Official Breaking News: Henry released at end of '08 season
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There's a fair few coaching options out there but I like the idea of Johnny Lang. He's good with a young squad and has achieved early results with both Cronulla and Penrith. We can't afford to keep rebuilding and I think this guy could get us up the ladder earlier. Just my thoughts.
Not happy Neil. I hope failure haunts your coaching career until you're forced to coach in the Northern Territory pub league.
Not happy Neil. I hope failure haunts your coaching career until you're forced to coach in the Northern Territory pub league.
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I'll back Furner, he will be as accountable as any other coach and he bleeds green..... plus he has worked with the current roster and structure, a new coach be basically have to start again, at least Furner can pick up from where Henry (F**WITT) has left off....
Only other coaches I;d be happy with are Bellamy, Stuart or Daley.. (all ex Raiders)
I'll back Furner, he will be as accountable as any other coach and he bleeds green..... plus he has worked with the current roster and structure, a new coach be basically have to start again, at least Furner can pick up from where Henry (F**WITT) has left off....
Only other coaches I;d be happy with are Bellamy, Stuart or Daley.. (all ex Raiders)
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ps. IMO, Dave Furner should take over as of tomorrow, and give himself the oppurtunity to prove himself. In the mean time, HQ vigorously recruit the man to take us to premiership glory.
IMO we need a coach, along the lines of Bellamy, Stuart, Fittler et al who players WANT to play under. Rest assured, we have the financial clout to pay the right coach adequately.
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IMO we need a coach, along the lines of Bellamy, Stuart, Fittler et al who players WANT to play under. Rest assured, we have the financial clout to pay the right coach adequately.
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Things change mox....Lime Green wrote:Yeah just like he was "very confident" Henry was going to re-sign until 2011.VictorTheViking wrote:I think KW knows something we dont, not even he could be this relaxed at a time like this if he didnt (or I could just be deliriously angry....)
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Couldn't agree more.KW wrote:ps. IMO, Dave Furner should take over as of tomorrow, and give himself the oppurtunity to prove himself. In the mean time, HQ vigorously recruit the man to take us to premiership glory.
IMO we need a coach, along the lines of Bellamy, Stuart, Fittler et al who players WANT to play under.
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How long has Brown had the job, Doust is staying as far as i know,edwahu wrote:If he was really terrible the board would just sack him and Don Furner jr.raidersforme wrote:If Furner is appointed i will stop supporting a team i have for 24 years, Why because once he has top job, he will never leave or be sacked no matter how bad he is coaching, our recruitment will go backwards and retention will go out the door.Mick wrote:Thats is an absolute f**king disgrace. 99% of us disapproved of Elliot but our support of the team never wavered. We could sign Osama Bin Laden as coach and I'd still support them.Sossman wrote:**comment retracted**.
If he is given reins this year and proves himself then thats ok, or if he goes elsewhere and proves himself again ok, But getting free reign and will never be sacked thats not ok. I don't want another 10 years of just going ok, I want results.
I really hope they get the best man not the inside man, if Furner is the only one we can get, or is the best qualified then yes, otherwise i don't want to be the same as the dragons with Oust Doust and Down Brown Campaigns
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Not so long ago a lot of poeple on this site beleived we had the greatest board in the nrl with the carney signing.before he re-signed they coped a lot of flack on here.Just a thought how about we see what there next move is before we call for heads to role on the coaching situation.
I beleive they made the right move in releasing him.If furner is signed up how about give him a chance before we give up.As for bennett he has stated his desire to move to sydney,sorry guys but canberra is not sydney.We wont get a high profile coach we never do.we will get a new nrl coach and we may end up with the same problem again,sadly IMO
I beleive they made the right move in releasing him.If furner is signed up how about give him a chance before we give up.As for bennett he has stated his desire to move to sydney,sorry guys but canberra is not sydney.We wont get a high profile coach we never do.we will get a new nrl coach and we may end up with the same problem again,sadly IMO
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Exactly and KW i hope your dropping those names for a reasonLime Green wrote:Couldn't agree more.KW wrote:ps. IMO, Dave Furner should take over as of tomorrow, and give himself the oppurtunity to prove himself. In the mean time, HQ vigorously recruit the man to take us to premiership glory.
