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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by dubby » May 9, 2018, 12:14 pm

Nickman, read the bible. It's there.



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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:18 pm

dubby wrote:
May 9, 2018, 12:14 pm
Nickman, read the bible. It's there.



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So is a bunch of other crazy ****, like:

OLD TESTAMENT:

Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Judges 11:29-40 - human sacrifice
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not **** young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:13 - killing of gays
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden

NEW TESTAMENT (written thousands of years after the OLD testament):

Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies

You can't just pick and choose bits to justify your bigoted beliefs and then ignore all of the stuff I just mentioned (and so much more). You just can't, and I fail to believe that you're not intelligent enough to know that.
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by dubby » May 9, 2018, 12:19 pm

For this reason God gave them [Gentiles] up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
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Post by dubby » May 9, 2018, 12:19 pm

Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers—none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.
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Post by Sossman » May 9, 2018, 12:21 pm

dubby wrote:Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers—none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:25 pm

Mark 10:11–12 reads:
“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.”

So basically if you get divorced you're going to hell? Seeing as in your previous post adulterers do to hell??
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:26 pm

1 Corinthians 14:34 reads:
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.”

So are women allowed to speak in your church, dubs??
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:28 pm

Exodus 31:14–15 reads:
“Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

So are we killing people who work on Saturday or Sunday, dubs?? I forget which one is which. Fortunately I don't work on either.
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by Sossman » May 9, 2018, 12:28 pm

This thread is basically a really salty version of John Safran v God.

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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:30 pm

Deuteronomy 22: 20-21 reads:
"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you."

So I guess we're killing girls who have sex out of marriage now too. And by stoning as well. It's in the Bible after all, must be true.
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by Schifty » May 9, 2018, 12:30 pm

Sossman wrote:This thread is basically a really salty version of John Safran v God.

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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by Schifty » May 9, 2018, 12:31 pm

The Nickman wrote:Mark 10:11–12 reads:
“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.”

So basically if you get divorced you're going to hell? Seeing as in your previous post adulterers do to hell??
Wow Mark sounds like a Folau level ****

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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:32 pm

Timothy 2:11 reads:
"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent."

Keen to know your thoughts on this one, dubs. Seeing as you believe people who engage in homosexual sex are going to hell, what are your thoughts on women teachers, police officers or politicians? I reckon you'd be dead against them!
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:34 pm

Mark 12:19 reads:
"Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother."

So what do you say, dubs? If you pass away, you're more than fine with your brother "taking" your wife? It's God's word after all!
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:36 pm

I'll stop for now dubs while you formulate your responses. Keen to hear your answers to each of these points though, seeing as you're so adamant that homosexuals who have sex are going to hell because it's "in the Bible".

No picking or choosing either, pal. Your whole argument falls down when you do that.

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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by dubby » May 9, 2018, 12:51 pm

Ok, so another example of one taking scripture out of context to prove a point.

I've answered your concerns about honosexuality. As exciting as it is too engage exegetical study with you, you will continue to pluck random scripture to argue about.

Ironically, this is what manbush does, and you've laughed at him over it
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Post by Sossman » May 9, 2018, 12:52 pm

dubby wrote:Ok, so another example of one taking scripture out of context to prove a point.

I've answered your concerns about honosexuality. As exciting as it is too engage exegetical study with you, you will continue to pluck random scripture to argue about.

Ironically, this is what manbush does, and you've laughed at him over it
If he was the Burning Manbush you'd listen to everything he said.

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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 12:57 pm

dubby wrote:Ok, so another example of one taking scripture out of context to prove a point.

I've answered your concerns about honosexuality. As exciting as it is too engage exegetical study with you, you will continue to pluck random scripture to argue about.

Ironically, this is what manbush does, and you've laughed at him over it
How is that taking anything out of context?? YOU’RE the one selectively picking passages out of the Bible to justify your disgusting beliefs and then claiming I’m doing the same thing?

This is horrible stuff dubs, and you should be ashamed of yourself
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Post by Schifty » May 9, 2018, 12:58 pm

The Nickman wrote:
May 9, 2018, 12:28 pm
Exodus 31:14–15 reads:
“Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

So are we killing people who work on Saturday or Sunday, dubs?? I forget which one is which. Fortunately I don't work on either.
I definitely recall a few occasions when the Raiders refused to work on Saturday or Sunday.

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Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 1:05 pm

It is just absolutely mind-boggling to me that in the 21st century, a man who is allegedly intelligent, can pick and choose verses out of a 2000 year old book to justify being horrible to minorities, but then chooses to ignore all of the other absolutely bat **** crazy **** that same book says, and THEN accuses ME of taking **** out of context!

