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Not sure about the Hodgson swap. Everyone thought Rapana was finished but he had a pretty solid season. Hodgsons season was beset by injury, an out of form forward pack and being played out of position. He’s only 31 and probably has another 2-3 good years ahead of him, maybe more, since speed and athleticism is not his hallmark.

I like Starling but I’m not sure he’s an 80 minute player. He has no football IQ. If you gain Fogarty’s brain but lose Hodgsons brain it’s kinda zero sum.
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Not sure about the Hodgson swap. Everyone thought Rapana was finished but he had a pretty solid season. Hodgsons season was beset by injury, an out of form forward pack and being played out of position. He’s only 31 and probably has another 2-3 good years ahead of him, maybe more, since speed and athleticism is not his hallmark.

I like Starling but I’m not sure he’s an 80 minute player. He has no football IQ. If you gain Fogarty’s brain but lose Hodgsons brain it’s kinda zero sum.
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rayden83 wrote: September 23, 2021, 8:50 pm Not sure about the Hodgson swap. Everyone thought Rapana was finished but he had a pretty solid season. Hodgsons season was beset by injury, an out of form forward pack and being played out of position. He’s only 31 and probably has another 2-3 good years ahead of him, maybe more, since speed and athleticism is not his hallmark.

I like Starling but I’m not sure he’s an 80 minute player. He has no football IQ. If you gain Fogarty’s brain but lose Hodgsons brain it’s kinda zero sum.
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How on Earth would a Fogarty/Hodgson swap work with such a salary disparity. We are expected to swap the two players and pay for the privilege???? That would be beyond dumb.
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Wiki Special wrote: September 23, 2021, 9:28 pm How on Earth would a Fogarty/Hodgson swap work with such a salary disparity. We are expected to swap the two players and pay for the privilege???? That would be beyond dumb.
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Canberra Milk wrote: September 23, 2021, 8:53 pm
rayden83 wrote: September 23, 2021, 8:50 pm Not sure about the Hodgson swap. Everyone thought Rapana was finished but he had a pretty solid season. Hodgsons season was beset by injury, an out of form forward pack and being played out of position. He’s only 31 and probably has another 2-3 good years ahead of him, maybe more, since speed and athleticism is not his hallmark.

I like Starling but I’m not sure he’s an 80 minute player. He has no football IQ. If you gain Fogarty’s brain but lose Hodgsons brain it’s kinda zero sum.
That's why we should have kept Havili
Nah. Game is too fast for him.
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The Canberra Times suggesting that if Ash Taylor is signed by the Warriors, that might shake loose Chanel Harris Tavita... or alternatively Kodi Nikorima, who is reportedly keen on an Australian club: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Nikorima better stats than CHT and similar to Fogarty.
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One feels CHT has far more upside than Nikorima if he can stay fit
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greeneyed wrote:The Canberra Times suggesting that if Ash Taylor is signed by the Warriors, that might shake loose Chanel Harris Tavita... or alternatively Kodi Nikorima, who is reportedly keen on an Australian club: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Nikorima better stats than CHT and similar to Fogarty.
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The folks on the Titans forum want Starling in a swap, not Hodgson.

http://www.leagueoftitans.com.au/showth ... post421841

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I still can't believe there are people who want to be rid of hodgson when we haven't got anything remotely close to a good game manager....

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VictorTheViking wrote: September 23, 2021, 10:18 pm I still can't believe there are people who want to be rid of hodgson when we haven't got anything remotely close to a good game manager....

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Canberra Milk wrote:
VictorTheViking wrote: September 23, 2021, 10:18 pm I still can't believe there are people who want to be rid of hodgson when we haven't got anything remotely close to a good game manager....

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I can't believe there are still people who think Hodgson is a game manager
So who are our other (current) options as game managers? Wighton, Williams/Frawley or ...
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Coastalraider wrote:
Matt wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:56 pm
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:22 pm
Timbo wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:15 pm Imagine being offered double your current salary and the first crack at the #7 in first grade but your current club refusing and then sending you off to play in front of ten people at Pizzey Park.

