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gangrenous wrote:Call it a bump or a shoulder charge, it's illegal and put Edwards (and Jack!) at unnecessary risk of injury. That's why the NRL are trying to eliminate those tackles.

If someone put that hit on a Raider and got nothing I'd be ropable.
If Ennis didn't get off I don't think anyone would be complaining (except at the grading).
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Manbush wrote:
gangrenous wrote:Call it a bump or a shoulder charge, it's illegal and put Edwards (and Jack!) at unnecessary risk of injury. That's why the NRL are trying to eliminate those tackles.

If someone put that hit on a Raider and got nothing I'd be ropable.
If Ennis didn't get off I don't think anyone would be complaining (except at the grading).
Because we probably wouldn't be privy to the criteria they use to determine a "shoulder charge"
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That's exactly what I've been saying Bushy!
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Manbush wrote:
gangrenous wrote:Call it a bump or a shoulder charge, it's illegal and put Edwards (and Jack!) at unnecessary risk of injury. That's why the NRL are trying to eliminate those tackles.

If someone put that hit on a Raider and got nothing I'd be ropable.
If Ennis didn't get off I don't think anyone would be complaining (except at the grading).
But he did, so let's complain - it's warranted.
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Christmas Ape wrote:Anyone remember this: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... fd91fe1aec

In the article, he admits to getting the grading of Tapau's shot on Bird wrong and also applauds Koroibete's aggressiveness and willingness to stop a try when he performs the clearest shoulder charge you'll ever see. Not to mention exonerating Nathan Brown for missing that lad's nuts by an inch.

This is really blowing my tiny little mind. I've spent all day in utter disbelief.

For what it's worth, and I've seen all the stills and watched the videos countless times, I can't see where Jack's shoulder comes into contact with Edwards' body at all. Its a god damn head clash for fks sake.

I reckon the sensible outcome should've been (ignoring the ludicrous grading system) -

Ennis - Shoulder charge - 1 week
Jack - Dangerous contact - 1 week

Sorted. That would've saved me from being on the verge of a mild stroke.
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Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
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Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
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Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
gallen was sprouting that crap on the rush hour last night. Biggest grub in the game. This is the same paul gallen whos come out and said to ban writing on armbands after one of his players used his to support a convicted killer. LETS NOT LISTEN TO HIM!
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Too many knocks to the head that guy has had
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I hate Gallen so much. Biggest grub going around.
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simo wrote:
Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
gallen was sprouting that crap on the rush hour last night. Biggest grub in the game. This is the same paul gallen whos come out and said to ban writing on armbands after one of his players used his to support a convicted killer. LETS NOT LISTEN TO HIM!
Plus he's a drug cheat - yeah, **** it, I'm going all GE on the **** now!
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I've never disliked a player as much as Paul Gallen. I find cheering for NSW so challenging with him, Bird and Dugan in the team.
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Professor wrote:
simo wrote:
Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
gallen was sprouting that crap on the rush hour last night. Biggest grub in the game. This is the same paul gallen whos come out and said to ban writing on armbands after one of his players used his to support a convicted killer. LETS NOT LISTEN TO HIM!
Plus he's a drug cheat - yeah, **** it, I'm going all GE on the **** now!
Go all the way mate.

Cronulla shouldn't even be able to field a team, they should've all been banned and the club closed down rabble rabble rabble :rant
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Northern Raider wrote:The MRC has come out publicly and said if there is separation from the body of the upper arm at point of contact then it is not deemed a shoulder charge. No charges therefore to be laid. Jack's upper arm was clearly separated from his body. There is no disputing this. Case closed.
I'm fair dinkum loving the conviction in your arguments on this situation.

As concise as the above above argument is, it's fair dinkum bang on. Jack could just about represent himself, quote your exact post, dropped the **** mic on Beutner's head and walk out with a not guilty.

That is the image I'll have in my head all day. Thanks Prof!
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I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
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Good morning fellow greenhouse members, how are we all feeling this morning? Argh it's gonna be a longggggg day!
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Gals just **** bricks because he knows we will blow them off the park with ease. He knows the only way they will have a chance is if we are missing 2 of our best players, poor bastard. Sounds desperate. off Gallen you grub!
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Kingtoots wrote:Good morning fellow greenhouse members, how are we all feeling this morning?
Like I could vomit into a bag of kittens.