Like, you can’t honestly be serious, dubby? You genuinely need help if this is what you honestly believe, that verses that back up your own discriminatory views are canon, yet all the crazy stuff is just filler material
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Post by Manbush » May 9, 2018, 1:36 pm

In regards to heaven and hell ones actions are irrelevant as it’s purely reward/punishment based on belief and not morality or actions. The worst mass murdering child rapist will be rewarded simply by repenting on his deathbed while the most kind charitable person to ever exist will be punished for simply not believing.

People claim the OT is the most abhorrent Abrahamic book and with all the genocides and other disgusting morality I can understand why but the whole heaven and hell thing is one of the reasons I find the NT even worse. It’s the most immoral and evil belief taught by any religion, infinite punishment simply for not believing and people accept this as a good thing and teach it to children.
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Post by Manbush » May 9, 2018, 1:46 pm

dubby wrote:
May 9, 2018, 12:51 pm
Ok, so another example of one taking scripture out of context to prove a point.

I've answered your concerns about honosexuality. As exciting as it is too engage exegetical study with you, you will continue to pluck random scripture to argue about.

Ironically, this is what manbush does, and you've laughed at him over it
Dubby Christians cherry the Bible more than anyone and for that we should be grateful because if you followed all of it you’d be in gaol for multiple life sentences.

Undoubtedly it does contain some good morality but it also contains a lot of disgusting morality as well, highlighting those isn’t taking it out of context anymore than someone just mentioning the good, it’s looking at the whole picture since the pretty fluffy stuff is generally what people (including Christians) know. Slavery is a prime example it’s clear from previously you haven’t read or taken notice of those bits by the way you’ve tried to explain it away as indentured servitude despite the passages being crystal clear it was slavery as we know it.
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Post by The Nickman » May 9, 2018, 1:50 pm

The absolute hypocrisy shown by dubby on this topic is completely outrageous. He essentially chooses the parts of the Bible that justify his own form of discrimination and then ****-**** the other bits as "cherry picking". I'm genuinely astounded by this.
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The Nickman wrote:
May 9, 2018, 1:50 pm
The absolute hypocrisy shown by dubby on this topic is completely outrageous. He essentially chooses the parts of the Bible that justify his own form of discrimination and then ****-**** the other bits as "cherry picking". I'm genuinely astounded by this.
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Post by Manbush » May 9, 2018, 2:22 pm

simo wrote:
May 9, 2018, 1:59 pm
The Nickman wrote:
May 9, 2018, 1:50 pm
The absolute hypocrisy shown by dubby on this topic is completely outrageous. He essentially chooses the parts of the Bible that justify his own form of discrimination and then ****-**** the other bits as "cherry picking". I'm genuinely astounded by this.
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Schifty wrote:
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Simo is back!
Geez what has the GH done to deserve this, first Sossman then you and now Simo, must be punishment for some mighty bad karma, I blame TR!
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Manbush wrote:
Schifty wrote:
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Simo is back!
Geez what has the GH done to deserve this, first Sossman then you and now Simo, must be punishment for some mighty bad karma, I blame TR!
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Sossman wrote:
Manbush wrote:
Schifty wrote:
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Simo is back!
Geez what has the GH done to deserve this, first Sossman then you and now Simo, must be punishment for some mighty bad karma, I blame TR!
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Manbush wrote:
Schifty wrote:
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Simo is back!
Geez what has the GH done to deserve this, first Sossman then you and now Simo, must be punishment for some mighty bad karma, I blame TR!
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Re: The Religion Thread

Post by dubby » May 9, 2018, 4:16 pm

Trying to reason with you online in this argument would be a great example of inflicting pain on myself.

There are times when you're better off trying to discuss things in person. This is one of those times.
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Post by Schifty » May 9, 2018, 4:20 pm

T_R wrote:
Manbush wrote:
Schifty wrote:
May 9, 2018, 2:09 pm
Simo is back!
Geez what has the GH done to deserve this, first Sossman then you and now Simo, must be punishment for some mighty bad karma, I blame TR!
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Well you're definitely responsible for my return and I then went on to get Sossman back so it actually is your fault....

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Post by Sossman » May 9, 2018, 4:26 pm

Absolutely 100% Schiftys fault I'm back.



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Post by Schifty » May 9, 2018, 4:42 pm

Clearly TR is the destroyer of forums.

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Post by Sossman » May 9, 2018, 4:46 pm

It's all a part of a coastal QLD false flag conspiracy involving T_R to bring down the globalist mods and the Furners and Ricky Stuart and dubby.

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