You’d burn the place to the ground.
I’m admittedly probably the most pro player poster on this site when it comes to these things
But this is why it’s foregone conclusion if those facts are correct, there isn’t a player on that titans roster who won’t empathise with that situation and be furious at the club denying him this opportunity financially and professionally

I’d be furious if our club denied a back up the opportunity to earn double their income and get a genuine Fg opportunity.
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Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
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Botman wrote:It's absolutely appalling that they've let him on TV for this long
Amazing what Qlders are willing to accept
We have the internet in Queensland now, so no need to watch.
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afgtnk wrote:
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
And yet he has played more final games than old mate. I love it how there are concerns with the amount of first grade experience this bloke has when theres this other bloke from the storm, who isn't a half back and has less first grade experience, and yet people were prepared to throw him 700k! Put me down for a Jamal thank you

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FROG wrote: September 24, 2021, 5:55 am
afgtnk wrote:
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
And yet he has played more final games than old mate. I love it how there are concerns with the amount of first grade experience this bloke has when theres this other bloke from the storm, who isn't a half back and has less first grade experience, and yet people were prepared to throw him 700k! Put me down for a Jamal thank you

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Id have been very happy with Hynes, but Jamal is a more proven commodity in the position. Im excited by this potential pickup though
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afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 11:50 pm
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
Serious question: are you related to Luke Brooks in any way? Are you his manager?
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Colk wrote: September 24, 2021, 8:09 am
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 11:50 pm
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
Serious question: are you related to Luke Brooks in any way? Are you his manager?
Colk ajsfndjksfndsaj has a very long and storied relationship with the Raiders halfback situation.

He isn't Brooks' manager but once he plants his flag in the ground on a player no amount of empirical evidence, data or otherwise will deter him from the course he has charted.

The relationship dates back to the Aiden Sezer days where the flag was planted over the fact he was the worst halfback that had ever donned a rugby league jersey.

Since then we have had:

Sam Williams apologism;
Matt Frawley death riding;
Luke Brooks support;

And now the most recent iteration - Jamal Fogarty is Aiden Sezer mk II (i.e the second worst halfback that has ever donned a jersey).

It is certainly quite weird.
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I would happily swap Hodgson for Fogarty, hell I would swap him for Brooks. Might be harsh but I don't think Hodgson offers much anymore, he may bounce back and have another 1 of 2 good seasons ala Rapana but he has been very poor over the last 2 years IMO. His service is sloppy, he gives away silly penalties, his sometimes unexpected early tackle kicks, he rushes up in defence all the time and misses his man because he can't move sideways. Does more bad that good imo
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RichmondRaider wrote: September 23, 2021, 9:44 pm
greeneyed wrote:The Canberra Times suggesting that if Ash Taylor is signed by the Warriors, that might shake loose Chanel Harris Tavita... or alternatively Kodi Nikorima, who is reportedly keen on an Australian club: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Nikorima better stats than CHT and similar to Fogarty.
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Can certainly throw a decent forward pass.....
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Nikorima had perfectly suited conditions for him that game- an early round game vs a team who suffered a whopping injury count meaning the big men all had to play way too many minutes + some outside back reshuffling. I knew he'd kill us in the final 10-15.

But it's not often he gets all the odds stacked in his favour like that. I'd prefer Fogarty to partner with Jack. I'd prefer Nikorima if we didn't have Jack.
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We proved in 2020 that we can do just fine without Hodgson.
He spat the dummy and gave up the captaincy can’t see him staying on. Time to move on as good as he has been for us.


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Mickey_Raider wrote: September 24, 2021, 9:06 am
Colk wrote: September 24, 2021, 8:09 am
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 11:50 pm
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm

What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
Serious question: are you related to Luke Brooks in any way? Are you his manager?
Colk ajsfndjksfndsaj has a very long and storied relationship with the Raiders halfback situation.

He isn't Brooks' manager but once he plants his flag in the ground on a player no amount of empirical evidence, data or otherwise will deter him from the course he has charted.

