--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------legend wrote: Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:55 pm
You've been suspended from the front row forums indefinitely for spamming. You knew the score and continued to do the wrong thing. LU is not a vehicle for you to recruit members to this forum. Do the hard yakka yourself and earn your stripes like everyone else.
Any issues, e-mail forums@leagueunlimited.com.
Forum administrators,
I just recieved a PM informing me that I have been suspended indefintely from the Front Row forums. Ironically, the PM was sent via the very site I got pinned for spamming about. I write to inform of you at my strong objection to this suspension, particularly the fact that it's for an indefinite period of time. I have made a total of 3,181 posts at League Unlimited since July 2004, at 11.83 per day, participate in the Forum 7's competition, which I think I can say without arrogance that I have been quite successful in. These points noted, I think I have reason to consider myself a valued poster at the Front Row Forums. In the PM I received, legend said "Do the hard yakka yourself and earn your stripes like everyone else." Well, to be quite honest, I think i have earnt my stripes, I have contributed a lot to the forums over the past 10 months, particularly the Canberra Raiders forum.
The reason given for my suspension was that I was "spamming", legend adding that "You knew the score and continued to do the wrong thing. LU is not a vehicle for you to recruit members to this forum." Whilst I admit to "knowing the score", and I certainly knew that I was doing, I would like to put forward my side of the case: I had been posting at both the Greenhouse and League Unlimited, none any more than the other, and as is normal when both deal with the same topic, sometimes the other forum would come up in conversation, usually something like "At League Unlimited someone posted this, etc". I'll be honest, I was fed up at the seemingly high level of immaturity shown by the people at LU for refusing to allow it's posters to acknowledge the existence of another forum. The Greenhouse often mentions League Unlimited, particularly seeing as though its administrator is captain of the Raiders Forum 7's team.
My mentioning of the Greenhouse at LU was not a piece of spamming, but an expression of frustration, perhaps even an act of revolt, that such a closely related website was not allowed to be mentioned in any post. There are a number of posts still up at the Canberra Raiders forum where in normal situations the Greenhouse would have been mentioned in passing, not as an act of spamming but necessity, and instead it had to be vaguely alluded to due to fear of suspension for mentioning it. I agree that the two forums got off on a bad foot, but it's a few months on, and just about all active members of the Greennhouse are also regular posters at LU, besides of course fellow suspendees.
My claim is that I did not engage in spamming, but rather mentioned the Greenhouse in a neutral fashion as a natural response. I have done the same thing regarding League Unlimited on the Greenhouse on a number of occasions, and there was never a question raised as to whether I was "spamming", or using the Greenhouse to recruit members for LU. This to me is the sensible way to run a forum.
I would appreciate a reply to this email which points directly to the post, or posts, that got me suspended, as well as a notification of the length of my suspension, in order to keep me from being stuck in limbo as I am now. A poster of my reputation and history of posting does not deserve to be caught in such a state of affairs.
Yours sincerely,
Kristopher Karp, aka Kris_man.
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I'm not gonna write any more, 'cos I just spent 45 minutes writing that, and it sums up my reaction to the suspension.
I apologise to Raider_69 for letting the Forum 7's team down. Feel free to post the article I wrote under someone else's ID (although given the reaction to the article, I'm not expexting that to happen )