Preparing for 2019
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While I'm not optimistic for next year Austin leaving will definitely be a boost. You can just see his poor attitude out there is really infecting the team.
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Re: Preparing for 2019
Assuming no one is playing out of position and we don't sign anyone else I'm guessing this will be Round 1 2019.
1 Jack Wighton
2 Nick Cotric
3 Jarrod Croker
4 Joseph Leilua
5 Jordan Rapana
6 Aidan Sezer
7 Ata Hingano
8 Ryan Sutton
9 Josh Hodgson
10 Dunamis Lui
11 Joseph Tapine
12 Elliott Whitehead
13 Josh Papalii
14 Siliva Havili
15 Iosia Soliola
16 John Bateman
17 Liam Knight
1 Jack Wighton
2 Nick Cotric
3 Jarrod Croker
4 Joseph Leilua
5 Jordan Rapana
6 Aidan Sezer
7 Ata Hingano
8 Ryan Sutton
9 Josh Hodgson
10 Dunamis Lui
11 Joseph Tapine
12 Elliott Whitehead
13 Josh Papalii
14 Siliva Havili
15 Iosia Soliola
16 John Bateman
17 Liam Knight
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Re: Preparing for 2019
Stuart has lost the plot if Hingano starts over Williams.
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Sezar and Williams both offer the same though. Hingano does offer a bit of zipSeiffert82 wrote:Stuart has lost the plot if Hingano starts over Williams.
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imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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Ricky spent the whole year training Hingano to be a dummy half, so it makes sense he would pick him at 5/8th.
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It's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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Nice to see Ricky helping the Eels and Titans for 2019 but giving plenty of minutes to Paulo and Boyd.
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cotric offers more on the wing than at fullbackgreeneyed wrote:It's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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The trouble is... I don't believe we can depend on a Sezer/Williams halves pairing.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:32 pmcotric offers more on the wing than at fullbackgreeneyed wrote:It's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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If it was me I'd be giving them KFC vouchers, but what would I knowSchifty wrote:Nice to see Ricky helping the Eels and Titans for 2019 but giving plenty of minutes to Paulo and Boyd.
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I'd be taking advantage of our sponsors and making them have a Nugget eating competition each training session.
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Wighton is our best fullback.
John Bateman offers us the mongrel in defence we haven't seen since Nev Costigan or Josh Miller. I hope he starts at lock.
If Cotric moves I hope it's only into the centres to replace numbnuts Leilua.
John Bateman offers us the mongrel in defence we haven't seen since Nev Costigan or Josh Miller. I hope he starts at lock.
If Cotric moves I hope it's only into the centres to replace numbnuts Leilua.
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I’ll get crucified for this so I’ll just lay down the cross and nails.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:31 pmIt's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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Our only positive as an individual in attacking structures this entire season has been Wighton’s play from fullback. He was not far short of sensational all year as a second and third receiver. As soon as he was gone we predictably lost all connection from mid field to the backline. For us to have the highest paid (and best attacking wise) three quarters in the competition with Cotric at fullback would be absolute suicide. (So we know Stuart will do it)
You can keep a mediocre half there, or use Whitehead at 6 who struggled in attack for the most part in an edge. The option (which won’t be considered) I’d consider is Croker to 6 or left half. It’s a more assured body than Williams/Hingano, it gets Cotric to centre and we deadset have not had any footy smarts there for 24 months so we’re not losing anything. It sounds absolutely stupid but if we don’t recruit anyone I’m not convinced it isn’t the worst option. If you have Hodgson, Sezer and Wighton there, Whitehead ball playing at lock I think it could work.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Unless some miracle signing shows up soon, I can't imagine what else Stuart will do.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:31 pmIt's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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I don't disagree with it, either. If we could just stem some of the points leakage through the halves, we'd win games.
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If we think Wighton will be 6, Stuart will be looking deeper than us and will likely spend the offseason converting Havilli to play 6 or something.
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I do like the idea of Wighton at 6 purely for his defence. If he does end up there he needs to be a run first pass second player, the 3rd kicking option and not the organiser.
I’m not yet convinced Cotric is the answer at fullback. I believe Jack is much better there. I agree that we get more from Cotric on the wing.
I also agree that Sam Williams isn’t our problem. A bloke on a small wage doing a solid job.