IMO we need a coach, along the lines of Bellamy, Stuart, Fittler et al who players WANT to play under.
KW
i wonder weather you look as good in a whipped cream bikini as the the bird who said that did...KW wrote:Things change mox....Lime Green wrote:Yeah just like he was "very confident" Henry was going to re-sign until 2011.VictorTheViking wrote:I think KW knows something we dont, not even he could be this relaxed at a time like this if he didnt (or I could just be deliriously angry....)
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anyways furner definitely needs to be given a chance, its worth noting i think Furner if not up to scratch would quit. He has passion for this club, he loves canberra, and he if was not doing a good job, i dont think he'd need to be sacked, he'd quit
but thats a risky option
KW is on the money, furner needs to take the reigns asap and show us what he's got whilst the club searches for its next coach, if results are good, that may well be furner
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I'm not too disappointed.
Henry is by far the most talked up coach around with zero results to his name. The difference between him and Elliot is they've got different favourites and from all reports the players actually liked and responded to Elliot (Just look at our results and Elliot's willingness to keep Howell, Bulgarelli, Gafa, Drew, Tyran Smith and Kahler yet we perenially made the finals bar one).
In saying all that our next step is Dave Furner ****. The Stuart and Bellamy bridges have been burnt already..... Daley S.O.S
Henry is by far the most talked up coach around with zero results to his name. The difference between him and Elliot is they've got different favourites and from all reports the players actually liked and responded to Elliot (Just look at our results and Elliot's willingness to keep Howell, Bulgarelli, Gafa, Drew, Tyran Smith and Kahler yet we perenially made the finals bar one).
In saying all that our next step is Dave Furner ****. The Stuart and Bellamy bridges have been burnt already..... Daley S.O.S
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Im not against Furner coaching at all.
He's been successfull coaching premier league, as a player he was amazing!! The players all like him and he's not going to run off to sign with another club.
I cant see any reason not to give him a crack.
Also, for those who say they're going to stop supporting the team if Furner is appointed, take a few deep breaths and sort your lives out.... fairweather fans are the worst.
He's been successfull coaching premier league, as a player he was amazing!! The players all like him and he's not going to run off to sign with another club.
I cant see any reason not to give him a crack.
Also, for those who say they're going to stop supporting the team if Furner is appointed, take a few deep breaths and sort your lives out.... fairweather fans are the worst.
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Some of my thoughts on this.
1. Its disappointing. I thought Neil Henry offers plenty as a coach.
2. Its not the end of the world.
3. Neil did what most of us would do ... look after his own best interests
4. Yes he was under contract, but contracts always have out clauses and are always negotiable. Negotiating changes to contracts happens every day.
5. He was in a difficult position being asked to confirm or deny reports of going or staying. Either would undermine his negotiating position.
6. As for discussions with Todd Carney and others about seeing out his contract, his decision doesn't mean he was lying - maybe that was his intention and the time and things changed later to make him decide to move on. It happens - people waver on decisions all the time.
7. He should stay on for the rest of the year. I'm confident he's thoroughly professional and will give it his best. Plus I'm sure there is plenty he can still give to Dave Furner and the players. (Having said that, I do think Furner taking a more prominent, co-coaching role would be a good move).
8. If Neil or the players drop their bundle over this, they need to be told to grow up, get on with footy and if they can't deal with that they are clearly not professional enough for NRL football and should be pissed off out of it.
1. Its disappointing. I thought Neil Henry offers plenty as a coach.
2. Its not the end of the world.
3. Neil did what most of us would do ... look after his own best interests
4. Yes he was under contract, but contracts always have out clauses and are always negotiable. Negotiating changes to contracts happens every day.
5. He was in a difficult position being asked to confirm or deny reports of going or staying. Either would undermine his negotiating position.
6. As for discussions with Todd Carney and others about seeing out his contract, his decision doesn't mean he was lying - maybe that was his intention and the time and things changed later to make him decide to move on. It happens - people waver on decisions all the time.
