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Re: Wighton facing a four game suspension

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Justin hodges anyone? Or maybe ryan james must fight this at worst i see us getting a downgrade where jack might miss a week. Joke!
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"Not tucked" :lol:
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Northern Raider wrote:THis pic from the Raiders website clearly shows its not a shoulder charge. What was Beuttner saying about his arm being down by his side?

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And there's the defence case. By their own rules, the arm not being tucked in is sufficient for Wighton to get off.
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AJL wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:THis pic from the Raiders website clearly shows its not a shoulder charge. What was Beuttner saying about his arm being down by his side?

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And there's the defence case. By their own rules, the arm not being tucked in is sufficient for Wighton to get off.
What's his right arm doing?
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WHAT THE ****!!!!!

I cannot believe this.

If I was stick, fight the charge the whole way.

The NRL is a **** JOKE!
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Pigman wrote:
bleedgreen99 wrote:
Pigman wrote:
Raider Azz wrote:
Pigman wrote:He'll be fine

If he's charged the papers will be filled with stories of inconsistency at the MRC committee and that'll be the talk of the week. They wont be signing up for that **** show. They've gone too far down to road to walk it back now. He'll be cleared to play. Im sure of it!
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Also this is the guy who said "element of football" and let Hayne off for touching a ref as it was an "accident" which somehow doesn't come into consideration for ANY other charges...
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Our best chance is to push for a downgrade to 1 week. The other BS charge he copped against the cowboys doesnt help.
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Shezza wrote:
AJL wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:THis pic from the Raiders website clearly shows its not a shoulder charge. What was Beuttner saying about his arm being down by his side?

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And there's the defence case. By their own rules, the arm not being tucked in is sufficient for Wighton to get off.
What's his right arm doing?
Check the video. It was up as well.
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Anything is possible.

I'd say the likelihood that Greenberg or someone in the NRL being corrupted specifically to disadvantage the Canberra Raiders would be the closest decimal point to impossible without saying it's impossible.
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Northern Raider wrote:
Shezza wrote:
AJL wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:THis pic from the Raiders website clearly shows its not a shoulder charge. What was Beuttner saying about his arm being down by his side?

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And there's the defence case. By their own rules, the arm not being tucked in is sufficient for Wighton to get off.
What's his right arm doing?
Check the video. It was up as well.
Surely if we rock up showing both arms up it's not a shoulder charge and he walks. Surely???

Dreaming. They'll prob grant Jack Bird his wish and move us to Sydney as punishment for complaining.
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Beuttner being pedantic with definitions to let off Ennis and charging Jack. I'm wondering where his "element of football" explanation is that applied to this one.

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I think there is one thing we can at least all agree on - **** the match review committee
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We'll obviously be fighting it. No question. The club will be putting together our defence and getting counsel in place as we speak.

But it upsets our prep, and is a complete farce.

Not that it was smart play from Jack, but I believe pretty much 95% of the rugby league community believe he should be able to play next week. It's just unfortunate that the 5% happen to include the clowns on the match review panel.
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Shezza wrote:Surely if we rock up showing both arms up it's not a shoulder charge and he walks. Surely???

Dreaming. They'll prob grant Jack Bird his wish and move us to Sydney as punishment for complaining.
It really is that simple. The definition of the charge is not consistent with the images. Unfortunately we shouldn't hold our breath for logic to play a part in judiciary hearings.
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Pigman wrote:Anything is possible.

I'd say the likelihood that Greenberg or someone in the NRL being corrupted specifically to disadvantage the Canberra Raiders would be the closest decimal point to impossible without saying it's impossible.
In reality, yes. I don't think they're angled against the Raiders, I think they're angled towards a select few teams, at the very real detriment of others.

There's only so many times you can put these blunders down to incompetence.
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Between this and blokes wearing FKL on their arm bands, the NRL is a deadset disgrace of an organisation, now watch for the Titans to be barrowed through the finals as well, like the did with storm many moons ago, Fifa > NRL.
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Northern Raider wrote:
Shezza wrote:Surely if we rock up showing both arms up it's not a shoulder charge and he walks. Surely???

Dreaming. They'll prob grant Jack Bird his wish and move us to Sydney as punishment for complaining.
It really is that simple. The definition of the charge is not consistent with the images. Unfortunately we shouldn't hold our breath for logic to play a part in judiciary hearings.
I got a screen shot showing the right arm but can't work out how to upload it.

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Northern Raider wrote:Beuttner being pedantic with definitions to let off Ennis and charging Jack. I'm wondering where his "element of football" explanation is that applied to this one.

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My dissatisfaction with the NRL has hit an all time high.