The relationship dates back to the Aiden Sezer days where the flag was planted over the fact he was the worst halfback that had ever donned a rugby league jersey.

Since then we have had:

Sam Williams apologism;
Matt Frawley death riding;
Luke Brooks support;

And now the most recent iteration - Jamal Fogarty is Aiden Sezer mk II (i.e the second worst halfback that has ever donned a jersey).

It is certainly quite weird.
What a truly bizarre post. You could almost have been crying as you've written it.

No empirical evidence and data will 'deter me from the course I've charted'? Actually, I rely heavily on evidence long term and getting a deeper understanding... hence why I don't often have to sway from my path.

Only thing weird here is completely jumping the gun and resorting to make blatantly making stuff up here to try and get something over someone. 'Death riding Matt Frawley' Huh?. 'Jamal Fogarty is Sezer mk II'. Lol. The ****?
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FROG wrote: September 24, 2021, 5:55 am
afgtnk wrote:
Botman wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:25 pm
Raider47 wrote: September 23, 2021, 6:14 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 23, 2021, 5:29 pmUgh.
What?
The Luke Brooks dream might be coming to an end
And the unwanted, ordinary 28 year old with 40 games under his belt reality just beginning
And yet he has played more final games than old mate. I love it how there are concerns with the amount of first grade experience this bloke has when theres this other bloke from the storm, who isn't a half back and has less first grade experience, and yet people were prepared to throw him 700k! Put me down for a Jamal thank you

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You mean his team limped into the finals as one of the weakest contenders ever, and got booted out first go.

Not sure that's something to hang a hat on if I'm being honest.
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I call Bull on the club putting Hodgo forward as a player swap.

On one hand they have a halfback who they plan on playing in reserve grade, earning significantly under the NRL average, while we have an international 9 who arguably is a significantly better player than Fogarty.

Why would we need to do a player swap to pry a reserve grader out of the Titans. Seriously? Surely the club wouldn't do that.



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Seiffert82 wrote:I call Bull on the club putting Hodgo forward as a player swap.

On one hand they have a halfback who they plan on playing in reserve grade, earning significantly under the NRL average, while we have an international 9 who arguably is a significantly better player than Fogarty.

Why would we need to do a player swap to pry a reserve grader out of the Titans. Seriously? Surely the club wouldn't do that.



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Seiffert82 wrote: September 24, 2021, 9:05 pm I call Bull on the club putting Hodgo forward as a player swap.

On one hand they have a halfback who they plan on playing in reserve grade, earning significantly under the NRL average, while we have an international 9 who arguably is a significantly better player than Fogarty.

Why would we need to do a player swap to pry a reserve grader out of the Titans. Seriously? Surely the club wouldn't do that.

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No one has said the club has put that forward. It has been put forward by a journalist/commentator.
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So what's the story. Officially knocked back?
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Hodgo in a swap deal would pretty much fix our attack for 2022.
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I’d drive Hodgo to the GC myself (well, to Tweed Heads under the current border rules) in order to make it happen. Let’s get it done
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Mickey_Raider wrote: Since then we have had:

Sam Williams apologism;
Matt Frawley death riding;
Luke Brooks support;

And now the most recent iteration - Jamal Fogarty is Aiden Sezer mk II (i.e the second worst halfback that has ever donned a jersey).

It is certainly quite weird.
How can you write a post like this and not include CNK deathriding?
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greeneyed wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote: September 24, 2021, 9:05 pm I call Bull on the club putting Hodgo forward as a player swap.

On one hand they have a halfback who they plan on playing in reserve grade, earning significantly under the NRL average, while we have an international 9 who arguably is a significantly better player than Fogarty.

Why would we need to do a player swap to pry a reserve grader out of the Titans. Seriously? Surely the club wouldn't do that.

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No one has said the club has put that forward. It has been put forward by a journalist/commentator.
And I'm calling Bull on that claim by the journo. There is no reason the club would need to do that.

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