7. He should stay on for the rest of the year. I'm confident he's thoroughly professional and will give it his best. Plus I'm sure there is plenty he can still give to Dave Furner and the players. (Having said that, I do think Furner taking a more prominent, co-coaching role would be a good move).
8. If Neil or the players drop their bundle over this, they need to be told to grow up, get on with footy and if they can't deal with that they are clearly not professional enough for NRL football and should be pissed off out of it.
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David Furner likely new Raiders coach
Canberra chairman John McIntyre anointed former Test backrower David Furner as the next Raiders coach after the NRL club granted current mentor Neil Henry an early release.
The coaching jigsaw puzzle started taking shape with Henry released from the final year of his contract in 2009, a move which frees him to return to North Queensland next season.
The Cowboys denied Henry was a lock to succeed Graham Murray, but McIntyre said the Raiders job was Furner's for the taking.
"David Furner will take over, certainly at least as interim coach," McIntyre said.
"Neil's staying until the end of the year, David's his assistant coach and he's the logical choice to step up.
"I don't consider it to even be a punt.
"A couple of years ago when I got wind that David had finished his playing career with Leeds and I just said to the (Raiders) management `David's on his way home, find him a job.'
"In terms of bloodlines in coaching, his father (Don Furner) was an Australian coach so you could liken him to one of the Danehills."
McIntyre said he would expect Furner to become more hands on for the remainder of this season as Henry gradually handed over the reins.
Furner had a stellar playing career with the Raiders, playing 200 top grade games. He is still the club's leading pointscorer with 1218 points in the lime green.
After a stint in the English Super League, Furner returned to the nation's capital where he was installed as assistant coach in 2006, with McIntyre claiming Furner's ascension to the top job was only a matter of time.
"When (Matthew) Elliott went to Penrith I talked about David taking on the (Raiders head coaching) job then," McIntyre said.
"He very honestly said he wasn't ready to take the job on yet. I'm as certain as I can be that he's ready now.
"He's going to be hands on for a fair part of the season while Neil's away with State of Origin anyway."
Cowboys boss Peter Parr said while the club was interested in talking to Henry, no deal was currently in place.
"I haven't said to him that if you exit your contract with Canberra you've got the job here," Parr said.
"I've told him we'd be willing to discuss it with him."
The Raiders originally said they would not be releasing Henry from the final year of his three-year contract, but relented when they realised Henry's heart was elsewhere.
Henry had four years as an assistant at the Cowboys and is a longtime friend of Parr and North Queensland football manager Dean Lance.
"The board agreed not to stand in Neil's way and decided he would remain coach of the club until the end of the 2008 season," Raiders chief executive Don Furner said.
"Neil has agreed to see out the rest of the season and will remain head coach of the Raiders until October 31 this year."
Henry yesterday denied he would be seeking an immediate release, but the situation came to a head after a weekend news report claimed he was keen to accept a five-year deal tabled by the Cowboys.
"This has been the most difficult decision I have (had) to make," said Henry, who had been contracted through to the end of 2009.
"I am grateful for the opportunity that the club has given me, I'm relieved the decision is out of the road, and we're now focused on beating the Titans this weekend."
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David Furner likely new Raiders coach
Canberra chairman John McIntyre anointed former Test backrower David Furner as the next Raiders coach after the NRL club granted current mentor Neil Henry an early release.
The coaching jigsaw puzzle started taking shape with Henry released from the final year of his contract in 2009, a move which frees him to return to North Queensland next season.
The Cowboys denied Henry was a lock to succeed Graham Murray, but McIntyre said the Raiders job was Furner's for the taking.
"David Furner will take over, certainly at least as interim coach," McIntyre said.
"Neil's staying until the end of the year, David's his assistant coach and he's the logical choice to step up.
"I don't consider it to even be a punt.
"A couple of years ago when I got wind that David had finished his playing career with Leeds and I just said to the (Raiders) management `David's on his way home, find him a job.'
"In terms of bloodlines in coaching, his father (Don Furner) was an Australian coach so you could liken him to one of the Danehills."