What a **** disgrace of an organisation. I continually refer back to the Koribete incident, when discussing the farce that is, the NRL match review committee.

They wonder why people are turning off. What a **** joke.

We need to fight this with everything we have because (a) Wighton's arm is clearly open to making the tackle (b) Koribete (c) we need Jack (d) **** the MRC
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The left arm in the Wighton tackle is completely irrelevant guys because he shoulder charged him with the right shoulder ****. On that tackle alone I have no dramas with him being charged.

But **** me put it up against the Ennis charge (which was way worse he's just not as strong) and it is a **** gee up.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I actually wonder if there is more human xxxxx administering it as opposed to playing it.
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MRC are absolute **** ... this is clear from the video on Fox (use the slide bar to slow down play)

.. Wighton's leading arm is NOT tucked in ... therefore one of the parameters is **** already.
.. Wighton's left arm is pointing upwards and is on the ball / chest of Edwards indicating that he as attempting to wrap his arms ... another of the parameters ****

Fight it all the way Raiders ... lets make an example of this biased organisation !!
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Raidersfan wrote:MRC are absolute **** ... this is clear from the video on Fox (use the slide bar to slow down play)

.. Wighton's leading arm is NOT tucked in ... therefore one of the parameters is **** already.
.. Wighton's left arm is pointing upwards and is on the ball / chest of Edwards indicating that he as attempting to wrap his arms ... another of the parameters ****

Fight it all the way Raiders ... lets make an example of this biased organisation !!
The leading arm is 100% the right arm in this instance and it is definitely tucked and braced to shoulder IMO.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I've sent an email too.

Feels like I'm living in some kind of dark, parallel universe at the moment with the ticketing fiasco and now **** this.
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Northern Raider wrote:Beuttner being pedantic with definitions to let off Ennis and charging Jack. I'm wondering where his "element of football" explanation is that applied to this one.

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That's not a shoulder charge though, that's one of the top 10 plays of the week, ask the NRL, it is known...
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^^^
julian the leading arm must be tucked into his side ... it is NOT tucked into his side ... there is a definite gap between arm and his chest
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julian87 wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:MRC are absolute **** ... this is clear from the video on Fox (use the slide bar to slow down play)

.. Wighton's leading arm is NOT tucked in ... therefore one of the parameters is **** already.
.. Wighton's left arm is pointing upwards and is on the ball / chest of Edwards indicating that he as attempting to wrap his arms ... another of the parameters ****

Fight it all the way Raiders ... lets make an example of this biased organisation !!
The leading arm is 100% the right arm in this instance and it is definitely tucked and braced to shoulder IMO.
Oh, do me a favour, Julian.

Inconsistency has 100% been illustrated by the match review committee in a space of 24 hours.

Just run with that, ay, instead of being your usual contrarian self and seeking to disagree with 99% of other people.
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Upper arm tucked into his side my ****

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Is anyone posting this photographic evidence to the raiders twitter acct? We should be bombarding the club letting them know they gotta fight it.

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it looks like most of the contact is made with the arm not the shoulder.

Wighton runs in hard and makes good tackles, but if your first contact is with your arm and the most painful contact is the headbutt, it is hard to say it is a worse shoulder charge then ennis' one off the ball, especially since wightons arm isn't tucked in.
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simo wrote:Image
1. Both hands were up.
3. A head clash? :lol:


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Thanks for that pic NR

Wighton's arm hits the ball carrying arm which Edwards has extended to protect for impact. Wighton's front arm finishes on the ball/chest.
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As fans we MUST fight this and do our part for the team! Keep the emails and phone calls, shares, social media posts, and anything you can think of rolling!!!! WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS ****!!
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His leading upper arm is definitely tucked into his side.

Let's not pretend here that Wighton's doesn't deserve suspension - it does, as does Ennis'. Edwards was veering away from him and Jack was looking to poleaxe him - it's an inexusable brain snap, absolutely no doubt about that.

To me the problem here is the is the impact and post contact. We've seen this have a big influence on the descisions made by the MRC of late, and it seems to have opened a Pandora's box in terms of their consistency and rulings. Had Ennis have launched right at him and flailed his arms, he'd be in a bit of hot water as well.
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Question wrote:Between this and blokes wearing FKL on their arm bands, the NRL is a deadset disgrace of an organisation, now watch for the Titans to be barrowed through the finals as well, like the did with storm many moons ago, Fifa > NRL.
lets not forget spitting at a female bartender and being choked out by bouncers only to play that very weekend. It really is gob smacking some of the inconsistencies. That Independent commission is a complete and utter failure.
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