In saying that my team for 2019 would be:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezer
7. Williams
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman
14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Knight / Murchie
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I’m not yet convinced Cotric is the answer at fullback. I believe Jack is much better there. I agree that we get more from Cotric on the wing.
I also agree that Sam Williams isn’t our problem. A bloke on a small wage doing a solid job.
In saying that my team for 2019 would be:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezer
7. Williams
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman
14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Knight / Murchie
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2020: 1. Nicol-Klokstad 2. Cotric 3. Croker (c) 4 Leilua 5. Scott 6. Wighton 7. G. Williams 8. Papalii 9. Hodgson (c) 10. Sutton 11. J. Bateman 12. Whitehead 13. Tapine ----
14. Simmonson 15. Soliola 16. Guler 17. Horsburgh
14. Simmonson 15. Soliola 16. Guler 17. Horsburgh
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The fact is makes sense and there is strong consensus means there is a good chance this won't happen, possibly out of spite as well.T_R wrote: ↑August 14, 2018, 10:45 amUnless some miracle signing shows up soon, I can't imagine what else Stuart will do.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:31 pmIt's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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I don't disagree with it, either. If we could just stem some of the points leakage through the halves, we'd win games.
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I'll be shocked if our halves aren't Sezer and WilliamsSchifty wrote: ↑August 14, 2018, 2:29 pmThe fact is makes sense and there is strong consensus means there is a good chance this won't happen, possibly out of spite as well.T_R wrote: ↑August 14, 2018, 10:45 amUnless some miracle signing shows up soon, I can't imagine what else Stuart will do.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:31 pmIt's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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I don't disagree with it, either. If we could just stem some of the points leakage through the halves, we'd win games.
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I guess it's hard to judge Cotric at fullback without a quality left edge to take some load, maybe with wighton at 6 and Croker back it changes the necessity of cotric to be the gotoDusty wrote:I do like the idea of Wighton at 6 purely for his defence. If he does end up there he needs to be a run first pass second player, the 3rd kicking option and not the organiser.
I’m not yet convinced Cotric is the answer at fullback. I believe Jack is much better there. I agree that we get more from Cotric on the wing.
I also agree that Sam Williams isn’t our problem. A bloke on a small wage doing a solid job.
In saying that my team for 2019 would be:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezer
7. Williams
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman
14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Knight / Murchie
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Todd is coming home, why do you think he returned to Sydney for personal reasons to suddenly end up in the UK being coached by Tim Sheens.
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because he thought he'd get a go back in the nrl but after being clearly blocked he went to earn a livingBrew wrote:Todd is coming home, why do you think he returned to Sydney for personal reasons to suddenly end up in the UK being coached by Tim Sheens.
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Come on guys, there will be no real change to the team. It will be a repeat of this year, which is a repeat of the 2017 side really.
It will be the predictable following:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezar
7. Williams
8. Sololia
9. Hodgson
10. Lui
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papilii
14. Hingano
15. Havilii
16. L.Bateman
17. J Bateman
You all know it will be
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It will be the predictable following:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezar
7. Williams
8. Sololia
9. Hodgson
10. Lui
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Papilii
14. Hingano
15. Havilii
16. L.Bateman
17. J Bateman
You all know it will be
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And yep there will be stages in our games that Sezar, Williams, Hodgson, Hingano and Havilii will all be on the field together at the same time
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He's never picking a bench that looks like that.
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Making a point of how things will be the same then picking a bench that is nothing like 2017 or 2018 in structure, philosophy or personnel
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Making a point of how things will be the same then picking a bench that is nothing like 2017 or 2018 in structure, philosophy or personnel
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Yeah, I'd be quite happy with that starting side...or perhaps Cotric to 4 with Oldfield on the wing.Dusty wrote: ↑August 14, 2018, 2:07 pm I do like the idea of Wighton at 6 purely for his defence. If he does end up there he needs to be a run first pass second player, the 3rd kicking option and not the organiser.
I’m not yet convinced Cotric is the answer at fullback. I believe Jack is much better there. I agree that we get more from Cotric on the wing.
I also agree that Sam Williams isn’t our problem. A bloke on a small wage doing a solid job.
In saying that my team for 2019 would be:
1. Wighton
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Sezer
7. Williams
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman
14. Havili
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Knight / Murchie
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With the bench, I'd be happy with
14. Baptiste
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Havili
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Sezer and Williams will be our halves next season.