McIntyre said he would expect Furner to become more hands on for the remainder of this season as Henry gradually handed over the reins.
Furner had a stellar playing career with the Raiders, playing 200 top grade games. He is still the club's leading pointscorer with 1218 points in the lime green.
After a stint in the English Super League, Furner returned to the nation's capital where he was installed as assistant coach in 2006, with McIntyre claiming Furner's ascension to the top job was only a matter of time.
"When (Matthew) Elliott went to Penrith I talked about David taking on the (Raiders head coaching) job then," McIntyre said.
"He very honestly said he wasn't ready to take the job on yet. I'm as certain as I can be that he's ready now.
"He's going to be hands on for a fair part of the season while Neil's away with State of Origin anyway."
Cowboys boss Peter Parr said while the club was interested in talking to Henry, no deal was currently in place.
"I haven't said to him that if you exit your contract with Canberra you've got the job here," Parr said.
"I've told him we'd be willing to discuss it with him."
The Raiders originally said they would not be releasing Henry from the final year of his three-year contract, but relented when they realised Henry's heart was elsewhere.
Henry had four years as an assistant at the Cowboys and is a longtime friend of Parr and North Queensland football manager Dean Lance.
"The board agreed not to stand in Neil's way and decided he would remain coach of the club until the end of the 2008 season," Raiders chief executive Don Furner said.
"Neil has agreed to see out the rest of the season and will remain head coach of the Raiders until October 31 this year."
Henry yesterday denied he would be seeking an immediate release, but the situation came to a head after a weekend news report claimed he was keen to accept a five-year deal tabled by the Cowboys.
"This has been the most difficult decision I have (had) to make," said Henry, who had been contracted through to the end of 2009.
"I am grateful for the opportunity that the club has given me, I'm relieved the decision is out of the road, and we're now focused on beating the Titans this weekend."
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ive had the same thoughts on waye bennett, in regard to him preferring to be out of the spotlight. if he went to a sydney club he'd always have a camera on him, he'd always be under praise or scrutiny.. in canberra he could make a real difference. id like to see what he could get out of our squad, the man knows his ****. and he is a coach with real drawing power. every player in the nrl knows he is a great coach.
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**** sack neil right away! what a ****, how dare he do that to us!! **** i hate it when they say one thing and to the other! put furner in charge for the rest of the season. At least his heart bleeds green. i dont want neil anywhere near the raiders, his heart isnt even with the raiders and never has been..HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE FAITH IN THE PLAYERS! he can start packing his bags right now and leave to nth qld right now as far as im concerned! **** YOU NEIL! I have lost all respect for you.
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Sorry... how has Henry not "reneged on his deal"????!!!! He asked for a release from the contract!!! Of course he has reneged on the deal. The Raiders management handled it badly, but probably in the end had not much choice.edwahu wrote:He got offered a deal that was too good to refuse. Our management did the right thing and made a judgement on whether he was worth that to us. They have made the choice to release him, Henry has not reneged on his deal. It's disappointing because it probably damages our chances this year but I cant be critical of anyone over this.
The only thing I want to see is management go out and seek the best candidate for the job. Furner should have to apply and get selected on merit.
**** this is depressing..everytime the raiders get a win something bad happens..we get a win against penriff, we lose zillman for the season; we get a win against the dragons; we lose phil graham (for the season??) AND lose neil henry! what are your predictions of more drama/disapointments for our next win???
I wonder how Mal has taken the news that Neil Henry has decided to walk away from a signed contract. Mal was always a man of his word. I reckon privately, he would take a dim view of it. He may start looking for a new Queensland assistant coach. One who's word can be believed.
I think David Furner should not only take the reins, he should be free of the last jockey as well. You can't have two jockey's on a horse and win. It's time for management to make a firm decision and have a single head coach who really wants to be in the role. That means Neil Henry
I think David Furner should not only take the reins, he should be free of the last jockey as well. You can't have two jockey's on a horse and win. It's time for management to make a firm decision and have a single head coach who really wants to be in the role. That means Neil Henry