NRL as well as to the Raiders.
TPJ was given a chance to turn his life around at Brisbane by Bennett, and has done so. Well done him. But to imply that he was not given the chance at the Raiders, nor given the specialist help and encouragement of the entire organisation is dishonest and reflects poorly on him.
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