And you?
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AJL wrote:I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
according to gal, ennis was clearly pulling out if the tackle and had no intention to make contact with green
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simo wrote:
AJL wrote:I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
according to gal, ennis was clearly pulling out if the tackle and had no intention to make contact with green
If that's Gal's definition of pulling out, he must have 8 or 9 kids by now.
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Professor wrote:
Kingtoots wrote:Good morning fellow greenhouse members, how are we all feeling this morning?
Like I could vomit into a bag of kittens.

And you?
Me too mate, me too...
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Professor wrote:
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Hbomb wrote:Im not confident he'll get off but Im really confident me and professor and simo will get banned for life from canberra stadium after we throw the worlds most tremendous tantrum bay69 has ever seen.
I beg your pardon. I'll be banned for my tantrum in bay69 as well.
It's not looking good if he's still found guilty given the reactions of the four of us yesterday, is it.
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greeneyed wrote:Sydney lawyer Nick Ghabar will represent Jack Wighton tonight, Tim Gavel says.

Ghabar has an excellent record at the judiciary having successfully defended Justin Hodges so he could play in last year's grand final for Brisbane. He also got Josh Reynolds off a charge two years ago so he could play for New South Wales.
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T_R wrote:
simo wrote:
AJL wrote:I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
according to gal, ennis was clearly pulling out if the tackle and had no intention to make contact with green
If that's Gal's definition of pulling out, he must have 8 or 9 kids by now.
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Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
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Manbush wrote:
Professor wrote:
simo wrote:
Peter wrote:Gallen on Big Sports Breakfast now defending Ennis and ripping in to Wighton for "charging in with his shoulder and absolutely smashing Edwards, knocking him out. There was no duty of care shown by Jack. Ennis ticked 2 out of 3 of the criteria but Jack ticked all 3."

Hope Papalii hears this.
gallen was sprouting that crap on the rush hour last night. Biggest grub in the game. This is the same paul gallen whos come out and said to ban writing on armbands after one of his players used his to support a convicted killer. LETS NOT LISTEN TO HIM!
Plus he's a drug cheat - yeah, **** it, I'm going all GE on the **** now!
Go all the way mate.

Cronulla shouldn't even be able to field a team, they should've all been banned and the club closed down rabble rabble rabble :rant
Heard this on NRL360 last night. Coming from a bloke that rips stitches from someone's head.

**** off Gallen you dirty **** ****. Hope the Sharks go out in straight sets.
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T_R wrote:
simo wrote:
AJL wrote:I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
according to gal, ennis was clearly pulling out if the tackle and had no intention to make contact with green
If that's Gal's definition of pulling out, he must have 8 or 9 kids by now.
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Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote:
simo wrote:
AJL wrote:I thought Gal didn't like blokes being hit after they pass the ball...
according to gal, ennis was clearly pulling out if the tackle and had no intention to make contact with green
If that's Gal's definition of pulling out, he must have 8 or 9 kids by now.
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On Big Sports Breakfast Gallen went out of his way to describe the difference between Ennis and Wighton tackle. He said that Wighton came in basically with intent "and knocked the guy out" .. went on to say that players have a duty of care
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Btw that pic that the NRL have used to defend is absolute BS .. it is taken as Ennis is pushing away not just before the point of impact. If there was any credence to the conspiracy theory this is it.

Ennis sizes up an opponent, who has just passed the ball, showing only his shoulder. On impact his arm is tucked in without a doubt.
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You can't blame Gallen for trying anything in his power to turn the odds in their favour. I don't know that it will help them TBH. They are in horrible form at the moment. After a great patch during the middle of the season Barba looks like a rabbit in the headlights out there. Some of his defence this w/e (if you can call it that) was disgusting. He'll have nightmares of BJ running at him.

Most important that the club gets the suspension down to 1 game.
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Just watched last nights episode of NRL360 Paul Kent was blowing up delux about the wighton charge and rightfully so. He put together a very good case of why Jack should get off.
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Raidersfan wrote:Btw that pic that the NRL have used to defend is absolute BS .. it is taken as Ennis is pushing away not just before the point of impact. If there was any credence to the conspiracy theory this is it.

Ennis sizes up an opponent, who has just passed the ball, showing only his shoulder. On impact his arm is tucked in without a doubt.
Was thinking the exact same thing. Atleast they won't be able to use their Bull images tonight and reality will slap them in the face.
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