Ricky knows football better than anyone. And if he says they are our best halves, then they are. End of story. His success and track record of rebuilding clubs to premiership success shows that you do not question his motives. The only people that stand in his way from 16 straight premierships are the refs.
And those pricks don't know what they are doing.
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Ricky knows football better than anyone. And if he says they are our best halves, then they are. End of story. His success and track record of rebuilding clubs to premiership success shows that you do not question his motives. The only people that stand in his way from 16 straight premierships are the refs.
And those pricks don't know what they are doing.
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It's what i always say, if you have halves who can defend their position, you can be a solid team. The teams that stink in this league are the ones with multiple pressure points on the edgeT_R wrote: ↑August 14, 2018, 10:45 amUnless some miracle signing shows up soon, I can't imagine what else Stuart will do.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:31 pmIt's not contentious. Jack Wighton will be starting No. 6 next year. There is no other real option.bonehead wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 9:26 pm imo only.
j Bateman will be a starter
Sutton isn't a starter yet
6 is our most contentious Jersey.
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I don't disagree with it, either. If we could just stem some of the points leakage through the halves, we'd win games.
If you can defend at the 11-12 3-4 and 6-7. You're going to be a top 8 team.
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Rapana is this club’s best fullback
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williams has been pretty good since hes been back
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A lot of people seem to think that moving Wighton to 6 automatically solves a defensive issue on the right edge. Sure he can tackle better then any other half we have had in a while but defending 3 in is a skill set in itself.
* I’m not saying it won’t work but it doesn’t guarantee a fix.
* I’m not saying it won’t work but it doesn’t guarantee a fix.
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Yeah there's no perfect solution with the current roster. Every fix presents it's own set of issues.
Even getting rid of the 2 fat forwards will have some negatives but you'd hope the positive increase in lateral movement will far outweigh the negative issues that come with a smaller pack. We lose that occasional game where Boyd or Paulo could just dominate but we hopefully get some defensive consistency.
Jack being moved, likewise, he's a great defender but we won't really know until he spends a good 5 rounds there as it's the decision making that really makes or breaks the position. You can't see him being a worse decision maker than Austin and he's definitely better 1 on 1 than Williams. He's also got the acceleration and motivation to help cover mistakes.
Even getting rid of the 2 fat forwards will have some negatives but you'd hope the positive increase in lateral movement will far outweigh the negative issues that come with a smaller pack. We lose that occasional game where Boyd or Paulo could just dominate but we hopefully get some defensive consistency.
Jack being moved, likewise, he's a great defender but we won't really know until he spends a good 5 rounds there as it's the decision making that really makes or breaks the position. You can't see him being a worse decision maker than Austin and he's definitely better 1 on 1 than Williams. He's also got the acceleration and motivation to help cover mistakes.
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Ignoring the position argument there's still a lot of signing/re-signing to be announced to fill out the top 30 squad for next year. At the moment:
Raiders
1. Jack Wighton
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Aidan Sezer
7. Sam Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Sia Soliola
11. John Bateman
12. Joseph Tapine
13. Elliot Whitehead
14. Siliva Havili
15. Jack Murchie
16. Emre Guler
17. Dunamis Lui
Mounties
1. Brad Abbey
2. Michael Oldfield
3. Seb Kris (not signed yet)
4.
5.
6. Ata Hingano
7. Brendan O'Hagan (not signed yet)
8. Liam Knight
9.
10. Ryan Sutton
11.
12.
13. Luke Bateman
14.
15. Corey Horsburgh (not signed yet)
16. Setefano Hala (not signed yet)
17.
Even with what's been guessed we are still 3 players off. If you look at every position that hasn't actually been signed it's 7 still to sign.
Raiders
1. Jack Wighton
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Aidan Sezer
7. Sam Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Sia Soliola
11. John Bateman
12. Joseph Tapine
13. Elliot Whitehead
14. Siliva Havili
15. Jack Murchie
16. Emre Guler
17. Dunamis Lui
Mounties
1. Brad Abbey
2. Michael Oldfield
3. Seb Kris (not signed yet)
4.
5.
6. Ata Hingano
7. Brendan O'Hagan (not signed yet)
8. Liam Knight
9.
10. Ryan Sutton
11.
12.
13. Luke Bateman
14.
15. Corey Horsburgh (not signed yet)
16. Setefano Hala (not signed yet)
17.
Even with what's been guessed we are still 3 players off. If you look at every position that hasn't actually been signed it's 7 still to sign.
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